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mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬
https://twitter.com/gdebenedetti/status/804796802247573509

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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Atrocious Joe posted:

Leftist infighting has been a thing forever

like half the communist manifesto was sick burns on other socialists

the bolsheviks were named after a party split


the militant, well organized union that's strong in las vegas also helped turn Nevada blue. they're the ones that actually do the work

Yeah do what they did in NV, Sheldon Adelson tried his best to buy that state, but worker engagement made it the only 2016 success story.

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.
https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/804797669772296192

lol

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
this is all a ploy to prevent keith ellison from getting the chair, yells forum user

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

:lol::lol::lol:

:rip:


Keith, the rock is in your couart

u need 2

alley oop 4 the slam dunke....

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

I'm more at eased, but until Ellison is literally the DNC chair, I'm not getting my hopes up.

Edit:

logikv9 posted:

this is all a ploy to prevent keith ellison from getting the chair, yells forum user

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Lastgirl posted:

:lol::lol::lol:

:rip:


Keith, the rock is in your couart

u need 2

alley oop 4 the slam dunke....

"it's just the shoes!!!" insists increasingly nervous establishment

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
i wish the adl denouncement would foreshadow an end to democratic support of vicariously living through israel's brutally oppressive military, but keith ellison is a big israel fan and has worked to pass huge funding bills for them. at least hes a two state solution guy

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

To be fair, her absence in the end of Aug/Beginning of Sept was due to having goddamned pneumonia, and even then she was doing appearances. Just not mini nuremburgs.

Also, he's not even in office yet and this is still a thing: https://trumpgrets.tumblr.com/

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Just heard someone on NPR saying we need to get rid of working-class whites. Other interviewees were like, "Really? Really?," but still. I hope this poo poo doesn't poison party reformation. Clinton pulled millions of poor whites. That's millions of Democratic voters right there, yet I keep hearing people saying we need to get rid of them or they're the enemy. Like god drat, people. That's millions of your existing base.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Barracuda Bang! posted:

I'm in Queens and it feels like below the county level, there are these Democratic clubs that function as old white people social clubs.

How do I take them over? And is there any point?

At the very least, they should be browner than they are. This is loving Queens.
http://www.brooklyndems.com/party_rules

These are the rules for King's County, and I bet Queens is similar. The only reason these rules are even accessible is because of the work of the New Kings Democrats got organized enough to get them put online.

What's interesting is the bylaws for proxy votes:

quote:

A quorum at all meetings of the County Committee for the purpose of transacting any business shall consist of 450 members present in person or by proxy. All action by the County Committee shall require the affirmative vote of a majority of votes cast. In the event a quorum is not present at any meeting, no action other than to adjourn said meeting may be taken.

So a quorum is needed, but the quorum can be achieved by proxy-votes.

quote:

The Chairperson of the Executive Committee shall, together with the Notice of the Organizational Meeting, send out Proxy forms in the following manner:
a. For (prospective) members of the County Committee who are designated on a petition for office which names candidates for the State Committee from their District:
i. Provided that within two weeks of the filing of said designating Petitions, the candidate(s) for State Committee tender funds in the amount of $1.00 per County Committee candidate (on their petitions), and such funds shall clear, to the Kings County Democratic County Committee, such Proxy form shall list as the proposed Proxy Holder the candidate(s) for the State Committee on such designating petition(s);
ii. In the event that more than one candidate for the State Committee is designated on such a designating petition, then, together with the tendered funds, the two candidates shall designate in writing one person as proposed Proxy Holder.
Seems fairly reasonable, but what is this?

quote:

b. In all other cases, the proposed Proxy Holder shall be the Chairperson of the Executive Committee or his or her designee.
Since most Election Districts are vacant, the Chairperson get those proxy-votes. So therefore the King's County Democratic party is functionally run by a single person and his cronies.

Democracy in Action!

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

MizPiz posted:

I'm more at eased, but until Ellison is literally the DNC chair, I'm not getting my hopes up.

Edit:

Maybe they will give the DNC chair to Hillary! She's worked so hard and long, she deserves something! /Sarcasm

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

lol

marching orders? or thin skin?

