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loquacius posted:You can't really trace that to the House leadership either. Her job is to keep Democratic congressmen who have already been elected in line and make them vote for things, or not, as necessary. She has no connection to Presidential elections other than that she's a prominent enough name that Republicans hate her, which is true for any Democrat whose name they know. Replacing her wouldn't really accomplish anything beyond a symbolic protest. Burn it all down 
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It wasn't Marie Antoniette's fault how Versailles was run either, but Trump won on the rejection of political elites.
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nobody went to the voting booth going "fuckers have pelosi, gonna vote republican to spite them"
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logikv9 posted:nobody went to the voting booth going "fuckers have pelosi, gonna vote republican to spite them" This. I hate Ted Cruz but he's not why I voted against Trump. The existence of Nancy Pelosi isn't something independents care about. Republicans do, but we've seen what happens when we try to cater to Republicans.
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logikv9 posted:shooting yourself in the hand because your legs couldn't finish the marathon lol thats quite the analogy
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Schnorkles posted:Burn it all down this but ?unironically? 
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Al! posted:this but ?unironically? Burn it all down 
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mugrim posted:I saw Chuck Todd last night literally asking "If Trump says things we know to be untrue, should we report it at all? How can you cover something that's not true but also be a good journalist by telling people exactly what the president says? Newscasters can't just say the president is lying that'd be editorializing". god there is nothing i hate more than the "he said/she said" type of reporting, its why i cant stand 90 percent of big media news. i dont want news to just regurgitate what all the official positions are, i want them to contextualize it with facts and whats true and what isnt
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Stexils posted:god there is nothing i hate more than the "he said/she said" type of reporting, its why i cant stand 90 percent of big media news. i dont want news to just regurgitate what all the official positions are, i want them to contextualize it with facts and whats true and what isnt even if you do the he said/she said style, they're too chickenshit to ask good followup questions most of the time because ~access~
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I'm glad Hillary managed to escape from her new sylvan hideout to perform an important task in our political struggle: giving a prize to a pop singer.
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Golden Bee posted:So what would be the criteria for firing leadership, if "losing the last two cycles" isn't enough? You're going after the wrong person. Pelosi isn't the problem.
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Joementum posted:I'm glad Hillary managed to escape from her new sylvan hideout to perform an important task in our political struggle: giving a prize to a pop singer. Sybian?
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This is my fight song Hide from sight song All alone hike song
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logikv9 posted:pelosi and reid were the best They're a pair of cocksuckers in the land of cocksuckers and cockroaches. I was sad to see Reid go, especially because he was replaced with Schumer. My best memory of him is him getting a note that Obama capitulated to the GOP on the expiring Bush tax cuts and he responded by throwing it into a fire. I'm split on Pelosi. She handled her situation as well as could be expected and I always saw her pushing the party as left as possible, but neither she nor Reid could counter Obama being a dumpy coward so I don't blame her for the overall Democratic failure. But at the same time the need for fresh blood is critical for the Democratic party to endure. I've read that she's focusing on grooming a relatively large batch of 30 year olds for leadership positions in the House leadership. So long as she is taking the steps necessary to ensure a stable future leaders in the party while fighting for 'progressive' policies I'm fine with her staying in charge. Besides, it always seems to be some blue balled blue dog that seems to challenge her for the leadership. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IshiClQqCM Uncle Tom slur aside, Nader pretty much called it. Obama shucked the nation and the Democratic party to make himself popular and it resulted in the election of Dorbald Tormp. Nice. Edit:  I just rewatched it. At the very end Shep asks him if regrets using that word and Nader's eye brow arcs up and he responds smugly: "Not at all".
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Stexils posted:god there is nothing i hate more than the "he said/she said" type of reporting, its why i cant stand 90 percent of big media news. i dont want news to just regurgitate what all the official positions are, i want them to contextualize it with facts and whats true and what isnt Can't do that because then I can't report it as it happens and you cant fill the whole 24 hour with all the bs trimmed, hence why CNN and msnbc are choking on DT tweets
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Baloogan posted:Sybian? No sylvan, as in Pennsylvania.
