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fadam posted:Yeah for as much as I like this show it sucks that half the plots involve lovely writing and actors. Its a bummer that Maeve is shaping up to be a major character in the series because every scene she's in is intolerable. I can forgive most of Maeve's poo poo because she is a man-made facsimile of a no-bullshit woman who charms men with words. Of course her dialogue is going to be unrealistic. No one is taking about how Ford's dialogue is unnaturally performative but that's seems to be because Hopkins has a free pass for being so loving good.
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Mad Wack posted:all we know for sure is it's about 500sq miles thanks to a nolan interview That almost seems small based on the scale we've seen so far. Then again, there's cattle ranches now that are an order of magnitude larger than that so at that size it really could be just be out west somewhere.
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Nill posted:The Elsie that Stubbs will find "alive". Who is there to code her behaviour so that Stubbs does not instantly know that it is a replacement? There are questions he could ask that Stubbs and real Elsie would know that a replacement would not. If there is a replacement Elsie it will be a plot device to alert Stubbs that the game is afoot.
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I was liking Maeve until about the third episode in a row of her Woke storyline. It just started to feel like the writers were spinning their wheels, and they kept retreading the same thing. Maeve threatens Sylvester and seduces Felix, goes back into service, gets killed, seduces Felix and threatens Sylvester, etc. And that one closing line, "We're going to have some fun, aren't we boys?", kind of had my hopes up that something interesting was about to happen but then it really didn't. I'm not really holding out for her rebellion to go anywhere in the finale, because if there's one complaint I have about this show, it's that they love to tease something huge that kind of fizzles out because the status quo has to be maintained. They can't go full on park massacre this early in the series, and Maeve succeeding in escaping means her character is basically written off the show.
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morcant posted:I agree. Ford has no reason to be suspicious of Stubbs at this point, unless he's unassailably omniscient about everything in the park, which would be pretty lame imo. Also, the Ghost Nation has worked as a sort of plot device before They have to get the Indians involved at some point. I can see a lot of next season being about them. I am really interested and a bit anxious to see how they portray them - so many pitfalls they could fall into. I don't think that they will ignore them and expect that there have been some pretty interesting things going on in their part of the park.
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grilldos posted:I can forgive most of Maeve's poo poo because she is a man-made facsimile of a no-bullshit woman who charms men with words. Of course her dialogue is going to be unrealistic. I'm fine with Ford being theatrical, I think it fits the character very well, he's a man who seems obsessed with drama and sees the entire world as being inferior to fiction.
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:They have to get the Indians involved at some point. I can see a lot of next season being about them. I am really interested and a bit anxious to see how they portray them - so many pitfalls they could fall into. I don't think that they will ignore them and expect that there have been some pretty interesting things going on in their part of the park. By pitfalls do you mean something like they encourage a host to go on a Vision Quest which ends up revealing the truth about the park? Cause I feel like that has to happen.
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WampaLord posted:By pitfalls do you mean something like they encourage a host to go on a Vision Quest which ends up revealing the truth about the park? Well, the show does have some leeway because they can always argue that it is just the narrative people who are racist and have a dim/benighted view of the Indians. But, yeah, some stereotyped speech, some spirit vision, some noble savage versus barbarian tropes could make me pretty unhappy. Hopefully they can do something where they are outwardly one way (ie violent) to protect their territory but that they are secretly advanced and have a lot figured out, etc.
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:Well, the show does have some leeway because they can always argue that it is just the narrative people who are racist and have a dim/benighted view of the Indians. But, yeah, some stereotyped speech, some spirit vision, some noble savage versus barbarian tropes could make me pretty unhappy. Hopefully they can do something where they are outwardly one way (ie violent) to protect their territory but that they are secretly advanced and have a lot figured out, etc. It would be super hilarious if the chief of the tribe totally knows everything about the park, having figured it out years ago, but he enjoys his "life" anyway and just acts like a good chief would. I feel like that could be a good flip on our expectations. He's all "Oh yea, I know where the maze is. Sure, I'll tell you how to get there, but trust me, it won't make you happy. Better to accept our lot. Look at me, I get to be chief!"
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:Well, the show does have some leeway because they can always argue that it is just the narrative people who are racist and have a dim/benighted view of the Indians. But, yeah, some stereotyped speech, some spirit vision, some noble savage versus barbarian tropes could make me pretty unhappy. Hopefully they can do something where they are outwardly one way (ie violent) to protect their territory but that they are secretly advanced and have a lot figured out, etc. Totally agree. It's almost 2017, maybe we could have a story that involves Native Americans that doesn't run entirely on tropes and stereotypes. Also, there are so many small details going on in this show I can't remember - was it one of the tribes or that more rural village with the little girl that had incorporated the hazmat-suited retrieval team into their belief system?
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morcant posted:Also, there are so many small details going on in this show I can't remember - was it one of the tribes or that more rural village with the little girl that had incorporated the hazmat-suited retrieval team into their belief system? It was a group of Indians going through town with the army guarding them. We don't know more backstory than that.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:The economics of Hollywood studios have slowly changed and there is less space for mid-budget adult fare, there are less studio films and the ones that are made are bigger-budget, blockbuster type films. The elephant in the room in Hollywood is China. When they're inserting entirely superfluous subplots starring actors who are famous in China into major releases, it's a pretty clear indication that their marketing focus is moving several thousand miles west. http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-china-hollywood-are-teaming-up-to-ruin-movies/
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fadam posted:Yeah for as much as I like this show it sucks that half the plots involve lovely writing and actors. Its a bummer that Maeve is shaping up to be a major character in the series because every scene she's in is intolerable. Maeve is great sorry for your lots
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Maeve is great but she's no Marti.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I'm fine with Ford being theatrical, I think it fits the character very well, he's a man who seems obsessed with drama and sees the entire world as being inferior to fiction. Also, I can't help but give Hopkins a free pass because Hopkins, I just can't.