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

logikv9 posted:

this is all a ploy to prevent keith ellison from getting the chair, yells forum user

he should handcuff himself to it imo

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i think dean just realizes that everybody is supporting this other dude and doesn't wanna bother

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

tom perez and ilyse hogue basically gotta announce now to have any shot lol

keith's gonna get the alf-cio endorsement, because trumpka rigged the vote lol which leave the uaw and the seiu as the only big unions left

and as i've been saying, if the dnc chair goes to someone without any labor endorsements the unions are gonna give up on the democratic party period

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.

anime was right posted:

lol

marching orders? or thin skin?

probably a combination of schumer telling him to gently caress off behind the scenes and realizing that he probably doesn't actually want to do it again

EDIT: wait I just realized that the DNC is clearing the field for a candidate again :stonk:

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
Just remember Keith,

https://twitter.com/wesleysnipes/status/804022459938676736

-From Blade

comingafteryouall
Aug 2, 2011


Accretionist posted:

Just heard someone on NPR saying we need to get rid of working-class whites. Other interviewees were like, "Really? Really?," but still. I hope this poo poo doesn't poison party reformation. Clinton pulled millions of poor whites. That's millions of Democratic voters right there, yet I keep hearing people saying we need to get rid of them or they're the enemy. Like god drat, people. That's millions of your existing base.

if somebody went and said we need to get rid of all the working class black voters cause they're all drug dealers that'd be unacceptable. and they'd probably get a position in the Trump admin.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
howard dean should have just done the dean scream in the video to show others that he's finished

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

logikv9 posted:

howard dean should have just done the dean scream in the video to show others that he's finished

i genuinely feel super bad for dean that being excitable ruined his chances of becoming president and he turned to the dark side bc the media sucks lol

like, he turned to evil, but he genuinely could have been president if not for, quite honestly, the least disqualifying reason ive ever seen. then we had 2016.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

OAquinas posted:

To be fair, her absence in the end of Aug/Beginning of Sept was due to having goddamned pneumonia, and even then she was doing appearances. Just not mini nuremburgs.

Also, he's not even in office yet and this is still a thing: https://trumpgrets.tumblr.com/

These people are the fertile soil Democrts should be tilling right now.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


https://twitter.com/wesleysnipes/status/803322489346457600

Bizarro Watt
May 30, 2010

My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.
I hope Ellison's first action as DNC Chair is to get rid of that atrocious logo that Kaine cooked up.



Bring back the kicking donkey.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
hey guys remember when shouting into a mic disqualified you from becoming president but having Nazi anti-Semites on your team is totally cool and good?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Al-Saqr posted:

hey guys remember when shouting into a mic disqualified you from becoming president but having Nazi anti-Semites on your team is totally cool and good?

Please respect the sanctity of the office and what it represents.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Atrocious Joe posted:

the militant, well organized union that's strong in las vegas also helped turn Nevada blue. they're the ones that actually do the work

yep, that's UNITE HERE's Culinary Union local 226. They have ~60,000 members in Las Vegas and basically set the bar for how an effective and aggressive labor movement should operate

Subjunctivitis
Oct 12, 2007
Causation or Correlation?

steinrokkan posted:

Right. Conservatives are programmed to hate "punishing success" and "acting entitled". But surely they can be made to support a punishment for unfairness and exploitation, especially when they themselves are victims. However, this would require a politician capable of calling out the billionaire class out for what they really are, instead of trying to stand up for them and treating them as Gods among men.

You say something like:

"If you work for a company or large corporation making a product or doing a service, and then that company makes a profit, your boss, your boss's boss and all the way up to the CEO and top-level executives get pay raises and bonuses. Where are your pay raises and your bonuses? You did your job just as much as they did theirs, probably more so to create your company's profit! So again, what about your pay raise and your bonus?

Also, when stockholders and shareholders, who by the way, do not work at your company, do not make the product, do not do the service, they just put money into it to 'let it grow,' when your company makes profits on sales of goods and services, these stockholders and shareholders share in your company's profits. All these people did was put money into your company while you worked hard so they could make a little extra cash from the profits you helped create. What about your share in the profits that you helped create?

And if lower taxes on your CEOs and your company are supposed to allow them to pay you more, why aren't you getting paid more?

