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I really want a Killing Blow Rapier but there's no way in hell I'd ever give up my Swift Slaying Bloodlust rapier.
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Night10194 posted:I really want a Killing Blow Rapier but there's no way in hell I'd ever give up my Swift Slaying Bloodlust rapier. What's the third trait? If it's something you like you can pass on Killing Blow because the third trait of a Killing Blow weapon is usually a drat co-op perk
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Lunethex posted:What's the third trait? If it's something you like you can pass on Killing Blow because the third trait of a Killing Blow weapon is usually a drat co-op perk Perfect Balance. I'm thinking if I get a second Orange Rapier I'll try to make that one KB.
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KB excludes bloodlust on rapiers, so unless you are to have no healing at all you will end up with swift slaying normal. Which necessarily means your third perk is...off balance. That said the first two traits are very powerful so it may be worth it
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Nov 30, 2016 05:13
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Also by god the old Dualswords, Dualdaggers, and Singlesword are a letdown after the beta.
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Nov 30, 2016 05:16
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I found out recently that Killing Blow and Scavenger on the same weapon are possible, but it's broken as poo poo and Scavenger can't trigger when KB triggers. I only got 3 arrows back using such a trait setup on S&D after 200 slave kills.
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Willie Tomg posted:I got DCd after rolling an orange sword and dagger (first elf orange) on an all tome all grim run, and then riiiiiiight as it was opening up I got the "lost connection to steam servers" screen instead of seeing what it had. It still counted, but dang that was brutal. The game gives you your stuff long before the dice actually says it does (potentially as early as the Victory screen) so unless you DC while still in the level, you never have to worry. The visual dice roll is just telling you what you already got.
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Nov 30, 2016 07:13
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targeteer, skull cracker, & ammo holder on a repeater handgun for kruber 
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Nov 30, 2016 21:38
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Is there a particularly good way to approach this game as a new player? I've just been running around with easy pub groups to try to understand the maps, mechanics, and characters. Ordered a headset so I can join in more organized groups at some point.
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Nov 30, 2016 22:11
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Nov 30, 2016 22:14
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if u don't do ur first map on cata w/white gear ur not a true gamer
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Nov 30, 2016 22:42
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Play on hard with goons. Easy will let you learn the maps but do virtually nothing to help you actually learn how to play the game, and you will get almost exclusively white weapons. Hard will get you greens and blues typically.
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Nov 30, 2016 22:55
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Blocking will stop any incoming attack, including those behind you or to the side, just costs block stamina.
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Giodo! posted:Is there a particularly good way to approach this game as a new player? I've just been running around with easy pub groups to try to understand the maps, mechanics, and characters. Ordered a headset so I can join in more organized groups at some point. Yeah hard is a good place to start. You don't need good gear to play the game and in fact you will probably not notice a dramatic difference in gear-based performance until you've got some really good stuff under your belt, so it's only really on the higher Nightmare+ that you're going to really feel the difference between green and blue or between blue and orange items. Playing on Easy/Normal is good for learning maps but can actually teach you bad habits that don't translate well into the higher difficulties. For instance, the most important resource in the game is team health - anything you can do to prevent the loss of your health or the health of your teammates is more important than anything else. There are infinite rats, but you don't have infinite health. But on Easy/Normal, it can sometimes feel worth it to lose a little health to kill a bunch of rats. That's less true higher up. As said, not getting hit is way more important than killing rats, generally. Learn to block and dodge and push as part of your regular dance of death. Never stop looking around. I get killed by clanrats more than I care to admit, probably more frequently than I get killed by ogres, packmasters, and assassins combined. They have a magnetic attraction to your butt and the butts of your teammates, so never stop watching that flank. The elf being bad is a thread meme but it's not really true. It's just that, for some reason, bad players love the elf. Also her character is a whiny jerk. Which characters have you enjoyed playing so far?
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Even without the patch-fixes, fighting Roger with the dual daggers is fun and effective as hell.
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Mendrian posted:The elf being bad is a thread meme but it's not really true. It's just that, for some reason, bad players love the elf. Also her character is a whiny jerk. Until the changes from the most recent beta are implemented, the elf is the only character who has weapons that let her move at full speed while blocking, and the trueflight bow in its current incarnation has an extremely low skill threshold to obliterate specials. She can run through the level without slowing down and while being invincible to the first 2-3 hits she takes, so frequently players who play only elf will be in the front of the team, ignoring allies who are slowed down by needing to fight rats behind them, and get further and further away from the team until they inevitably get betrayed by their trueflight bow targeting the wrong rat, get jumped by an assassin and die because nobody is close enough to help them. The elf has by far the most abrasive personality of the characters, so seeing elf players die alone over and over while the elf character whines and insults the rest of the team non-stop means she's become the thread's favorite character to dump on. If played in a less stupid fashion the elf can be a team player the same as anyone, but get used to hearing her never stop whining about everything.
