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Waltzing Along posted:That's not the good ending. That's the retard ending. The good ending is red w/ enough war assets to survive. Which of course, makes literally no sense. How does having more gunships make you more resistant to anti-synthetic radiation, or whatever the hypothetical weapon is?
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Waltzing Along posted:Which is why I feel DAO is their best game. DAO was p rad in this goons opinion
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Alain Post posted:One problem is that years and years of RPG design has led to the implicit agreement that both players and designers adhere to, which is that if you do a lot of work and level up a lot, you should be able to get the "ideal" result, when not getting the ideal result is frequently more interesting of a story Lol this isn't people's problem with the ME3 ending
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DAO's is a poster child for reactive endings. The whole Landsmeet section onwards is a fantastic climax and payoff.
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That was the best part of the ending kerfluffle. Casey Hudson - "You players are upset that we did not give you a happy ending" Players, in a slower voice using simpler words, as if talking to a small child - "No, when we say the ending was 'bad' and that's why we are upset, we don't mean that kind of bad.
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if I remember the monstrously gargantuan Mass Effect thread during ME3 launch, a lot of people were upset about the ending because it didn't give them a proper farewell to the characters (their waifus) and because it seemed really gloomy with the mass effect relays blowing up and splitting up the entire galactic community
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Waltzing Along posted:Which is why I feel DAO is their best game. there should have been some sort of consequence for leaving the arl's son possessed while you sorted out the mages to get their help, but otherwise origins was pretty alright on this front
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I would have liked Origins if I found the gameplay even a little bit more interesting. I hate the Infinity Engine games too (and the combat in Pillars/etc) so I really wasn't the target audience tbf.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Lol this isn't people's problem with the ME3 ending tbf at this point if you're still complaining this hard about ME3's ending the problem had to have been it killed your dog or something. It was bad but who actually cares this much?
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There are people in here defending it my friend
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Zzulu posted:if I remember the monstrously gargantuan Mass Effect thread during ME3 launch, a lot of people were upset about the ending because it didn't give them a proper farewell to the characters (their waifus) and because it seemed really gloomy with the mass effect relays blowing up and splitting up the entire galactic community
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Actually what they should have done was have written an ending that was thematically, tonally and narratively consistent with the first two games and their established lore instead of letting two manchildren take total control of the ending process and "lots of speculation"
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It would have been fine, even great if Shepard was doomed to die. It would have been acceptable if everyone you knew died too, accepting the sacrifice to stop the reapers. A bittersweet ending where Shepard and the team gave their all and perished but saved the galaxy for posterity would have been totally appropriate. What wasn't fine was saying "there won't be an A, B, C ending" when that's exactly what happened, when you contravene the narrative themes established over the previous two games, and when the game makes clear that nothing you've done up to this point over the entire trilogy has really changed what will happen in the end. And in the course of doing so, contradicting all the established lore and conventions built up over several years and games.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:That was the best part of the ending kerfluffle. This is the company whose response to criticism of DA2 was (exactly, not a paraphrase) "some people didn't appreciate the innovations..."
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lol narrative themes Shepard's mission from the very first time she learned about them was to destroy the Reapers. You can sure do that. Done. 
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:That was the best part of the ending kerfluffle. I'm going to give you one chance to correct yourself before I do.
