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Guessing this is the closest thing we have to a Dead Rising 4 thread? My review is embargoed for another 10 hours, but I can say without breaking anything that I am very loving interested in seeing the general reaction people will have to this game.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:Guessing this is the closest thing we have to a Dead Rising 4 thread? That doesn't sound encouraging.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:My review is embargoed for another 10 hours, but I can say without breaking anything that I am very loving interested in seeing the general reaction people will have to this game. Yeah, mine too.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:Guessing this is the closest thing we have to a Dead Rising 4 thread? (Probably the latter, but I think the former would be more interesting.)
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Dec 5, 2016 02:57
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To be honest "people are going to have a strong response to this" is at least interesting.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:Guessing this is the closest thing we have to a Dead Rising 4 thread? Post your review here when you can. It sounds like this game will be a hilarious trainwreck.
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Dec 5, 2016 03:02
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hey maybe frank will appear in the new MVC, even if this new game is hot garbo.
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Dec 5, 2016 03:17
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There's a number of people playing it on twitch already, gamefaqs also has threads with impressions/spoilers.
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GenericMartini posted:hey maybe frank will appear in the new MVC, even if this new game is hot garbo. He'll probably be the lame new Frank though. 
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GenericMartini posted:hey maybe frank will appear in the new MVC, even if this new game is hot garbo. The short version: it isn't a complete disaster, but it also isn't the kind of experience that you'd come to this franchise to get, especially since I've been playing the recent DR remasters. There are things I like about DR4, quite a few things I don't, and some things that don't need to be here at all. It might be a fun rental. I need to get some MP matches in, though.
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Yeah looking at some Twitch streams it definitely looks they went pretty hard into the generic AAA sandbox mold. Some of those new combo weapons look fun though.
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Wanderer posted:The short version: it isn't a complete disaster, but it also isn't the kind of experience that you'd come to this franchise to get, especially since I've been playing the recent DR remasters. There are things I like about DR4, quite a few things I don't, and some things that don't need to be here at all. This. It isn't an unenjoyable experience at all. But the specifics of it will likely divide the fanbase forever.
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It seems weird to try with the fourth game to get more people into it. Playing not to your base seems like a bad idea, especially if the game is bad.
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Dec 5, 2016 04:58
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GenericMartini posted:It seems weird to try with the fourth game to get more people into it. Playing not to your base seems like a bad idea, especially if the game is bad. I think the console exclusivity hurt it more than anything else.
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Dec 5, 2016 05:01
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That's really weird since the first DR was a console exclusive and did decently well.
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GenericMartini posted:That's really weird since the first DR was a console exclusive and did decently well.
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GenericMartini posted:That's really weird since the first DR was a console exclusive and did decently well. Did it? How come Capcom washed off their hands off it and gave it to Blue Castle games then? Granted they did a good job but its still odd Capcom would just out source a popular franchise, especially a new one.
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Dec 5, 2016 05:13
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it was a Inafune game and I think he left around 2010 with his last project being Megaman Legends, which explains why it took them a long time to get to another Dead Rising. They then killed Legends 3 and then outsourced DR.
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Alteisen posted:Did it? How come Capcom washed off their hands off it and gave it to Blue Castle games then? Granted they did a good job but its still odd Capcom would just out source a popular franchise, especially a new one. Dead Rising 2 was part of Keiji Inafune's attempt to bring Western developers onto Japanese IPs. They didn't 'wash their hands' of it, it was the same as a lot of their other projects.
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I totally forgot that Inafune really had a hard on for Western Devs.
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GenericMartini posted:I totally forgot that Inafune really had a hard on for Western Devs. A hard-on for combined with a staggeringly awful track record. Dark Void, Bionic Commando, Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z, Lost Planet 3, DmC, ReCore... the only success he had was DR2 honestly, but that's because he kept going back to the same wells.
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Lost Planet 3 could have been good if it wasn't forced to be a prequel to Lost Planet 1. The narrative is actually rather solid and unique until the main villains from the first game pop up and ruin it all by being cartoonishly evil in a game where any antagonists before hand are treated as misguided or good people just trying protect their loved ones. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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GenericMartini posted:I totally forgot that Inafune really had a hard on for Western Devs. He's not exactly wrong to be so. He's right in that the Japanese development community's got some challenges recently, but he'd do well to get somebody else to go talent-hunting for him. It seems like Blue Castle was his only real, unqualified success. GenericMartini posted:It seems weird to try with the fourth game to get more people into it. Playing not to your base seems like a bad idea, especially if the game is bad. Video game marketing 101: your "base" for a franchise is good for marketing, word of mouth, and building a community. Your profit comes from the vast, silent majority, or what enthusiasts refer to as the "casual" market. Most of the decisions made in DR4 are for the casual market, and they're hoping to satisfy the enthusiast crowd with the story mode and continuity porn.
