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Mel Mudkiper posted:Those are WWII themed the first game ends with the assassination of archduve franz ferdinand
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Tabata was hired because he ships projects out, which is a valuable thing for Square during the 14 1.0 era. It's really weird people keep attributing to Tabata as a writer, no one references Yoshi-P about FF14 RR's writing.
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Endorph posted:shadow hearts literally takes place during world war 1 my man gently caress you're right. Man I really liked covenant
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Dec 4, 2016 04:28
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Instead of wondering when we'll get another game with FFT's level of worldbuilding, I'm wondering when we'll get another FFT
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Dec 4, 2016 04:30
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covenant is really good but don't sleep on sh1, that game is good too i like the scene where the japanese spy is all 'he's going to blow up japan!!' and the old chinese dude is like '... okay, but what's the downside?"
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Dec 4, 2016 04:30
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When you are playing this game to Skynyrd's Free Bird
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Dec 4, 2016 04:32
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Endorph posted:covenant is really good but don't sleep on sh1, that game is good too Shadow Hearts was a little too rough for me. It had promise that was reached in covenant but I could never get too into it.
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Dec 4, 2016 04:34
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Are there more outfits than their prince/crownguard stuff and casual outfits? I really don't like my current fashion options
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Dec 4, 2016 04:34
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SH1 is a really really good game, Covenant was good too but I didn't like how much they cranked up the dumb slapstick humor. Including four characters whose entire purpose is homoerotic comic relief was a lot more than the recommended "not any" and then From the New World is basically an groanfest with no self-awareness
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Dec 4, 2016 04:34
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covenant had a lot of groaners but some of the jokes really landed (I love Ring Soul) and I think it was nicely contrasted with the fact that Yuri's pretty miserable the whole game. From the new world is trying way too hard tho
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Dec 4, 2016 04:46
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So can you ever go back to Altissia? I'm getting a prompt saying if I go forward with a question I'm done with the city, but there are still hunts here that I haven't done (and can't do because I'm a little bit low for them). There's also the monster colosseum and other stuff.
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Dec 4, 2016 04:52
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mikeraskol posted:So can you ever go back to Altissia? I'm getting a prompt saying if I go forward with a question I'm done with the city, but there are still hunts here that I haven't done (and can't do because I'm a little bit low for them). There's also the monster colosseum and other stuff. Nothing is ever rendered inaccessible AFAIK, at worst you're cut off from stuff for a little.
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Dec 4, 2016 04:54
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Also please someone start a blog recreating these meals.
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Dec 4, 2016 04:55
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ImpAtom posted:Nothing is ever rendered inaccessible AFAIK, at worst you're cut off from stuff for a little. Ok, thanks. Also wow, at least up until around Chapter 10 this is basically incomprehensible. Oh I want the ring, let me just appear next to you, say give me the ring, then say nah nvm, stab you. Suddenly I'm on a train, everyone's mad at me. Why am I going down this mine? I have no idea. Gladiolus is super pissy with me. Why? Who knows!? What the gently caress is happening.
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Dec 4, 2016 04:55
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mikeraskol posted:Ok, thanks. Galdio is pissed that Noctis is moping and not really showing much concern for Ignis. Something that would be more meaningful if A) We loving saw Ignis get goddamn blinded, holy poo poo and B) We saw anything between the two moments to get the feeling that happened.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:03
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Tae posted:Anybody that wants a quick look at the versus13->ff15 announcement trailer, how much actually made it in? Well, everything in Altissia in that trailer was all CGI anyway. In the finished game, Leviathan still attacks Altissia along with the Empire, although of course it's not as pretty/involved That first trailer wasn't really even FF15 but it was more indicative of the state Versus was in during the time they decided to port the game to the PS4, by which I mean a bunch of CGI, a few areas/enemies and the basic battle system. We didn't get a first glimpse of FF15 as we know it until TGS the next year. ImpAtom posted:In this case it is because the plot isn't nonsense. It's actually a very straightforward plot just told very roughly. You can basically see the "INSERT CUTSCENE HERE" elements. Yeah. If anything, FFXV suffers first and foremost from a lack of quantity, and