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best harry reid moment was when he strolled in fresh from a good night's sleep to torpedo cruz's plan to whine about being removed from the floor when he did his stupid fauxbuster
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loquacius posted:I am astounded at how right he consistently managed to be in the face of apocalyptically bad posters arguing from a position of relative strength Didn't he vote for stein? Let's not give too much credit
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I still think his best moment was when they had to physically restrain him from beating the hell out of the dude who tried to bribe him.
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Al! posted:this but ?unironically? nite crew entering the final stage... accelerationism
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All this new blood poo poo reminds me of people angry at their sports team only to let them do their thing and find out that that works. Pelosi is great chill out
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reid also didn't do jack poo poo to lieberman when he hosed up healthcare reform so let's not tug his pud too much
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Just saw the thread title change and boy do I have something to say about Wisconsin supper clubs. Elias Inn sucks now but it didn't 10 years ago. Oh well. Silvercrest is the best. Great pizza too.
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Harry Reid's best moment was when he told Obama his grand bargain idea was a piece of poo poo.
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Rastor posted:No sylvan, as in Pennsylvania. Of course all the best magic cards are related to the best state, suckers
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Rastor posted:No sylvan, as in Pennsylvania. bijzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Hot take: I was thinking about O Brother Where Art Thou some more and a metaphor where Clinton is Pappy O'Daniel and Trump is Homer Stokes is actually surprisingly apt see: Pappy angrily refusing to talk to voters because his radio-only strategy means he doesn't have to; Pappy struggling with being painted as a puppet of The Interests and not knowing how to counter that; Stokes being a literal Klan leader Clearly if we had managed to provoke Trump into interrupting a Tim McGraw concert or something at the 11th hour to talk about how he wants to shut down the music and arrest McGraw, everything would have turned out ok
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Karl Barks posted:nite crew entering the final stage... accelerationism i remember there was a point where it almost looked like there would be an indictment and i was excited i would no longer have to pretend to like hillary clinton..... but i didn't get my first choice so now i'm workin on my REAL first choice!!!!!
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guys have you considered that maybe the democrats need to move.... right?????? http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/30/opinion/can-the-democrats-move-right.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/
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Karl Barks posted:nite crew entering the first and only stage... ftfy 
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big black turnout posted:guys have you considered that maybe the democrats need to move.... right?????? What if we weren't racist enough? *puffs pipe*
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big black turnout posted:guys have you considered that maybe the democrats need to move.... right?????? more like Ross Douchehat
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big black turnout posted:guys have you considered that maybe the democrats need to move.... right??????
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Why isn't there a coen brothers megathread, I want to shitpost about my OBWAT theory some morebig black turnout posted:guys have you considered that maybe the democrats need to move.... right?????? this guy is stupid and he has a stupid face and I want to punch it
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Veskit posted:All this new blood poo poo reminds me of people angry at their sports team only to let them do their thing and find out that that works. Pelosi is great chill out Pelosi is good but the leadership roster of House dems is simply too old. They're all over 70, aren't they? Obama had a selling point of being young and, for that matter, so does Little Marco. Youth is a quantifiable asset in politics and should be used to its full effect. This isn't anything that Pelosi herself hasn't realized. big black turnout posted:guys have you considered that maybe the democrats need to move.... right?????? gently caress fighting gun rights, everything else gets pushed left by about fifty years. Also Democrats should shut up about SJ stuff and just cement non discrimination into their policies, only talking about it when it's brought up or is a particularly effective attack.
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big black turnout posted:guys have you considered that maybe the democrats need to move.... right?????? lol wowzers but thats what we did or attempted with hillary 
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No, but you see, if the Democrats move rightward, the Republicans will usher in Full Communism Now out of spite!
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"If the Democratic party moves rightward, corporate interests can ensure a friendly government by making the American people choose between that or an insane fascist dictator, every four years until the end of time!" "What if playing chicken backfires on us and we end up with the insane dictator instead?" "It's fine, we'll infiltrate his government too so there's no harm done, to anyone I care about anyway." "What about the left?" "The left will vote however we want them to if the fascist is insane enough." "What if they don't?" "What, do they want the fascist to win? I think we know who the real fascists are."
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