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Alain Post posted:Oh well I guess that's OK then It's really not, and it's part of why the presumptive romance with her is p weird.
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That would be more boring and probably require a long rear end intro with a lot of talking, and also wouldn't work with a Paragon Shepard.
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Also the dark matter plotline was dumb, anyone that prefers it over the ending as presented is experiencing some serious "grass is greener" thinking.
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Dec 2, 2016 21:45
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Alain Post posted:That would be more boring and probably require a long rear end intro with a lot of talking, and also wouldn't work with a Paragon Shepard. Tbh, what they went with doesn't work great either.
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Alain Post posted:That would be more boring and probably require a long rear end intro with a lot of talking, and also wouldn't work with a Paragon Shepard. Imagine the intro to mass effect 2, instead of with the destruction of the normandy from an unseen foe it's shepard at his computer reading an email from the Galactic Council and epically slamming his coffee cup down on the table.
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Dec 2, 2016 21:46
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Reclaimer posted:Also the dark matter plotline was dumb, anyone that prefers it over the ending as presented is experiencing some serious "grass is greener" thinking. It would have made the series into a long-rear end shaggy dog story.
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Reclaimer posted:Also the dark matter plotline was dumb, anyone that prefers it over the ending as presented is experiencing some serious "grass is greener" thinking. It at least seemed to be consistent with all the lore and codex poo poo they laid down in ME1.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:It at least seemed to be consistent with all the lore and codex poo poo they laid down in ME1. Being consistent with the lore is for losers
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Dec 2, 2016 21:47
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More games should have a 6 Million Dollar Man opening.
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Dec 2, 2016 21:48
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:It at least seemed to be consistent with all the lore and codex poo poo they laid down in ME1. Too many gaping and obvious holes, like for example why would the Reapers leave the very verboten technology they are battling against all over for everyone to find.
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Dec 2, 2016 21:48
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I bet during ME2 Mac Walters was plotting some badass poo poo and Drew was like "my codexxxxxx" and whining about lore poo poo so they kicked him out lmao
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Dec 2, 2016 21:49
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Reclaimer posted:It's really not, and it's part of why the presumptive romance with her is p weird. Two of shep's love interests are basically children according to their respective cultures and a third is emotionally a vulnerable teenager. Makes you think how many Star Trek fans are on the Bioware staff.
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Alain Post posted:That would be more boring and probably require a long rear end intro with a lot of talking, and also wouldn't work with a Paragon Shepard. As opposed to Shepard working with the bumbling idiot human supremacists that were trying and failing to undo his work in the first game. That worked really well for a paragon shep.
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exquisite tea posted:Imagine the intro to mass effect 2, instead of with the destruction of the normandy from an unseen foe it's shepard at his computer reading an email from the Galactic Council and epically slamming his coffee cup down on the table. Shepard reads the Cerberus job ad with growing interest, only to quickly alt-tab to a report on pre-fab housing market rates when Executor Pallin walks by.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:As opposed to Shepard working with the bumbling idiot human supremacists that were trying and failing to undo his work in the first game. That worked really well for a paragon shep. You can end Mass Effect 1 by basically crippling Cerberus and flying off in their badass ship and blowing up the base they really wanted with two of their best operatives, who are now completely loyal to you. So yeah.
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Reclaimer posted:Too many gaping and obvious holes, like for example why would the Reapers leave the very verboten technology they are battling against all over for everyone to find. Yeah luckily they went with and ending that had none of those problems
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Alain Post posted:You can end Mass Effect 1 by basically crippling Cerberus and flying off in their badass ship and blowing up the base they really wanted with two of their best operatives, who are now completely loyal to you. So yeah. No reason you couldn't have done that without dying and getting rebuilt for some weird reason, in fact it would work better as a paragon shep.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Yeah luckily they went with and ending that had none of those problems Just because the ending we got was dumb doesn't mean the ending we didn't wasn't also dumb.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:No reason you couldn't have done that without dying and getting rebuilt for some weird reason, in fact it would work better as a paragon shep. It works better because you are forced into it by events beyond your control, rather than a paragon shep deciding "I am mad about politics" and loving off from the council unilaterally
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Also, it is cool.
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Lt. Danger posted:Shepard reads the Cerberus job ad with growing interest, only to quickly alt-tab to a report on pre-fab housing market rates when Executor Pallin walks by. Shepard's first renegade interrupt in ME2 comes at the very end of an unskippable council meeting discussing galactic policy, where you have the option to raise your hand and complain that nobody takes these meetings seriously.
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Reclaimer posted:Just because the ending we got was dumb doesn't mean the ending we didn't wasn't also dumb. We'll never know, but the one we got was epically bad and dumb and it's unlikely any other ending could have been worse.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:We'll never know, but the one we got was epically bad and dumb and it's unlikely any other ending could have been worse. That's pretty narrow-minded, it could've been a lot worse.