not a lack of quality. Of course this is all in my opinion, but I absolutely loved the story and the only times I was bothered by it was when the game sort of decided that stuff just happened and didn't feel the need to tell me about it. The most egregious example in my opinion is when Ravus gets executed. People also seem to have complaints about certain characters not being developed enough, which is again a problem with quantity and not quality, since often times those characters just aren't given enough screen time to get developed in the first place. Although I was still affected by Luna's death, mostly because I liked Noctis as a character and could empathize with his sorrow and also that loving Luna CGI scene after her death is just so goddamn gorgeous I was honestly floored by it. I also think there are some really good performances in this game by JRPG standards. I think Noctis is probably the best voiced Final Fantasy character ever. The scene at the end where Noctis and his friends are having one last campfire before the final battle is really good mostly because Noctis' VA does an incredible job in that scene, it's probably the best performance in a FF game. mikeraskol posted:Ok, thanks. Ardyn didn't want the ring himself, he wants Noctis to have the ring. Gladiolus is pissed at Noctis because he's moping around after Luna's death and won't put the drat ring on. And you're going down into the mine to get a Royal Weapon, I believe Ignis even tells you as much on the ride.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:03
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ImpAtom posted:Galdio is pissed that Noctis is moping and not really showing much concern for Ignis. Something that would be more meaningful if A) We loving saw Ignis get goddamn blinded, holy poo poo and B) We saw anything between the two moments to get the feeling that happened. Yeah A and B were basically the point I was making. The whole plot structure is just totally ridiculous and feels like they ran out of time and had just just go "ok what can we do with the scenes we have." I like this game but jesus christ. I still have no clue why I was on the train, why we stopped where we did or why I'm in this loving mine after just going super saiyan and battling Leviathan. quote:Ardyn didn't want the ring himself, he wants Noctis to have the ring. Gladiolus is pissed at Noctis because he's moping around after Luna's death and won't put the drat ring on. And you're going down into the mine to get a Royal Weapon, I believe Ignis even tells you as much on the ride. On the train Prompto mentioned something about hoping Noctis's ancestors hid their tombs in more friendly places, but that's a far cry from telling me that's why I'm here. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Dec 4, 2016 05:05
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mikeraskol posted:Yeah A and B were basically the point I was making. The whole plot structure is just totally ridiculous and feels like they ran out of time and had just just go "ok what can we do with the scenes we have." I like this game but jesus christ. I still have no clue why I was on the train, why we stopped where we did or why I'm in this loving mine after just going super saiyan and battling Leviathan. There was a kings arm there and you do still wanna catch em all
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Dec 4, 2016 05:07
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It's super annoying to me that the map marker doesn't disappear when I reach it. Seems like the game will place one when I select a quest to drive to and it doesn't go away for whatever reason.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:14
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Anyone know where to buy Fine Gighee Ham? I'm trying to make the +50% xp food in post game because some of this content is absurdly high level and I ended the game at 48 Vendor in Lestallum sells it Lakbay fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Dec 4, 2016 05:17
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This game is Xenoblade Chronicles X but infinitely more fun both games have tiny text though and I hate it
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Dec 4, 2016 05:18
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mikeraskol posted:On the train Prompto mentioned something about hoping Noctis's ancestors hid their tombs in more friendly places, but that's a far cry from telling me that's why I'm here. I agree that it's kind of abrupt. Also, it's not even exactly right that you're on the train to get the weapon from the tomb, it's more like you're just stopping off there because it's on the way to Gralea, the capital of the empire. Basically, you're taking the train to Gralea to get the crystal back from the empire, and on the way you're doing a few more stops to shore up your power. ImpAtom posted:Galdio is pissed that Noctis is moping and not really showing much concern for Ignis. Something that would be more meaningful if A) We loving saw Ignis get goddamn blinded, holy poo poo and B) We saw anything between the two moments to get the feeling that happened. I don't think we need to see Ignis get blinded, really. It's sort of doesn't matter how it happened. I actually feel like it works better as a reveal after Noctis wakes up than it would if it would've cut away from Noctis doing his thing against Leviathan to show Ignis getting cut in the face by a robot-man or whatever. But I do think that we could've definitely used some scenes after the reveal of Ignis' blindness and before Gladio get's pissed at Noctis showing Noctis being all "woe is me my girlfriend died", wallowing in his poo poo, and not giving a poo poo about Ignis. As it stands you just kind of gotta infer that's what's going on.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:22
