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DaveWoo posted:"I just wish Hillary would leave politics forever!!"
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Serf posted:I feel like there's only 2 approaches on this one: So what you're saying is he actually has only one option, lie, lie like a mother fucker. Seriously, when has owning up to past mistakes ever had good results in American politics?
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Dec 1, 2016 23:16
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Mister Fister posted:I think it highlights why Clinton was a problem candidate in the first place. That her and Katy Perry were buds?
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Dec 1, 2016 23:17
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zegermans posted:That her and Katy Perry were buds? That constantly surrounding herself with celebrities probably didn't endear her with the poor and working class voters in rustbelt states that she needed.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:19
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DaveWoo posted:"I just wish Hillary would leave politics forever!!"
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Dec 1, 2016 23:20
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Mister Fister posted:That constantly surrounding herself with celebrities probably didn't endear her with the poor and working class voters in rustbelt states that she needed. I'm not sure they very much cared who she spent her time with, as much as that she wasn't spending it with them.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:23
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Drive-by posting again to remind anyone that might be in my area: WILLIAMSON COUNTY TEXAS GOONS however many there actually areThere is a meeting Tonight, December 1 @ 6:30 PM located at Third Base, 13301 US-183, Bldg E, Austin, TX 78750. This is an opportunity to meet with democrats and progressives, and make your opinion heard. Don't miss out because it's a Thursday or it's too much time or out of the way, if you actually want to start making a change for the better in Texas be there. I'm heading over in about an hour myself, and it'd be interesting and/or incredibly awkward to see fellow neckbeard goons. Plus you'll get to see me trip over my words while I try to make a point, so bonus! Travis County goons, come join us too. I went to one of your organization meetings and I think they could probably do with a little perspective of who lives in the counties that aren't under Democrat leadership. Don't forget, too, that there are two more meetings coming up in the next week for Williamson County. I'll start looking at when the Travis County meetings are tonight as well, but for now I'm finishing up my work and heading out.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:23
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zegermans posted:I don't understand, would you prefer Hillary Clinton currently take a more active role in having the party recover? It's more that she promised to "stay and fight" against a Trump presidency and hey it turns out that was just as disingenuous and self-serving as most of the pledges she made!
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Dec 1, 2016 23:24
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:It's more that she promised to "stay and fight" against a Trump presidency and hey it turns out that was just as disingenuous and self-serving as most of the pledges she made! Well I'm sure you'd have a completely entirely better opinion of her if she had done exactly that and it wouldn't be simply "GET OUT HAG"
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Dec 1, 2016 23:25
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zegermans posted:Well I'm sure you'd have a completely entirely better opinion of her if she had done exactly that and it wouldn't be simply "GET OUT HAG" Correct, thanks. "Hahaha you want sincerity in politicians, how stupud r u|
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Dec 1, 2016 23:26
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zegermans posted:Well I'm sure you'd have a completely entirely better opinion of her if she had done exactly that and it wouldn't be simply "GET OUT HAG" She could donate most of her fortune to charity. Including the money she got from Goldman Sachs. But that's not gonna happen either. Just remember that after these 4 years Hillary and the rest of her friends are gonna be a hell of a lot richer.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:27
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What the DNC was tweeting before we're not burns on Trump or even attempted burns. They posted loving gifs of tv shows nobody gives a gently caress. Edit: Also Bern fans need to not rub clearly humiliated and defeated Hillary's nose into the dirt constantly. I know she played rough in the primaries, but we should relish not squander this opportunity for a changing of messaging in the party. Nonsense has issued a correction as of 23:30 on Dec 1, 2016 |
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Dec 1, 2016 23:27
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Nonsense posted:What the DNC was tweeting before we're not burns on Trump or even attempted burns. They posted loving gifs of tv shoes nobody gives a gently caress When they go low, we go shoe shopping with celebrity friends
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Dec 1, 2016 23:29
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zegermans posted:I'm not sure they very much cared who she spent her time with, as much as that she wasn't spending it with them. Hobnobbing with celebrities/having wealthy celebrities promote you constantly, not visiting rust belt states, and trying to downplay class politics all go hand in hand and reaffirms who she really cares about. I'm a salaried white collar professional from one of the 'elitist' east coast states and even i find it distasteful. I can't imagine how a working class voter from a rustbelt state feels about that.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:29
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:She could donate most of her fortune to charity. Including the money she got from Goldman Sachs. But that's not gonna happen either. Just remember that after these 4 years Hillary and the rest of her friends are gonna be a hell of a lot richer. She donates 10% of her income to charity. How much do you? Mister Fister posted:Hobnobbing with celebrities/having wealthy celebrities promote you constantly, not visiting rust belt states, and trying to downplay class politics all go hand in hand and reaffirms who she really cares about. A lot of this was to try to appeal to millennials, and it largely helped fix the atrocious damage from Bernouts by election day. If appealing to one demo alienated another, then she screwed up her tightrope walk quite clearly. Zerg Mans has issued a correction as of 23:34 on Dec 1, 2016 |
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Dec 1, 2016 23:31
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Dec 1, 2016 23:33
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zegermans posted:She donates 10% of her income to charity. How much do you? lol I wager that person would miss 10 percent more than Clinton would miss 75%
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Dec 1, 2016 23:35
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What was the ADL taking issue with?
