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Triskelli posted:Bitchworth Moonbeam is a Wood Elf outlier, and should not have been counted. Total Warhammer - ALRIGHT LISTEN TO ME YOU POLE-PROPORTIONED DENDROPHILES
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Autism Sneaks posted:Where is my goddamn Elspeth von Draken DLC  She's riding that dragon side-saddle! She'd make a great legendary lord though. How cool would a super wizard riding a shadow dragon be?
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Wood Elves aren't Celts, Wood Elves aren't Celts, Wood Elves aren't Celts. Just keep reminding yourself of this fact. It's not well supported by the lore, which is subject to change wild change at the writer's whim anyway, but it's not super against it either. It's kind of dumb and lazy, but it's pretty low on my outrage meter Tomb Kings and Princes totally had Incantations in 6th, btw.
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Safety Factor posted:
As with every other caster LL, incredibly lovely or broken OP.
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Rygar201 posted:Tomb Kings and Princes totally had Incantations in 6th, btw. Fair enough, I couldn't find my 6th army book so I was going off the 8th edition one (hence mentioning Arkhan and his exception)
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There is some piece of poo poo goblin army running around in my territory, I sent an army after them but he stops just out of range. They sack the town they were about one town's worth of space out of reach of before (other side of my army), run AROUND my army, and still manage to be out of range next turn. I chase back after them and can't catch them, they run around me again and sack the same loving town and have enough movement left over to scamper off. I had just loaded up the game and that's loving stupid so I reloaded. I chase them after they sack the town just like before but this time I send another army down to try stick in the town they are close to but it isn't big enough to comfortably take them on itself. The army doesn't make it to the town, but it's right next to it and my big army is within reinforcement range too. These fuckers attack my small army and have lightning strike so they barely win the battle. They have enough movement to run me down again, barely win AGAIN, then run the rest of the army down AGAIN. They are now just barely in range of my big army but I'm pretty sure it's just because there was a lake in the way preventing them from running further. How the hell does this army have so much movement that it can sack towns and still run circles around my guys, and chase down an army three loving times? I'm sure there was some +campaign movement discrepancy because it was a level one lord I was using but 10-15% or so more movement isn't enough to just dance circles around him while also fighting. Doesn't fighting a battle use some movement up?
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Dec 1, 2016 05:22
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Fighting a battle doesn't use any movement, neither does sacking. The AI is fond of sacking a city, and then switching into force march stance to get away. For some insane reason, they game allows this.
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Dec 1, 2016 05:34
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They both should  Wonder why they dont? Or if its not mechanically doable for some reason.
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Comrayn posted:There is some piece of poo poo goblin army running around in my territory, I sent an army after them but he stops just out of range. They sack the town they were about one town's worth of space out of reach of before (other side of my army), run AROUND my army, and still manage to be out of range next turn. I chase back after them and can't catch them, they run around me again and sack the same loving town and have enough movement left over to scamper off. The answer, I've found, is walls. Walls on everything. I don't care that the settlement is deep in your lands and miles from the front line. Trust me. The AI is a lovely cheaty bastard and will beeline for anything not protected.
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Dec 1, 2016 05:43
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Yeah you either need an agent with you at all times who can hinder them or to install a mod that changes movement options.
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Dec 1, 2016 05:44
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As a comment, just because I'm in a game doesn't mean I'm not up for my matches, go ahead and poke me even if you see me in there, 99% of the time I'm not even playing it.
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Dec 1, 2016 07:46
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Yukitsu posted:As a comment, just because I'm in a game doesn't mean I'm not up for my matches, go ahead and poke me even if you see me in there, 99% of the time I'm not even playing it. A lot of people have forgotten, I think I'm the only one going around and playing matches according to my opponents and the lack of replays being posted in the thread.
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Dec 1, 2016 07:57
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Is there a benefit to playing the attacker in custom battles?
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Lore question, how do the peasants generally fare for each faction? Because, from what I can tell the Vampire Counts' mortal peasants must have a pretty sweet deal. They don't have to worry about being drafted because the army is just a bunch of skeletons and there's plenty of those to go around. They don't have to worry about giving up any portion of their crops because their lord only drinks blood. Sure they have to worry about horrible monsters in the woods eating them but that applies everywhere because its Warhammer. Plus, invading armies are usually always stopped before they penetrate too deeply into Sylvania because the place is just too spooky to invade.
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Dec 1, 2016 08:24
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Necroskowitz posted:Lore question, how do the peasants generally fare for each faction? It is canon that they are treated pretty well if you don't mind the fact they are a food source.
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Heavy amounts of necromantic energy warps the land and people though, so most living things in Sylvania, plants and people included, look incredibly gaunt and sickly. Hope you enjoy permanently looking like death warmed over.Telsa Cola posted:It is canon that they are treated pretty well if you don't mind the fact they are a food source. More that they're just generally ignored, I think.
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Dec 1, 2016 08:26
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Telsa Cola posted:It is canon that they are treated pretty well if you don't mind the fact they are a food source. Lord Koth posted:Heavy amounts of necromantic energy warps the land and people though, so most living things in Sylvania, plants and people included, look incredibly gaunt and sickly. Hope you enjoy permanently looking like death warmed over. Still better than Bretonnia.
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Dec 1, 2016 08:33
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poo poo, Vlad actually made a decent effort to improve the lot of his peasants, which is more than, uh, literally every other human or used-to-be-human leader can claim.