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Stormgale posted:There was a kings arm there and you do still wanna catch em all It's kinda odd that you can beat the game without actually collecting them all. Like I think if you skip the optional ones you can go into the final battle with just 4 of 'em. Feels weird given how much their importance is stressed early on and how many missions there are based around them.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:24
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:It's kinda odd that you can beat the game without actually collecting them all. Like I think if you skip the optional ones you can go into the final battle with just 4 of 'em. Feels weird given how much their importance is stressed early on and how many missions there are based around them. Yeah, the other issue is that some of them are behind level 50 fights, which is just past what the enemies on the way to the final battle are Just another thing to add to the "No Follow through" Pile Stormgale fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Dec 4, 2016 05:26
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Mischitary posted:I agree that it's kind of abrupt. Also, it's not even exactly right that you're on the train to get the weapon from the tomb, it's more like you're just stopping off there because it's on the way to Gralea, the capital of the empire. Basically, you're taking the train to Gralea to get the crystal back from the empire, and on the way you're doing a few more stops to shore up your power. No, we really did. FFXV can kinda-sorta get away with "they weren't there so they don't need to see it" for a lot of the other stuff it glosses over but Ignis getting cripplingly injured really should be something we see. We have no idea how it happened and it feels incredibly arbitrary that Ignis got blinded without us seeing why. It's hard to really feel like it was an act with consequence and not a random plot fiat when we don't even see or hear of Ignis after the Leviathan scene starts. We get a ride from Prompto but Ignis is just Offscreen. If we saw it happen (or even better, if Ignis was injured doing something critical that helped Noctis) then the following segment would feel more like "aw, poo poo, this dude saved our rear end..." and not "Oh, christ, stop whining at me Gladiolus." I actually like the mine sequence in theory but the lack of context and buildup makes it hard to do anything but get sick of Gladiolus's poo poo. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Dec 4, 2016 05:30
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Reached chapter 10 tonight. It's starting to feel more and more like they deleted every other cutscene from the main story in order to get it out the door on time. I'm still pretty sure I get what's going on, but events and characters keep popping up as if I'm supposed to be familiar with them already and I'm learning way too much information from newspapers and radios a couple chapters after it happened.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:31
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Actually, something I recall that I'm not sure about: When Noctis gets Roused by someone, does that involve a permanent stat boost or just something temporary? I assume the latter but I realize I never checked.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:35
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Okay, the more time I put into this game the less I like it. Combat with multiple dudes is starting to make a little sense, but the very short enemy windups combined with the very long animations for all of your attacks other than with maybe daggers makes combat feel bad? Noctis feels very sluggish. And when you combine enemies that are very willing to gang up with your allies who you can't control and can't figure out how to avoid being ganged up on, basically any difficult fight ends up with them either dying a lot or you spamming a lot of potions. I'd say they feel worse than donald and goofy, but it's been a long time since I played that game so I could be wrong. It's hard to keep playing this game when I remember how good lightning returns was and how Dragon's Dogma is basically this game but better, combat-wise. I really think people are being very easy on this game because it's a mainline FF game that doesn't instantly reveal that it's poo poo.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:41
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Trick Question posted:Okay, the more time I put into this game the less I like it. Combat with multiple dudes is starting to make a little sense, but the very short enemy windups combined with the very long animations for all of your attacks other than with maybe daggers makes combat feel bad? Noctis feels very sluggish. And when you combine enemies that are very willing to gang up with your allies who you can't control and can't figure out how to avoid being ganged up on, basically any difficult fight ends up with them either dying a lot or you spamming a lot of potions. I'd say they feel worse than donald and goofy, but it's been a long time since I played that game so I could be wrong. Combat against multiple enemies is something where you really have to approach it differently. What you should be doing is warping in, attacking, and warping out. You should basically be looking for chances to Backside Attack, in, hit it, out, over and over. Noctis excels at hit-and-run and the game really expects you to spam Warp Sword. That and using Magic to thin out numbers but I won't blame you for not using magic because I didn't like it either.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:44
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Is there no way to make the lock on a toggle as opposed to something I have to hold?