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Dec 1, 2016 23:37
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There is so much Clinton could do to inspire and grow a progressive movement but just won't do these things. Useless to us really
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Dec 1, 2016 23:38
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HannibalBarca posted:What was the ADL taking issue with? I have no idea about specifics, but CNN ran something about his connections to the Nation of Islam.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:38
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i was ok with bernie until he belittled my alma mater.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:39
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Well, what about them? What's the state of unions now? Are they better or worse off? Have wages for these workers increased? IIRC the auto bailouts ended up with the companies doing more stock buybacks rather than investing back into the company, so Obama basically made the owners rich without creating any real big change.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:39
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Enkmar posted:There is so much Clinton could do to inspire and grow a progressive movement but just won't do these things. Useless to us really UHHHHHHHHHH if she tried you'd call her a hag and other misogynist things
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Dec 1, 2016 23:40
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zegermans posted:A lot of this was to try to appeal to millennials, and it largely helped fix the atrocious damage from Bernouts by election day. If appealing to one demo alienated another, then she screwed up her tightrope walk quite clearly. Somehow i doubt millenials would have been a problem either way, but you know what could have sparked more interest in both groups? Having a better platform of what you're going to do as president and actively promoting it better.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:41
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Dec 1, 2016 23:42
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HannibalBarca posted:What was the ADL taking issue with? http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/israel-middle-east/speech-raises-new-doubts-about-Rep-Ellisons-ability.html quote:New information recently has come to light that raises serious concerns about whether Rep. Ellison faithfully could represent the Democratic Party’s traditional support for a strong and secure Israel. In a speech recorded in 2010 to a group of supporters, Rep. Ellison is heard suggesting that American foreign policy in the Middle East is driven by Israel, saying: “The United States foreign policy in the Middle East is governed by what is good or bad through a country of 7 million people. A region of 350 million all turns on a country of 7 million. Does that make sense? Is that logic? Right? When the Americans who trace their roots back to those 350 million get involved, everything changes.”
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Dec 1, 2016 23:41
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zegermans posted:She donates 10% of her income to charity. How much do you? Wow you're loving stupid aren't you. Do you really think I, a disabled veteran, make the same as "I will never release the transcripts" Clinton?
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Dec 1, 2016 23:42
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Neeksy posted:IIRC the auto bailouts ended up with the companies doing more stock buybacks rather than investing back into the company, so Obama basically made the owners rich without creating any real big change. What a surprise. But he's really popular guys that's gotta count for something 
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Dec 1, 2016 23:43
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AI has really strong opinions about the Obama administrations Cash4Clunkers as well. Then again everybody in AI wants leaded gasoline
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Dec 1, 2016 23:44
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He looked and sounded more or less the same back then. GlyphGryph posted:They probably want her to do for Bernie what Bernie did for her after he lost the primary : make the rounds building support for him and his plans. Frankly, I'm not sure Bernie's plans would benefit from Clinton getting behind them. zegermans posted:"Japan forms alliance with white supremacists in well thought out scheme" Interesting side note, Himmler really admired the Japanese for flaky, superficial reasons, and they were considered "eastern Aryans" in Nazi eyes (or at least by Party racial classification, demonstrating once again just how arbitrary and stupid that nonsense was). Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 23:50 on Dec 1, 2016 |
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Dec 1, 2016 23:46
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lol at people not getting that tweet i posted at all
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Dec 1, 2016 23:46
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Nonsense posted:AI has really strong opinions about the Obama administrations Cash4Clunkers as well. Then again everybody in AI wants leaded gasoline AI could make their own Jonestown in Cuba
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Dec 1, 2016 23:46
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It's really awesome how much Israel acts as an undermining force and gatekeeper for any progress in America. The ADL and people like them have destroyed more careers including Jewish ones than even a diehard antisemite could. All in device to a foreign apartheid state. Also, shame on Keith for prostrating to those racist bullies.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:47
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stock buybacks seriously seem like an easy attack on corporations that arent utilized very often lol. maybe its just hard to weaponize phrasing.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:48
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Al-Saqr posted:It's really awesome how much Israel acts as an undermining force and gatekeeper for any progress in America. The ADL and people like them have destroyed more careers including Jewish ones than even a diehard antisemite could. All in device to a foreign apartheid state. For real. gently caress anyone who profits off war.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:49
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Al-Saqr posted:It's really awesome how much Israel acts as an undermining force and gatekeeper for any progress in America. The ADL and people like them have destroyed more careers including Jewish ones than even a diehard antisemite could. All in device to a foreign apartheid state. He's not prostrating he's saying he's disappointed in the ADL
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Dec 1, 2016 23:52
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zegermans posted:She donates 10% of her income to charity. How much do you? lmfao go gently caress yourself you classist gently caress
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Dec 1, 2016 23:52
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anime was right posted:stock buybacks seriously seem like an easy attack on corporations that arent utilized very often lol. maybe its just hard to weaponize phrasing. It's more complicated to explain why it's hosed up than to go to the usual canard of "we have to outsource because we can't compete!" which sounds logical in its simplicity despite being intellectually dishonest and falls apart under scrutiny.
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Dec 1, 2016 23:53
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zegermans posted:She donates 10% of her income to charity. How much do you?
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:It's more that she promised to "stay and fight" against a Trump presidency and hey it turns out that was just as disingenuous and self-serving as most of the pledges she made! When did she ever say that? Moreover, when did she ever have an opportunity where she could say that, without tarnishing the entire effort. She spent the last month of the election calling Trump on his bullshit of refusing to accept results if he lost. Regardless of the reality, any effort by her to rally people against him will make the entire thing look like sour grapes, especially since he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. She can't say poo poo against him until February, but at that point she can go to town. Right now, there's nothing to do but wait. Tight Booty Shorts posted:She could donate most of her fortune to charity. Including the money she got from Goldman Sachs. But that's not gonna happen either. Just remember that after these 4 years Hillary and the rest of her friends are gonna be a hell of a lot richer. She RUNS one of the worlds most respected charities.
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