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Dec 1, 2016 08:37
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Psycho Landlord posted:poo poo, Vlad actually made a decent effort to improve the lot of his peasants, which is more than, uh, literally every other human or used-to-be-human leader can claim. The Empire is not bad to its people, it's just constantly invaded by monsters.
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Psycho Landlord posted:poo poo, Vlad actually made a decent effort to improve the lot of his peasants, which is more than, uh, literally every other human or used-to-be-human leader can claim. Settra 
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manfred is pretty poo poo to everyone iirc CATTLE CATTLE CATTLE RAAAGH
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I think someone said earlier in the thread that being a VC peasant is periods of relative safety punctuated by death and terror. At the end of the day an empire or bretonian lord needs his peasants, they're the ones that grow his food and who he gets taxes from. If they all die or are driven off then he starves and can't pay his troops or buy anything. He can't let them all die or let too many of them die too often, no one is going to move somewhere they're just going to get instantly murdered by orcs or beastmen. A vampire count does not need his peasants. He technically does for his food but if all of his peasants are dead he can just send his skeletons to go kidnap someone one village away or something. He has little use for money, and if he does need some gold he's probably got a hidden vault full of the stuff somewhere in his castle. If all of a vampire count's peasants meet a grisly end then he just shrugs his shoulders and raids a nearby stirland or ostermark town to get some starter "stock" to repopulate his village.
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Vlad was okay to his subjects, but keep in mind he got his reputation during the War of the Three Emperors, when the Empire was being fought over by complete dicks. The real reason he couldn't actually get people lining up behind him for the big chair was that the church of Sigmar wouldn't hear it in a million years.
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wiegieman posted:Vlad was okay to his subjects, but keep in mind he got his reputation during the War of the Three Emperors, when the Empire was being fought over by complete dicks. The real reason he couldn't actually get people lining up behind him for the big chair was that the church of Sigmar wouldn't hear it in a million years. It is the same argument as with Fidel Castro, sure he killed a lot of political opponents and had concentration camps but at least Cuba had free healthcare and literacy.
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I'm so loving ready to have another terrible political argument in this thread.
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Nanomashoes posted:I'm so loving ready to have another terrible political argument in this thread. Better than loving side saddles at least. People being upset about that, while not being upset about the option to kill, sacrifice or eat your captives is also kinda interesting. People getting upset about a fantasy setting not being representative of real life cracks me up. Cardiac fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Dec 1, 2016 |
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   In conclusion, Vampires are a land of contrasts.
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I dont know posted:My understanding is that they Wood Elves themselves aren't the ones manipulating Brettonia, but an elven goddess is doing it on their behalf. And after a few millenniums playing with her toy kingdom, she ends up liking them more than the elves themselves since WE are giant dicks even by elf standards. My understanding from a screenshot I posted from this actual game is that they are.
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Nanomashoes posted:The Empire is not bad to its people, it's just constantly invaded by monsters. The Empire is filled with opportunistic idiots who have a long and proud history of killing off half their people in doctrinal and political warfare, plus the witch hunters exist and have quotas to meet. The Imps only look nice because they're next door to Brettonia. Zore posted:Settra This is a good point tho
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Cardiac posted:Better than loving side saddles at least.
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Dec 1, 2016 10:32
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Hey, look, the best mod has been released.
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Cardiac posted:Better than loving side saddles at least. Yes this is exactly the same kind of thing, well done. You're #2 after the guy who said anyone who wanted female representation in games could just "mod it in".
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Psycho Landlord posted:The Empire is filled with opportunistic idiots who have a long and proud history of killing off half their people in doctrinal and political warfare, plus the witch hunters exist and have quotas to meet. The Imps only look nice because they're next door to Brettonia. To be fair, I'm pretty sure I heard that Karl Franz tries to make things better, I seem to recall that he once made an imperial edict that was something like a noble isn't allowed to live the high life with fine food and poo poo whilst their peasants are literally starving, and that he has Ludwig Schwarzhelm enforce this. Though, that's a case of the current ruler being a pretty swell dude and the fact that the aforementioned behaviour is so common mostly proves your point. I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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legendoftotalwar: orcs remind me of loving abos, man. they just go into somewhere, wreck it and poo poo all over the place. Lionheart: laughs nervously
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Terrible Opinions posted:Something else to point out is that the actual models weren't riding side saddle. Those aren't Spell Singers they're Sisters of the Thorn, a light shock/skirmish cavalry unit that has a few bound spells.
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Cardiac posted:Better than loving side saddles at least. People completely misunderstanding every single aspect of an argument really cracks me up.
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Whorelord posted:legendoftotalwar: orcs remind me of loving abos, man. they just go into somewhere, wreck it and poo poo all over the place. Holy poo poo, was this in their co-op campaign?
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MisterEff posted:People completely misunderstanding every single aspect of an argument really cracks me up. It's hard to understand the anti-sidesaddle argument as no one presents far it beyond "it's bad, duh".
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I find irondrakes really hard to use. They suffer from a combination of being expensive and time consuming to make, slow and short ranged. The drake gun variant seems designed to fry hordes of low armored infantry bunched up, but blasting charges do this too. It's tricky to set them up in a way that they don't get dogpiled. Troll hammer torpedoes feel like a much less flexible cannon. Seems like you could just get by using 2 or 3 units of cannons and get a lot more kills than a couple of irondrakes are gonna accomplish.
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Flamethrowers are bitchin'. That's it, hah.
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