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Dec 4, 2016 05:45
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I guess I'm weird, I've spent 13 hours and I'm still in chapter 1
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Dec 4, 2016 05:45
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I guess I'm weird, I've spent 13 hours and I'm still in chapter 1 No, that isn't' weird at all. The bulk of most of your game time is going to be spent in chapters 1-4. Basically once you decide to move on from Chapter 4 (probably at like level 60) you'll probably ride it right to the endgame and then go back to do stuff in the post-game.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:47
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Skeezy posted:Is there no way to make the lock on a toggle as opposed to something I have to hold? In control scheme C, R1 while holding L1 toggles lock-on. Not sure what the other schemes are but it's probably the map button while holding the lock-on button
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Dec 4, 2016 05:47
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Skeezy posted:Is there no way to make the lock on a toggle as opposed to something I have to hold? I think I've heard to click in R3 while locking on. But imo with the combat system as it is I don't spend too long locked on to any one same point anyway.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:47
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Just finished chapter 9. God drat did the story just take a HUGE nosedive. That was so dumb. We already lost Regis who we as players didn't really know (Unless you watch Kingsglaive I guess, even then) and then when we finally meet up with Luna, we can't even see her before she's dead? This is dumb. They even give you a dialogue option "I demand to see Luna" and they're like 'nah can't do it you'll just have to see her later' so of course she dies before you even get to speak with her. This is a dumb undeserved death. Just kicking the player while they're down here. I guess they're going for a tragic story for Noctis, or maybe she'll come back in the end or something, but that whole scene just felt really weird and dumb and rushed (like this whole story lol) In FF7 everybody cared about Aeris' death because she was a party member, she talked a lot, she had a personality, you got to see her change a bit and talk about her past, and then when you got used to her, she was gone. Here we just meet Luna and then WELP. Its like a joke. Its almost funny, like yeah of course she's dead, because videogames. Then then whole boss fight was also garbage. They were so busy making the epic city battle they didn't worry about how nonsensical it was (can't we just fight leviathan over in the nearby lake or something instead?) and then Luna gets stabbed by Ardyn which comes out of nowhere and we have no control over, and then you can't even process that because you're back to fighting. And unlike Titan which was fun, its not even a proper boss fight. Most of it is QTEs that only involve the circle button, O O O O over and over like the dumbest QTEs that make god of war look deep, and then there's a sequence where you have full-on god mode and it just goes on way to loving long. I actually thought my game was bugged or I was doing something wrong, but nope. The fight just takes like 5 loving minutes of repetitive poo poo, and there's no strategy or danger because you're just god-mode the whole time. WHY. Okay the good bits; the city was beautiful fantasy-Venice, meeting the Mayor lady and having that negotiation was pretty fun and okay writing (not great but not bad), and after Luna passes, the scene where Noct just walks to the boat and you see Gladio talking to him but its all muted and you can't hear anything, that was very well done and gives the previous death some otherwise completely lacking emotional impact. Also the handling of summons in this game is pretty hosed. I have Ramuh and Titan, got Titan first, but have cast Ramuh twice and Titan no times. Then I have to fight Leviathan, why don't I just summon Ramuh or Titan? Can't. Because plot. And then you summon Titan at the end in a cutscene. Couldn't summon him earlier because... drama. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Dec 4, 2016 05:48
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learn your weapons moveset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw4bagA0k5g
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Dec 4, 2016 05:49
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ImpAtom posted:No, we really did. FFXV can kinda-sorta get away with "they weren't there so they don't need to see it" for a lot of the other stuff it glosses over but Ignis getting cripplingly injured really should be something we see. We have no idea how it happened and it feels incredibly arbitrary that Ignis got blinded without us seeing why. It's hard to really feel like it was an act with consequence and not a random plot fiat when we don't even see or hear of Ignis after the Leviathan scene starts. We get a ride from Prompto but Ignis is just Offscreen. I think I just disagree with you here. I mean, they were all basically in a warzone, so it wasn't too hard for me to believe that one of them could easily get injured. I'm not going to go so far as to say I would've liked it a lot less if there was a scene showing, as you say, Ignis doing some crucial thing to help Noctis and getting wounded over it, but I don't think it would've made me feel more sympathetic to Ignis or make the scene where Gladio gets upset at Noctis have more weight. Like I said previously, I actually like that they kept it as a surprise reveal. They basically set up Ignis' losing his sight to be a sort of parallel loss to Noctis losing Luna, and Ignis' blindness getting revealed directly after Noctis wakes up crying over Luna's death emphasizes this. To me it's not supposed to be about how much Ignis has sacrificed for Noctis in particular, at least not entirely so, but more about how Ignis has also lost something important, and therefore the exact circumstances of Ignis' getting blinded doesn't seem so crucial to me.
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Eh. I like it because it has charm for days. I dig the combat and music and overall story (even if it's rough in spots). I'd be fine with a leaner, connect-the-dots story if it was more consistently that, and I think the combat should be explained better (the gap between beginner and intermediate is significant), but for my bit I'm not giving it a pass due to the series. Are some folks? Probably, that's a reasonable take.
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Dec 4, 2016 05:53
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drat, this game started to hit the feels button real hard.
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So uh, do you ever get to buy any more outfits or do you only have the 4 tepid options? Also, am I missing something? I'm level 22 and I'm fighting level 17 crabs, for instance, but Noctis keeps getting hit from full health down to danger mode. I'd use a hi-potion but it hasn't even been 10 seconds and I'm back in danger and this I need an elixer... it's also kinda hard to avoid getting hit when you are surrounded by them too and the lack of a lock-on toggle is annoying when it constantly shifts targeting from enemy to enemy and the blindside I was going for suddenly becomes an attempt to hit a monster in the face only to have said monster kill me.
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