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Yeah seriously The worst part about the ending was that it was the ending to MASS EFFECT, a great gaming series You get worse endings in most other games
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So the new Andromeda Initiative video mentions that the Nexus is meant to undergo further construction in Andromeda, in the gameplay trailer the inventory screen they show has a bit in the top right corner referring to a 'Nexus level' or something like that. I suspect that one of the meta objectives in the game will be gathering resources to complete the construction of the Nexus, probably analogous to gathering inquisition power in DAI or war resources in ME3.
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I think an ending worse than the ME3 ending would take substantial dedication. There are plenty of reasonable ways to lay out why the reapers would build and curate galactic civilizations, an easy one is that to sustain themselves they need galactic civilizations to grow at a rate and to a size capable of sustaining the reapers, and the only way to do this is to kick start their expansion and universe sized growth by providing them with the means to expand rapidly and sustain that growth until reaping.
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Reclaimer posted:That's pretty narrow-minded, it could've been a lot worse. Alternate ending that would have been the reality in almost any other triple AAA game: The Illusive Man: "Ho ho, Shepard! Now I have absorbed the ultimate power of the Reapers! I will be as unto a living god!" Shepard: *dodge rolls and shoots the Illusive Man in the back when he turns to do his cyber thrust attack on every third rotation.* The Illusive Man: "Noo! The Reapers put all their techno energy into me! Now their fleet is exploding! I thought I could trust you...but now you've ruined everythiiing...!"
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Note that this describes almost the exact circumstances of the ending to acclaimed story-focused AAA smash hit, Bioshock.
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I'm getting a serious space teenager vibe from Ryder in that last preview. I wonder if there will be a mission where we have to take the gang to the space diner for space milkshakes and there is a dance off with our preppy rivals in the space parking lot.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:I think an ending worse than the ME3 ending would take substantial dedication. I'm not arguing against that, that kind of debate could take up the entire thread (oh hey, it has). I'm positing that the dark matter alternative specifically is pretty drat stupid. Android Blues posted:Note that this describes almost the exact circumstances of the ending to acclaimed story-focused AAA smash hit, Bioshock. 
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Android Blues posted:Alternate ending that would have been the reality in almost any other triple AAA game: Sub out the illusive man for the Star Kid and that's basically the ending.
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I think mass effect 3 would have a better ending if there wasn't Control. You just merge with the doodad and the reapers recalculate or whatever. Then they leave. Roll credits
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This thread has improved tremendously since it steered its focus away from speculation and back towards things we can form substantive opinions about. ME was outstanding. It was an actual RPG. People who don't really like RPGs tend to think it wasn't as good as ME2 which was very good but was an EA RPG-lite that was obviously focus tested. Also, the writers took an amazing framework from the first game and completely ignored it in order to deal with their daddy issues. ME3 had fun gameplay and some good moments but was start to finish a horrible piece of poo poo when it came to the writing. With critical thinking and a few playthroughs of the series it becomes obvious that the people writing it were just doing a job but weren't trying to do their best. These weren't people who intimately familiar with the characters or what had come before. As such, we got a huge turd. These are my opinions, but they are also correct so if you disagree then you must have wrong opinions.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Sub out the illusive man for the Star Kid and that's basically the ending. Yeah, sure, in a reductio ad absurdum sorta way.
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Reclaimer posted:I'm not arguing against that, that kind of debate could take up the entire thread (oh hey, it has). I'm positing that the dark matter alternative specifically is pretty drat stupid. Not really. You can weave in the dark energy bit as a danger of letting galactic civilization expand too much. So on one hand you've got the reapers' need to grow civilizations large and fast and on the other a danger that they could grow it too large. This gives the reapers a motivation for needing to get the harvest done by a certain time in a way that doesn't compromise their traditional invulnerability. It also lets you leave their overall purpose for existing a mystery. Sure we know why they need to reap, to survive. But why do they or did they need to survive? Stay tuned for the next trilogy to find out!!! What's outside the galaxy that might be heading this way? This also sets up the ability to have a much more satisfying conclusion to the story than what amounts to a conventional war followed by a literal deus ex machina. You could defeat their proxies or their ability to even enter the galaxy on a full scale basis, just like in ME1 but on a grander scale or for higher stakes. I'm willing to bet a large amount that EA demanded a cool hoo rah galactic war which is why we got ME3, the game that starts with a dumb invasion segment and ends with a Star Kid.
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Zzulu posted:Yeah seriously As he shat in my mouth, i sighed with relief. It could be worse, I thought, This could be Dragon Age 2.
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Dark Energy is the same as Disobedient Robots, except more boring and with less (no) thematic resonance.A Buff Gay Dude posted:a literal deus ex machina None of the Mass Effects were classical Greek plays though.
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Waltzing Along posted:This thread has improved tremendously since it steered its focus away from speculation and back towards things we can form substantive opinions about. This guy gets it and I bet he fucks, a lot
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It would be extremely funny if the reason for the extinction cycles was because of poor gas mileage. It would also be really bad but still, really funny.
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DancingShade posted:I'm getting a serious space teenager vibe from Ryder in that last preview. I liked that SHepard seemed to be in his 30's These new youngins are TOO drat YOUNG and need to get off my lawn
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