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I mean that's kinda funny seeing as didn't DR2 sell better than DR3 and OTR? two games that tried to gain that casual market with more emphasis on freedom and less emphasis on the time limit (in OTR's case having a full mode for people to dick around in without the constraints of the time limit)
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GenericMartini posted:I mean that's kinda funny seeing as didn't DR2 sell better than DR3 and OTR? two games that tried to gain that casual market with more emphasis on freedom and less emphasis on the time limit (in OTR's case having a full mode for people to dick around in without the constraints of the time limit) DR2 sold 2.2 million; DR3 sold 1.9 million when you combine the Xbox One and Steam versions. DR3 was also an Xbox One launch title, and I believe was the best-selling one of the lot, while DR2 was cross-platform at launch and received a fairly robust marketing push. It's a bit of an apples-and-oranges situation overall, due to external circumstances. It's a tricky situation. On the one hand, triple-A video game production is so expensive and time-consuming at this point that I can't begrudge anyone for wanting to minimize their personal risk; there have been a lot of games, studios, and developers that have failed, closed, or been fired because they were only modest successes, which meant they still lost money. On the other, there's never going to be no risk, and I can't think of a game offhand that was improved by being designed by committee, or for having additional executive-decreed, focus-tested features wedged into it like an elephant into an elevator car.
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Sounds increasingly like something I'd pick up once it comes to Steam a few months from now at a heavy discount. I enjoyed Dead Rising 3 enough even though it already lost a lot of the elements I loved about Dead Rising 1, 2 and Off the Record but 4 seems to have stripped away the remaining elements of the series. Like I don't give a gently caress about Frank if it's a different voice actor, he acts completely differently than before and all sense of player urgency is removed.
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Spoilers are loose in the wild, so if you're worried about those, now would be a good time for a comms blackout. Some rear end in a top hat put a big one on Frank's page on the DR Wikia.
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Right, embargo is over. ATTENTION, HERE BE SPOILERS. My video review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAtpRni8QYc My written review: http://www.doyouevengamebro.net/dead-rising-4-review/ In short, I liked it for what it was - but it isn't a classic Dead Rising game. Not at all. No how. No way. If anyone has questions they want answered, I am around for the next hour or so.
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I'm sorry I just can't get over that They've cut out Overtime, made it DLC, and the DLC is just DR1's Overtime mode! Look at the description for it, it's just DR1 Overtime but you have to pay for it!
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Onmi posted:I'm sorry I just can't get over that They've cut out Overtime, made it DLC, and the DLC is just DR1's Overtime mode! Look at the description for it, it's just DR1 Overtime but you have to pay for it!  Screw that then.
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just saw the ending on youtube, it's pretty drat bad Devoured by zombies after killing a sentient zombie king. Frank's Back! And now watch him die an agonizing death!
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RBA Starblade posted:
So ending spoilers, because seriously what the ACTUAL gently caress Vancouver. Frank and Posse run to the Helecopter, Frank leaps and grabs onto it, the Zombies, which are now of course the Super Fast zombies loving UNITE LADDER to dog pile Frank who lets go and gets eaten. Then the side characters literally poo poo on Frank in the ending calling him a glory hound who made poo poo up and did it for the fame. This is, as far as spoilers have made clear, the only ending. The DLC Frank Rising, is this. And I'm not spoiling it because they've released its descriptions, but tell me if this doesn't sound Familiar. quote:In this DLC, Frank West is freshly infected and needs to find a cure before he becomes a zombie and is lost forever. While searching for a cure, Frank discovers that everything is not the same as it was; zombies are getting smarter, people cannot be trusted and paramilitary forces are plotting to wipe out Willamette. Frank has a limited time before he reverts to the full zombie state and the city is wiped out. Frank will have to get to the truth first… or die trying.
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Sounds like "Get it but wait for a massive sale" kinda game.
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Backhand posted:Sounds like "Get it but wait for a massive sale" kinda game. YEAH
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Onmi posted:So ending spoilers, because seriously what the ACTUAL gently caress Vancouver. lmao So with 4 is the idea that you're in the whole Willamette town this time? Do you go to the mall at all?
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The gameplay looks interesting but holy poo poo, no survivors? That was basically my saving grace after the time limit was gone. And that ending, God I want this game to be good and this series to not die but gently caress this game screams buy it on sale.
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This all sounds like DR4 is the Hitman: Absolution of Dead Rising. And like Hitman, the Dead Rising franchise's only hope is a full-stop reboot back to square one but with better graphics and quality-of-life stuff.
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Yeah I love the series, but I am going to skip this one. I would at least tolate the changes if they kept Frank's VA the same, but it just Frank in name only now.
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King Vidiot posted:This all sounds like DR4 is the Hitman: Absolution of Dead Rising. And like Hitman, the Dead Rising franchise's only hope is a full-stop reboot back to square one but with better graphics and quality-of-life stuff. Given Capcom, I feel this is Dead Rising's last ride. RIP.
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