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the ending was bad but the internet's reaction to the bad ending was worse
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Milky Moor posted:And yeah, this, basically, thorsilver. ME1 was great for its time and is still fairly strong, albeit dated. ME2 might be Bioware's best game ever. ME3 refines ME2's gameplay and improves it across the board but the story starts weirdly (to say the least), never really finds its stride, and then collapses in a pool of its own vomit just as it reaches the finish line. But ME3 does have some good moments and the Citadel DLC is a fantastic love letter. Thanks, that's a useful summary. Seems like I've got a lot to look forward to with ME2, and with ME3 I'll just have to prepare myself for the story collapsing entirely. Honestly if the gameplay holds up and there's enough good character moments I'll probably cope reasonably well with that. The Citadel DLC is kind of a character send-off of sorts, isn't it? I'll definitely be wanting that if that's the case. Someone mentioned an ME2 Ultimate Edition for PC earlier, but for the life of me I can't find this anywhere (except for a bunch of dodgy links to torrents). Is this still a thing that exists? Turns out that I've got the ME2 Steam edition, not Origin, while ME3 is on Origin. From the sounds of it I'd have to get the Origin edition of ME2 to get all the DLC working?? gently caress this is confusing. Should I just give up and get the PS3 version? That has all the DLC doesn't it? Would that still work on a used copy or is it download code bullshit? edit: I'm also in the UK, which I guess could be relevant since we tend to get extra screwed on these things sometimes thorsilver fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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wyoak posted:the ending was bad but A Buff Gay Dude's posting is worse
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thorsilver posted:Thanks, that's a useful summary. Seems like I've got a lot to look forward to with ME2, and with ME3 I'll just have to prepare myself for the story collapsing entirely. Honestly if the gameplay holds up and there's enough good character moments I'll probably cope reasonably well with that. http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/dlc/mass-effect-2-ultimate-edition/107109 First hit, might be a PS3 exclusive bundle tho (which would be mighty lame!) Also you don't need to have all the games on the same platform to transfer the saves down the line, you can copy/paste the save file across folders. Further edit: The only important DLC for ME2 is Arrival anyways, the rest are just new companions and/or missions for existing companions. I got Zaeed for free and I'm glad of it but in general I just put paid DLC companions in any game right the gently caress out of my mind. Reclaimer fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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I think the endings are good. ABGD's posting is bad, though.
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thorsilver posted:Should I just give up and get the PS3 version? That has all the DLC doesn't it? Would that still work on a used copy or is it download code bullshit?
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:There are people in here defending it my friend They're defending it because you're being such a giant rear end in a top hat about the whole thing. If you stopped talking about it everyone else probably would too.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:They're defending it because you're being such a giant rear end in a top hat about the whole thing. If you stopped talking about it everyone else probably would too. this is the most unbelievable thing about mass effect 3's ending
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poptart_fairy posted:this is the most unbelievable thing about mass effect 3's ending The most unbelievable thing about it was people spending real money to send cupcakes in 3 different colors to the bioware offices because they were just that angry about a video game.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:They're defending it because you're being such a giant rear end in a top hat about the whole thing. If you stopped talking about it everyone else probably would too. No they weren't their idiocy is what drew me here
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:The most unbelievable thing about it was people spending real money to send cupcakes in 3 different colors to the bioware offices because they were just that angry about a video game. Actually that owns what kinda scrub can't afford some cupcakes to troll a developer who ruined a good game series and universe.
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At this point, how about we just drop all talk of the ME3 ending because it is just an endless roundabout of bad opinions. Anything else is fair game, but for now let's just put a moratorium on ME3 ending talk. Talk about characters, talk about mechanics, talk about plots, talk about missions, talk about any of the other things this series has given us.
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Okay let's talk about why the game is set in a completely different galaxy this time.
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marshmallow creep posted:At this point, how about we just drop all talk of the ME3 ending because it is just an endless roundabout of bad opinions. I like Traynor even though she's a nerd who doesn't really fight.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Okay let's talk about why the game is set in a completely different galaxy this time. It's a conspiracy to get rid of the geth
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Reclaimer posted:I like Traynor even though she's a nerd who doesn't really fight. I like how Traynor showers in her underwear.
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Reclaimer posted:I like Traynor even though she's a nerd who doesn't really fight. Traynor was cool and good. She's a non-combat geek who takes her video games way too seriously. She'd be a goon but she spends too much money on personal hygiene for that to work.  Plus in the horney part of the game she's the only love interest that initiates instead of the usual Commander Shepard Work Place Harassment model.
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Mymla posted:I like how Traynor showers in her underwear. Nevernudes deserve our pity.
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Trast posted:Traynor was cool and good. She's a non-combat geek who takes her video games way too seriously. She'd be a goon but she spends too much money on personal hygiene for that to work. Yeah, more good points in her favor. I liked her predecessor too, or at least her story arc how she goes from peppy butler to broken transient. I felt things!
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Reclaimer posted:lol narrative themes To be fair the theme of Daddy Issues permeates the series like crazy. Even on a meta level. The ME3 ending with it's lovely paternalistic alien nonsense was so unpopular and destructive the developers are setting the next game in a whole new galaxy. Little Mass Effect is getting it's own place in a new city.
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