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Everyone says the Elf insults the team non-stop but when actual dialogue never plays and you only ever hear complaints about friendly fire between people then it doesn't seem that way to me  In lieu of an actual thread dedicated to it, how do people feel about Deathwing? I only know one person who says it's ok but everywhere I turn are people roasting it and calling it a flop before it's even released 
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Dec 1, 2016 06:37
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The people enjoying it are the ones who recognize Streum On's work ethic from EYE Divine Cybermancy, so they're used to the jank. Others are just regular 40K fans who are annoyed at the beta's bugginess. And with a story written by Gav Thorpe, the dialogue and plot are not going to be anywhere near as endearing as Vermintide.
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Deathwing does not allow me to validate the malus to the degree that EYE did, nor does it provide metastrudel forces to shoot. It may yet be okay, but it's no EYE Divine Cybermancy. No-one is off to the red border of the known universe at all!
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I really hope no one is buying a game from streum on because they like to play "good games" That studio's primary export is not quality, it's hilarity
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I was basically instantly disappointed when hacking was not some kind of real-time JRPG battle. I wish I had my patched weapons back. The knives are still fun but they're lacking the pep and slide they had during the beta.
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Night10194 posted:Deathwing does not allow me to validate the malus to the degree that EYE did, nor does it provide metastrudel forces to shoot. Now this is worrying. Were any sweet gangsta melodies composed?
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Night10194 posted:Deathwing does not allow me to validate the malus to the degree that EYE did, nor does it provide metastrudel forces to shoot. do the weapons feel anything like EYE? i still fire it iup because there's nothing quite like gibbing a fed at 20m with the depezador also EYE had some of the best character responses ive seen 
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Deathwing is primarily meant a single player game but people really want it to be the next L4D or Vermintide and are bitching about it because it's not. The art design and sheer commitment to the setting are crazy good (you can even zoom in on and read almost every scrap of text including purity seals) while there are some problems with optimization. Weapons are good, melee feels exacty the same as E.Y.E. and is just as useful. There now you can go back to talking about rats instead of space rats. Actually I wish there were space rats in 40k some humor would be nice.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:
This has got to be like six kinds of heresy.
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Nanomashoes posted:Deathwing is primarily meant a single player game but people really want it to be the next L4D or Vermintide and are bitching about it because it's not. The art design and sheer commitment to the setting are crazy good (you can even zoom in on and read almost every scrap of text including purity seals) while there are some problems with optimization. Weapons are good, melee feels exacty the same as E.Y.E. and is just as useful. well there's always mantic i guess  
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Mzbundifund posted:This has got to be like six kinds of heresy. and they're all ADORABLE.
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Vladimir Putt-Putt posted:do the weapons feel anything like EYE? i still fire it iup because there's nothing quite like gibbing a fed at 20m with the depezador The Thunderhammer explodes with shockwaves when it hits and will blow up multiple genestealers at a time. I'll slam the floor to get them off other people. Melee is pretty strong in coop
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DLC announced for December 15th. 
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Treasure just for logging in! A new one every day until Christmas, I think - a Warhammer advent calendar. Blue volley crossbow today; especially cool for non-Drachenfels players like I still am!
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Night10194 posted:DLC announced for December 15th. What a joke
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you're a joke
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Dec 1, 2016 23:14
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Hopefully it's so they can fix issues with the new map and not gently caress with the beta balance in ways like un-nerfing the bolt staff and un-buffing the axe/shotguns because seriously, the balance felt great in the beta
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Dec 1, 2016 23:18
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Bolt Staff will get nerfed again, AoE attacks will be removed from the game, Bardin will become an unplayable NPC in the inn, and every Clan Rat will become Stormvermin.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:44
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Where in the gently caress are these updates for the console versions?!
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So I joined. Is there a guild or clan or something to join and make matches through or is it all done through steam friends?
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Rap Three Times posted:So I joined. Link your steam account and you'll get an invite to Goonintide Steam Group.
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