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logikv9 posted:completely unfair that the government has to decide whether a drug is "safe" or "effective", time to let the free market sort that out by gutting the fda too from someone who works in biotech: FDA regs will probably not go anywhere because they ensure that the only people who can afford to actually bring a product to market are a handful of major organizations. Quality right now is crazy onerous and probably should be streamlined but it won't happen. e: also you'd need to go in and do things like change around the medical device iso and rip out q9 regs
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A reminder that waaaay back, Trump couldn't even correctly name a book of the Bible and was running against a guy who could repeat the entire old testament from memory. He still won evangelicals easily in the primary because he spoke openly about what they cared about most - being an unapologetic racist shitheel.
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Louisgod posted:I'm sure this'll sound extremely callus but I think it'll take a huge gutting of those social services for the poor rurals to truly feel the effect of their decision and that them voting against their best interests for so long have finally caught up to them. As other folks have already said, the opposite is what will occur, because, again, people will find a way to rationalize (and those in power will find a way to 'help' them rationalize) why their problems are the fault of anyone but the people they voted for. Even if folks come to the conclusion that the government they voted in betrayed them, that's just more evidence that Government Doesn't Work and that leaves them putty in the hands of the next populist (left or right) to come along with a gently caress THE ESTABLISHMENT message, or the next demagogue preaching "it's all the fault of those illegals who took all the jobs and the (((New York liberals))) who took all the money". In a way, you could argue that the demolition of the welfare state is a (witting or otherwise) factory for hate groups. IDENTITY POLITICS MEETS ECONOMIC JUSTICE BOOM.
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Fulchrum posted:A reminder that waaaay back, Trump couldn't even correctly name a book of the Bible and was running against a guy who could repeat the entire old testament from memory. He still won evangelicals easily in the primary because he spoke openly about what they cared about most - being an unapologetic racist shitheel. A reminder that lemon bars aren't cookies and a fish fry is where you eat battered fish im partial to the british style of fish and chips with malt vinegar, its good and u should try it itd probably mellow you out or not
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Yet you will have people screwed who Didn't vote and if the Dems run someone authentic they'll vote for them.
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Although this does lend credence to the idea that the next Democrat to run in 2020 should be (NOT BERNIE FOR GOD'S SAKE HE'S AN OLD MAN LET HIM REST) an economic populist with a gently caress THE ESTABLISHMENT message.
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Nov 30, 2016 21:05
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Can I fish fry a lemon bar?
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Al! posted:every conservative has a special circumstance why its ok if THEY are on foodstamps My coworker's sister hates foodstamps. He cussed her out over it, knowing she applied once. Shes just mad everyone isn't a maniac like her working three jobs and takes the assistance.
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No idea what we're talking about, but pharmaceutical regulations are written by the Big Boys to cement their market positions and do all they can to maximize profits. They do a lot of good but they also do a lot of bad, and I wouldn't be opposed to someone saying it's time to throw them out and try again.
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Lastgirl posted:A reminder that lemon bars aren't cookies and a fish fry is where you eat battered fish I'm not scared by whoever it was who was all WTF IS A FISH FRY but lord am I sad for them.
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Lastgirl posted:A reminder that lemon bars aren't cookies Vntrve
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Studio posted:Can I fish fry a lemon bar? Visit your local State Fair next summer and you will have your answer, and the answer will be that you can fry anything.
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docbeard posted:Although this does lend credence to the idea that the next Democrat to run in 2020 should be (NOT BERNIE FOR GOD'S SAKE HE'S AN OLD MAN LET HIM REST) an economic populist with a gently caress THE ESTABLISHMENT message. Message should be. Fire Trump make America actually great. Also plenty of cons can be convinced to not vote.
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NumberLast posted:No idea what we're talking about, but pharmaceutical regulations are written by the Big Boys to cement their market positions and do all they can to maximize profits. They do a lot of good but they also do a lot of bad, and I wouldn't be opposed to someone saying it's time to throw them out and try again. ^
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docbeard posted:I'm not scared by whoever it was who was all WTF IS A FISH FRY but lord am I sad for them. it was him, i just quoted him.  Studio posted:Can I fish fry a lemon bar? finally asking the real, hard hitting questions around here docbeard posted:Although this does lend credence to the idea that the next Democrat to run in 2020 should be (NOT BERNIE FOR GOD'S SAKE HE'S AN OLD MAN LET HIM REST) an economic populist with a gently caress THE ESTABLISHMENT message. but who? who dammit... *paces back and forth in front of a white board with a game of DNC hangman written on it*
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docbeard posted:Visit your local State Fair next summer and you will have your answer, and the answer will be that you can fry anything. I couldn't go to Minnesota's fair this year, but I've been to OC's in California and god bless overpriced heart attack food 
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Nov 30, 2016 21:11
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docbeard posted:Visit your local State Fair next summer and you will have your answer, and the answer will be that you can fry anything. I used to think "surely that is not meant to be taken literally", and then I heard about deep fried Coca-Cola, and then I understood that you can fry anything.
