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A Pale Horse posted:I am a bad slav apparently because I'm not a big fan of buckwheat on its own or as a side dish. I do like it in a nice kaszanka every once in a while though. What I hope people do is start organising gay pride parades every week to exhaust resources.
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Another fun thing they're doing is initiating "investigations" into mayors of large cities they don't control. Nearly every non-PiS mayor of a major city is in the crosshairs of the Central Anticorruption Agency and there are open investigations against all of them. They're also trying to discredit and imprison former Solidarity heroes like Jozef Pinior who was arrested this week also on (very likely) trumped up corruption charges if they have been supporting and protecting Walesa instead of denouncing his as a communist agent and pretending that the Duckman brothers are the real heroes of Solidarity. Also they're screwing with the tax free income limits and have raised it from 3700 zl to over 6000... but only for people making less than 11,000 zl a year which is well below the poverty line. Of course they raised it to 30,000 zl for MPs and when asked about the discrepancy justified it by saying MPs deserve it because they work very hard. 
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dex_sda posted:What I hope people do is start organising gay pride parades every week to exhaust resources. I only used gay parades as an example because its probably a strategy the church will use going forward, but there are even more malevolent ways to use this new law. For instance, spontaneous or planned demonstrations against government malfeasance can be legally outlawed at any time by quickly getting 10 people together and saying its a government sanctioned public gathering that happens to be taking place at the same place and time. They can use it to shut down groups like KOD or Black Protest or essentially any opposition because now they always have preference and can designate anything a government sponsored march.
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How is the EU going to react to this? It's a pretty big step towards abolishing freedom of assembly completely.
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A Pale Horse posted:MPs deserve it because they work very hard.
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This country is loving poo poo
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:How is the EU going to react to this? It's a pretty big step towards abolishing freedom of assembly completely. I'm sure the EU will react negatively and PiS will tell them to gently caress off because "muh sovereignty" and PiS' electorate will look like that meme of the ecstatic guy because they told those Eurofaggots to gently caress off and their support will rise 5 points.
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I wish Merkel would nut up and just cut all funding to Poland and Hungary already
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Forums Terrorist posted:I wish Merkel would nut up and just cut all funding to Poland and Hungary already I don't disagree with the sentiment because gently caress PiSsy Poland, but it's not something Germany can actually decide alone, fortunately.
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Cat Mattress posted:I don't disagree with the sentiment because gently caress PiSsy Poland, but it's not something Germany can actually decide alone, fortunately.
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Cat Mattress posted:I don't disagree with the sentiment because gently caress PiSsy Poland, but it's not something Germany can actually decide alone, fortunately. It was extremely cool when, after cheering on the dismembering of Greece, the EE states got a dose of it when they threw a tantrum about brown people and Germany threatened to withhold EU money if they didn't take refugees in.
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The problem is that if you give the EU the authority to enforce basic human rights like freedom of assembly, they could one day abuse this power to enforce the human rights of brown people.
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Half of Europe steered hard right lately. Sanctions against Poland and Hungary won't have any effect on those countries' ruling parties, maybe except turning them away from the idea of some common liberal EU mindset.
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Had to check if the notanazi or the green candidate won in Austria, but the election is on sunday. Being 2016, my money is on the notanazi candidate, since this annualis horribilis wont loving end.
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alex314 posted:Half of Europe steered hard right lately. Sanctions against Poland and Hungary won't have any effect on those countries' ruling parties, maybe except turning them away from the idea of some common liberal EU mindset. The duckman is smart enough to realize that the EU is completely toothless and he can do what he wants and they won't do poo poo about because Hungary has veto power over any real meaningful sanctions and Duckman and Orban already promised each other to veto any attempts by the EU to curtail or punish them. And you're right, they'll just play it up for more anti western propaganda of evil gay germans and drug addled dutch trying to impose their degenerate will on plucky little Catholic Poland.
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Can we seriously just give hungary and poland a choice between being in soviet union 2.0 or being a western democracy? Like, these are your two options, either stop sliding towards a putin-style dictatorship or we'll toss you in with your own kind?
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Baronjutter posted:Can we seriously just give hungary and poland a choice between being in soviet union 2.0 or being a western democracy? Like, these are your two options, either stop sliding towards a putin-style dictatorship or we'll toss you in with your own kind? Kinda hosed up
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Rinkles posted:Kinda hosed up no it's kinda hosed up that we pay these terrible governments lip service, especially when being socialist gets you the curbstomp ala Greece/Portugal
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You have to weight the fact that sanctions will cause all reasonable people to GTFO, which will gently caress Poland for a generation or two. I don't want to see my country fail only because some loving old little fart lied his way into relevancy for the last time before he kicks the bucket.
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Rinkles posted:Kinda hosed up That countries would be allowed to shirk their basic commitments and obligations with no repercussions? It's not a solution, but the Hungary / Poland style authoritarianism can't be allowed to just slide.
