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Considering the hellcat had to have come from the states, it was probably the only one measuring with a 3.78 liter gallon. In the US, the DB9 is rated 13 city 19 highway, the rolls 12 city 19 highway, and the auto hellcat 13 city 22 highway. 21 imperial MPG is 17.49 US mpg. Stop looking for facts in an entertainment show known for bashing american cars for entertainment dummies.
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projecthalaxy posted:It kinda reminds me of the time they had the original Tesla on and said it had a 50 mile range and broke down immediately, then Tesla sued them and they admitted it was an "exaggeration". I just watched that one tonight actually. The overall tone of it was about 80% "this is actually pretty great", and the mechanical issues洋ade up or not謡ere just sort of tossed in at the end (probably in order to make May's segment later on the Honda FCX Clarity look better by comparison, probably because they were keener to suck up to Leno than Elon Musk). In context you really don't get the sense that they're trying to gratuitously bash Tesla, just that an electric Elise comes across as a kind of weird idea despite being pretty good. Not sure whether my point is that Tesla was being whiny babies or that Clarkson is a charlatan, probably "a little of both and if you expected any differently from either one you're a fool".
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And here I thought the customized Renault Clio blaring Black Eyed Peas would be the most annoying thing I'd ever see in Piazzale Michelangelo. At least they didn't get permission to do it in Venice, too.
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Powershift posted:Stop looking for facts in an entertainment show known for bashing american cars for entertainment dummies. The part where Clarkson taps on the interior of American cars and calls it cheap/tacky got a lot funnier after I drove an 05 Mini.
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You know, I rather liked the color of Clarkson's DB11. Calling it "brown" was a rather uncharitable dramatization.
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8ender posted:How is the 6mpg number even being disputed? It's a 700hp supercharged car that was being romped on the entire trip including a session of track driving. What is wrong with you people GutBomb posted:Some people really dislike fun.
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I don't dislike fun. It was a fun episode. I liked it.
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Pham Nuwen posted:The part where Clarkson taps on the interior of American cars and calls it cheap/tacky got a lot funnier after I drove an 05 Mini. But really, while I don't mind a more basic interior (the Zoe is quite plasticky), it's very noticeable in a lot of American cars because - like the Mini - you kind of feel it's pretending to be better quality, rather than being honest about it being an area where costs have been saved in order to meet the actually very good price points the US has for new cars. The worst thing (and I've seen this in plenty of non-American brands, again Mini being a prime offender) is silver plastic. No, you're not fooling anyone, it's not aluminium, it just looks really tacky. Please use plain black plastic and be done with it.
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InitialDave posted:Well, BMW Mini interiors are shocking too. Go sit in a 2017 Toyota yaris stitched leather dash I poo poo you not
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Preoptopus posted:Go sit in a 2017 Toyota yaris stitched leather dash I poo poo you not Stitched leather? Or stitched plastic a la the last two generations of the civic?
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Preoptopus posted:Go sit in a 2017 Toyota yaris stitched leather dash I poo poo you not 
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Have they actually sold any of those things?
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Is the regulation that you have to sell them or make them?
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Data Graham posted:Have they actually sold any of those things? When the model was dropped Autocar reported 143 sold in the UK over two years: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/aston-martin-cygnet-axed The estimate on Wiki is under 300 worldwide. I think I recall at one point they were expected to be a mandatory purchase for someone wanting to buy one of the really high end models, I don't recall if that ever went anywhere. If not then really the only markets I can think of are people who have enough money to not give a gently caress and either legitimately want a city car or want to troll their children by saying they'll get them an Aston Martin for birthday/christmas/graduation whatever and then giving them this leather-wrapped Toyota.
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It only exists because the law requires their entire range to have an average fuel economy. So if they want their DB11 to get 15mpg, they need another vehicle that gets 60mpg or whatever to bring the average up.
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I spoke to someone who was at the Loch Ness filming and they said they filmed stuff for two episodes there? Sounds a bit odd to me maybe they misheard.
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wolrah posted:If not then really the only markets I can think of are people who have enough money to not give a gently caress and either legitimately want a city car or want to troll their children by saying they'll get them an Aston Martin for birthday/christmas/graduation whatever and then giving them this leather-wrapped Toyota. On the other hand, I suspect they're one of these oddities that will be an unusual but worthwhile investment car, and worth a decent amount in a few decades.
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Deteriorata posted:You know, I rather liked the color of Clarkson's DB11. Calling it "brown" was a rather uncharitable dramatization. They called the Kia brown, too. I don't really understand it, either.
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And the Rolls was Grey apparently?
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Data Graham posted:Have they actually sold any of those things? I've seen one in the garage of my parents' building.