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Rastor posted:I used to think "surely that is not meant to be taken literally", and then I heard about deep fried Coca-Cola, and then I understood that you can fry anything. you can fry water if you want to
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Rastor posted:I used to think "surely that is not meant to be taken literally", and then I heard about deep fried Coca-Cola, and then I understood that you can fry anything. deep fried butter
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docbeard posted:I'm not scared by whoever it was who was all WTF IS A FISH FRY but lord am I sad for them. It was Fulchrum in the Dem 2020 Primary thread, and you shouldn't pity him, he just sucks.
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Studio posted:Can I fish fry a lemon bar? that would actually probably be delicious as gently caress... you know, if the frying oils don't completely melt the cookie first
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Nov 30, 2016 21:21
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Studio posted:Can I fish fry a lemon bar? i love deep fried cookies!!!!!
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Crowsbeak posted:Message should be. Fire Trump make America actually great. Also plenty of cons can be convinced to not vote. It'll be too late, America will already be made great again.
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Nov 30, 2016 21:34
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docbeard posted:I'm not scared by whoever it was who was all WTF IS A FISH FRY but lord am I sad for them. Same person who claims to have an intimate knowledge of just how ineffective grassroots campaigns are, despite not knowing a popular medium for it lol. Lord have mercy if s/he finds out about spaghetti dinners, the 4H, county fairs, or pancake breakfasts. Crowsbeak posted:They ever do fried brownies? gently caress yeah they fry brownies. Seriously though, the Pelosi hate is super wrong. Even when I quoted her I wasn't saying she shouldn't win. She's good at what she does. I was just really really worried about her tone because it was literally "gently caress this guy, he couldn't carry Clinton" when the reality is it's Clinton's job to carry him and while she was dragging dems down, he won in his district. No one in 2008 was worried about carrying Obama, if anything they latched onto him like the last life raft from the Titanic.
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Is there a point to the 2020 dem primary thread anymore, it was fun at first but now it is basically this thread but with less cool posters and more Fulchrum
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loquacius posted:Is there a point to the 2020 dem primary thread anymore, it was fun at first but now it is basically this thread but with less cool posters and more Fulchrum So people can go back in time 4 years from now and point out why we lost the 2020 election.
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loquacius posted:Is there a point to the 2020 dem primary thread anymore, it was fun at first but now it is basically this thread but with less cool posters and more Fulchrum so you're telling me you dont want him confined to a separate thread?
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Thanks for all the replies to what I wrote, didn't occur to me that removing social services under a Trump administration would just cause the people that benefit from the services to dig their heels in deeper and blame GOVAMENT instead of Trump. At the same time, Democrats are terrrrrrrrrrrible when it comes to messaging so even if they fought as hard as they could to retain the benefits, they'd still either somehow get the blame or fail miserably at messaging that Trump et al caused their issues.
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Louisgod posted:Thanks for all the replies to what I wrote, didn't occur to me that removing social services under a Trump administration would just cause the people that benefit from the services to dig their heels in deeper and blame GOVAMENT instead of Trump. consider: what makes dems terrible at messaging.
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Turdfuzz posted:is there a point to anything anymore welcome friend
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omg, deep fried oreos.
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big black turnout posted:i have no idea who he is i just saw that article title in my google now feed and immediately started getting angry Ross is the New York Times' extremely Catholic columnist who enjoys skinny dipping with William F. Buckley and thinks premarital sex is the biggest problem in America today. I would suggest that the Democratic party not take his advice.
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did ross actually skinny dip with william buckley
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mugrim posted:Same person who claims to have an intimate knowledge of just how ineffective grassroots campaigns are, despite not knowing a popular medium for it lol. Lord have mercy if s/he finds out about spaghetti dinners, the 4H, county fairs, or pancake breakfasts. Yeah, I'm sure that you cannot go more than two steps into the Butler County Fair without hearing about the people's deep and passionate desire to immediately implement a single payer healthcare system. Oh sorry, I forgot that you can't figure out what the hell you're arguing half the time and need to rewrite it in your brain. Getting back to reality. A non Ellisson figure has finally gotten support from a relatively prominent Democratic figure. James Clyburn, House assistant leader, has thrown his support behind...Jaime Harrison, who I honestly thought had already withdrawn. To date, no-one has come out in support of Dean.
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Schnorkles posted:did ross actually skinny dip with william buckley does william f buckley suck cocks in hell??
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Schnorkles posted:did ross actually skinny dip with william buckley Yes. On his sailboat. I highly recommend the Chapo Reading Series about it.
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