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alex314 posted:You have to weight the fact that sanctions will cause all reasonable people to GTFO, which will gently caress Poland for a generation or two. I don't want to see my country fail only because some loving old little fart lied his way into relevancy for the last time before he kicks the bucket. Attach the sanctions to the government responsible, make it clear you'll happily remove them as soon as said government are gone. Do Poland and Hungary have fixed term limits? if not they'll have a serious problem on their hands.
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Can't be tied to government. No institution should have the authority to interfere in selecting a country's representatives. If anything, any sanctions must be tied to specific laws and policies in violation of international treaties.
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There are limits for president, but he's mainly representative. As for parliament there's still 3 years but the polls of lovely right wing rag (Gazeta Polska) give PiS 34%, while PO and Nowoczesna have 36% combined. A lot of people wake up to see the lovely state the country turns out. Who knows, maybe there will even be earlier elections.. Now if only 2016 would claim Duckman..
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Baronjutter posted:Can we seriously just give hungary and poland a choice between being in soviet union 2.0 or being a western democracy? Like, these are your two options, either stop sliding towards a putin-style dictatorship or we'll toss you in with your own kind? We should strike a deal with Putin. Give Crimea back to Ukraine and get your thugs out of Donbass, and in exchange we give you Poland and Hungary.
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Church is holding mass in all the voting stations, no room for elections, gotta have to cancel them for now
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Cat Mattress posted:We should strike a deal with Putin. Give Crimea back to Ukraine and get your thugs out of Donbass, and in exchange we give you Poland and Hungary. It's actually just a bluff to get those countries to smarten the gently caress up.
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The only person in the world that can tell them to wise up is the next president of USA 
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alex314 posted:The only person in the world that can tell them to wise up is the next president of USA 
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AceRimmer posted:And he's going to trade them for a
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"Just spoke to President of Bosnia, Milorad Dodik, terrific guy!" quote:He said his office has been in contact with Trump's campaign for some time now and that talks are in progress for a high-level RS delegation, possibly including RS President Milorad Dodik, to attend the new president’s inauguration in January. - See more at: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/renewed-lobbying-hopes-for-bosnian-serbs-11-15-2016#sthash.POB9graB.dpuf
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solidarity is indirectly responsible for the rise of the kaczynskis so jaruzelski did nothing wrong when you think about it
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steinrokkan posted:Can't be tied to government. No institution should have the authority to interfere in selecting a country's representatives. If anything, any sanctions must be tied to specific laws and policies in violation of international treaties. just bring back the brezhnev doctrine but for western democracy and tolerance &c. the philosophical backing is "gently caress you we have nukes", lmao if you think the forces of regression have the same qualms
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Forums Terrorist posted:just bring back the brezhnev doctrine but for western democracy and tolerance &c. Yup, withholding perks of a treaty because of violations of foundational principles of the same treaty, is the same as rolling into the streets in tanks.
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A Pale Horse posted:Another fun thing they're doing is initiating "investigations" into mayors of large cities they don't control. Nearly every non-PiS mayor of a major city is in the crosshairs of the Central Anticorruption Agency and there are open investigations against all of them. They're also trying to discredit and imprison former Solidarity heroes like Jozef Pinior who was arrested this week also on (very likely) trumped up corruption charges if they have been supporting and protecting Walesa instead of denouncing his as a communist agent and pretending that the Duckman brothers are the real heroes of Solidarity. Pinior got released after the court refused the prosecution's application to have him remanded in custody, citing lack of evidence. That judge had some serious balls, because I can guarantee that vindictive little prick Ziobro is going to transfer her to a backwater court in some bumfuck hole in podkarpackie.
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Something for my fellow Polish speakers. I may be late to the party, but I just found these on youtube and they are loving hilarious. Very Sealab 2021. I've watched like ten of them so far and they're all pretty much great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtrJ4Esk3DE
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A Pale Horse posted:Something for my fellow Polish speakers. I speak no Polish and all I caught was some даубстеп, дискотех, and something that sounded vaguely like ебать but probably wasn't.
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A Pale Horse posted:Something for my fellow Polish speakers. Dem is the only good polish youtuber
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anatoliy pltkrvkay posted:I speak no Polish and all I caught was some даубстеп, дискотех, and something that sounded vaguely like ебать but probably wasn't. I looked it up: the Polish equivalent is jebać, pronounced approximately like ебач. Also, shouldn't the phrase "15 minut pózniej na Dyskotekowej Planecie" be dechiperable?
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A Su 33 crashed attempting to land on the Admiral Kuznetsov according to Russian media. This is the second Russian plane to crash in the Mediterranean. https://lenta.ru/news/2016/12/05/su33/ quote:The Defense Ministry confirmed the death of the fighter Su-33 at the time of landing on an aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" in the Mediterranean Sea. This "Lente.ru" According to the press service of the department. The pilot ejected, his health is not threatened.
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