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Data Graham posted:Have they actually sold any of those things? There's 144 on the road according to https://howmanyleft.co.uk, plus however many were sold abroad.
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Cojawfee posted:It only exists because the law requires their entire range to have an average fuel economy. So if they want their DB11 to get 15mpg, they need another vehicle that gets 60mpg or whatever to bring the average up. Which country had the law? And is it weighted average of distance/fuel or fuel/distance (which conceivably makes more sense)?
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It was EU fleet average emissions regulations, not fuel mileage and it did depend on sales volume. This article from 2010 says they expected to sell many more than they actually did. http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/cygnet-key-astons-future GutBomb fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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I've always wanted on with a turbo on it. The most adorable race car.
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angryhampster posted:On a side note -- what are the best TGUS episodes? I never got hooked on the show. A lot of the episodes were dull but there were some good ones as well. Whenever they made the switch from a TGUK copy to just doing "3 guys driving around in cars" is when it got pretty decent. By the end, I found myself enjoying pretty much every episode. Sure, Tanner "wins" every competition, because who's going to let the other two drive a million dollar supercar, but that's fine. I found myself laughing just about as much as I would watching a classic TGUK episode. I actually feel kinda bad, because I really ripped on TGUS in the first couple seasons, then didn't give it much of a chance until the last season or so, when I went back and watched the newer format episodes, and realised I'd been missing out on a pretty entertaining show. And of course, History Channel cans it just as they're hitting their stride. Edit: The Rubicon Trail episode of the final season is probably one of their best episodes. The final episode, in Cuba, is also quite good. JBark fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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GutBomb posted:It was EU fleet average emissions regulations, not fuel mileage and it did depend on sales volume. I think if you ordered a DBS you had to buy a cygnet too, you didnt have a choice in the matter. They presented it as some kind of "preorder bonus"
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I'm so excited. As my brother called it, the most riveting, fascinating boring show ever.
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JBark posted:Whenever they made the switch from a TGUK copy to just doing "3 guys driving around in cars" is when it got pretty decent. By the end, I found myself enjoying pretty much every episode. Sure, Tanner "wins" every competition, because who's going to let the other two drive a million dollar supercar, but that's fine. I found myself laughing just about as much as I would watching a classic TGUK episode. Seasons one and two had their moments, but yeah I'd say 3+ are all pretty excellent.
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GutBomb posted:Some people really dislike fun. Maybe I'm an unrepentant prole, but GT episode 3 is now one of my favorites, ever.
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JBark posted:Whenever they made the switch from a TGUK copy to just doing "3 guys driving around in cars" is when it got pretty decent. To some extent they never got away from being a TGUK copy because even after they dropped the studio audience, siarpc, etc, they still culled a good chunk of their challenges from Top GearUK. Still though I'll always have a soft spot for TGUS because they filmed the semi challenge ten miles from my home town, and that was neat.
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Preoptopus posted:So does whitby have good fish and fries?
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blk posted:The new episode is much better but the material and jokes just don't seem as good as they were in TG; the flow of the show seems really disjointed. Did they lose a key writer in the transition or something? I did much prefer GTs in Italy to the other stuff, but the Hammond thing was totally overwrought. I would also like to know more about the cars, even though they don't have the "provide product reviews" mandate from the BBC anymore. I very much agree. I feel like the grumpy guy in the corner thinking about the good old days, but it very much seems like the 3 have too much of a hand in everything. The name of the show is medicore at best (the logo is crap), the intro seems like it's out of a nat geo show from 2005. I don't even know what the hell they're attempting "drivetribe", the name alone is cringe. The cinematography to this point is no better, and so far the writing/gags are not really working for me (though to be fair even top gear would often be wayyyyy to scripted). I will give it the benefit of the doubt by saying they are probably not allowed to do a bunch of stuff that goes back to the "good old days" due to the BBC. I've got to say I think the 2nd episode was the one I enjoyed the most, maybe since it just wasn't so prediactable? I dunno. Maybe I've just grown out of the top gear schtick. To me, I see in 10 years down the road one of the trio will write a book and say "Amazon gave us unlimited money and the reigns and we realized we didn't know what we were doing". That's what it feels like to me, so far nothing is "better" and I hope no one at amazon is wondering what all the money is being spent on (aside from travel). I don't know anything about the business side of things, but I would guess netflix is breathing a sigh of relief.
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InitialDave posted:No, it has fish and chips. But yes, it's a fishing town in the north of England. They're decent. Do you buy it in snack bars or on the sidewalk?
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Like little walk up restaurant things. Best fish n chips in the world are in Edinburgh, though.
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Nah, the best fish'n'chips are in Mallaig, right by the station. Freshest possible fish, and godlike chips. So. loving. Good.
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