It seems that something is terribly wrong here when all of these people get to earn higher wages, bonuses, and profit-shares from your hard work and you don't see an extra nickel and these people are actively working against you earning higher wages so they can pad their own wallets and bank accounts.

Speaking of bank accounts, many of these ultra-rich executives and corporations you work for stash their money on offshore accounts so they can avoid paying taxes on that money, while you pay taxes on the full amount of your income, not to forget that for many of you, it's often very difficult to fathom having any reasonable amount of emergency money in a basic banking account right here in the US, much less millions and billions of untaxed money in foreign bank accounts."

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

HannibalBarca posted:

probably a combination of schumer telling him to gently caress off behind the scenes and realizing that he probably doesn't actually want to do it again

EDIT: wait I just realized that the DNC is clearing the field for a candidate again :stonk:

No don't you see, it's different this time

He's the candidate the millenials want, so they're not going to complain about Ellison being anointed as a helpless figurehead by the same entrenched corrupt leadership they've spent the last year complaining about

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Alter Ego posted:

I think what we can infer from 2016 is "don't run antisocial goobers for President, it never ends well"

Nixon was going well until well you know

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Snipes is cspam af

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

OAquinas posted:

To be fair, her absence in the end of Aug/Beginning of Sept was due to having goddamned pneumonia, and even then she was doing appearances. Just not mini nuremburgs.

Also, he's not even in office yet and this is still a thing: https://trumpgrets.tumblr.com/

Yeah, that's mentioned in the article.

But turns out spurning large public appearances in favor of private fundraisers doesn't work when you don't spend the goddamn money effectively either because you have no message that connects with people at large because you've spurned large public appearances to test your material.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

Accretionist posted:

Just heard someone on NPR saying we need to get rid of working-class whites. Other interviewees were like, "Really? Really?," but still. I hope this poo poo doesn't poison party reformation. Clinton pulled millions of poor whites. That's millions of Democratic voters right there, yet I keep hearing people saying we need to get rid of them or they're the enemy. Like god drat, people. That's millions of your existing base.

I heard Tom Ashbrook this morning refer to Bernie as a :frogsiren:SOCIALIST:frogsiren: three loving times in a row and had to turn off the radio. Like how the gently caress do you not see that all this red-baiting bullshit is a major reason why Bernie supporters were wholly opposed to voting for clinton. Like, before the election, I would have imagined fox news and the right try to smear Sanders with that poo poo but NPR has run that poo poo into the ground far worse than the right did.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

limousine Liberals are waaaaaaaaay more terrified of Sanders Socialism than the white middle class GOP base is

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
Ok I like dean again

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Snipes is cspam af

im glad to see that theres still mileage on it :frogbon:

Subjunctivitis
Oct 12, 2007
Causation or Correlation?

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

I heard Tom Ashbrook this morning refer to Bernie as a :frogsiren:SOCIALIST:frogsiren: three loving times in a row and had to turn off the radio. Like how the gently caress do you not see that all this red-baiting bullshit is a major reason why Bernie supporters were wholly opposed to voting for clinton. Like, before the election, I would have imagined fox news and the right try to smear Sanders with that poo poo but NPR has run that poo poo into the ground far worse than the right did.

I had to avoid NPR this entire election season. Both for the poo poo with Sanders during the primary and during the GE they did the "Trump and his supporters are saying this, Hillary and her supporters are saying this. It seems that they are different" bit.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:

yep, that's UNITE HERE's Culinary Union local 226. They have ~60,000 members in Las Vegas and basically set the bar for how an effective and aggressive labor movement should operate

every union needs a 6 year long strike to reinvigorate themselves every couple decades

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

I heard Tom Ashbrook this morning refer to Bernie as a :frogsiren:SOCIALIST:frogsiren: three loving times in a row and had to turn off the radio. Like how the gently caress do you not see that all this red-baiting bullshit is a major reason why Bernie supporters were wholly opposed to voting for clinton. Like, before the election, I would have imagined fox news and the right try to smear Sanders with that poo poo but NPR has run that poo poo into the ground far worse than the right did.

Doesn't Bernie refer to himself as a socialist?

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Jul 4, 2012

loquacius posted:

The difference is that Romney was running against Obama, who had an obvious advantage over Clinton in that he had not been poisoned in the primary by the coward Bernie Sanders

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lol

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