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:Also, the flashback to Dolores and Arnold talking was right after she saw herself in the window. I seem to remember the same trigger when she sees herself in the parade and I wonder if that always triggers the memories of Arnold. If so, why? I think the Arnold flashbacks are finished by the time they get to pariah (they end in ep4 when he tells her about the maze, and she goes to las Mudas), and in Ep3 she has a flashback from looking in the mirror but it's to MiB's barn scene. Not all of the Arnold scenes are cut to from Dolores either. So reflections are a memory thing but not specifically an arnold thing, I'd say.
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:Well, the show does have some leeway because they can always argue that it is just the narrative people who are racist and have a dim/benighted view of the Indians. But, yeah, some stereotyped speech, some spirit vision, some noble savage versus barbarian tropes could make me pretty unhappy. Hopefully they can do something where they are outwardly one way (ie violent) to protect their territory but that they are secretly advanced and have a lot figured out, etc. They could show us some guests going on a quest with the indians and one of them being pissed off about how this portrayal is stereotypical and offensive and the others defending it because the entire western motiff is a stereotype and then they get butchered by hosts Maeve has set to killallhumans
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crazy cloud posted:Maeve is great sorry for your lots Actually she sucks and her actress is bad and her story with the two techs is retarded.
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fadam posted:Actually she sucks and her actress is bad and her story with the two techs is retarded. Sorry but she rules and is the opposite of what you said.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Sorry but she rules and is the opposite of what you said. I don't think so, Tim.
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fadam posted:Actually she sucks and her actress is bad and her story with the two techs is retarded. She is great and the actress is good but her story with the butchers was indeed a bit retarded at times
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Elias_Maluco posted:She is great and the actress is good but her story with the butchers was indeed a bit retarded at times I feel like a lot of people are bitching about the butchers not stopping her and I don't get it. It's clear that Felix wants to help her, so he has no motivation. Sylvester obviously does want to stop her, but she's straight up told him "I'll loving kill you" and then basically did kill him, so what exactly do you expect him to do?
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http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/jj-abrams-promises-westworlds-season-finale-is-insane/3433164 JJ abrams teases finale on Jimmy Fallon but more importantly  Another good look at the weird thing on Ford's desk
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Sorry but she rules and is the opposite of what you said. I do think so, Tim.
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Fooz posted:Another good look at the weird thing on Ford's desk Still doesn't answer what the gently caress it is, in fact I may be even more confused now.
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Thing on his desk is the first skull made for a host and it got shot to hell.
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http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/jj-abrams-promises-westworlds-season-finale-is-insane/3433164 At the 13 min mark there is it a clip of the next episode. Ford and the robo arny are going to kill everyone
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Josh Lyman posted:Bitch please. The satellite uplink would a directional, possibly parabolic antenna. To jam Stubb's cellphone, she would need an omnidirectional antenna. You are wrong.
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Fooz posted:Another good look at the weird thing on Ford's desk My first thought is that it looks like a meteorite. Definitely metallic and probably subjected to intense heat.
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Probably a magic rose from Beauty and the Beast but he encased it in metal so it would never lose its petals and he can be a beast forever. Smart guy.
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WampaLord posted:I feel like a lot of people are bitching about the butchers not stopping her and I don't get it. I thought Sylvester's motivation was that she knows he's been pimping out hosts to other workers and erasing the logs, neither of which he should be doing (duh).
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DoctorGonzo posted:http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/jj-abrams-promises-westworlds-season-finale-is-insane/3433164
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WampaLord posted:I feel like a lot of people are bitching about the butchers not stopping her and I don't get it. No, I understand them (Sylvester is probably a bit too dumb, but ok). My problem is with those 2 low rank dumbarses doing all they did without being noticed in this supposedly high security facility
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Elias_Maluco posted:No, I understand them (Sylvester is probably a bit too dumb, but ok). My problem is with those 2 low rank dumbarses doing all they did without being noticed in this supposedly high security facility Oh yea. Raising any of the hosts intelligence to max should certainly be something that needs admin approval.
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WampaLord posted:I feel like a lot of people are bitching about the butchers not stopping her and I don't get it. Stop her literally any of the times he used the tablet to mess with her brain. Make all her stats zero. The whole plot line is moronic and the three actors involved fuckin suck but because Thandie Newton is "yas queen slay" people ignore it.
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A quick fix would've been to have Sylvester try to lower her stats but it wouldn't work if she didn't allow it the same way she can't be frozen or forced into sleep mode anymore after "waking".
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I like Thandie Newton and I also like Game of Thrones the television show come at me TVIV
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Thing on his desk is the first skull made for a host and it got shot to hell. Yeah, that's exactly what I guessed when we first saw it. Its gonna be a prototype robobrain.
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I like Thandie but I think if it weren't for Anthony Hopkins this show would go from must-see fantastic television to a sci-fi nerds-only niche program. He just owns every scene and earns every dollar. There's no clunker of a scene that can't be fixed by a cut to Hopkins gazing at the camera and muttering something.
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