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Also $50 is ridiculous for a remaster of a game that was a minor cult hit at best.
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precision posted:so that Grasshopper/Suda51/Akira Yamaoko F2P roguelike soulslike ended up being actually really good so far, really surprising
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haveblue posted:Also $50 is ridiculous for a remaster of a game that was a minor cult hit at best. Gotta pay the Duke Tax Baby. Blow it out your rear end!
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In Training posted:I started MMX over and beat Penguin Man and its night and loving day with the dash + jump boosting through every level and not giving a crap about enemies. This game is amazing now, why in the world do they hide this ability in one of the stages?? That said, the game is still completable without the dash boots, there is a password that starts you off with chill penguin beaten and no boots, which are normally impossible to get past without taking. Mmx is also supremely satisfying to beat doing buster only or lemons only runs. Hi I'm randy pitchford, watch me run my formerly successful company into a cliff face like a rocket-powered car.
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MMF Freeway posted:Many remakes of games that were already available on steam offer at least a discount for owner's of the previous version. Also, high profile remakes like bioshock and skyrim that just came out were given for free to those who already had the old versions. Oh well I didn't know that about Bioshock/Skyrim, that's pretty cool. I guess I was wrong
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Randy pitchford is a terrifyingly bad businessperson.
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Captain Invictus posted:Randy pitchford is a terrifyingly bad businessperson. How can you say that after Battleborn?
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I've seen Battleborn on sale around here for £3, that's epic failure price.
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Bad Seafood posted:Saw some footage that half-sold me on it, but I don't have an online subscription so I dunno whether or not that would neuter the experience since it seems to have some online elements. you dont need PS+ for f2p games or games with a separate subscription like ff14
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Captain Invictus posted:Randy pitchford is a terrifyingly bad businessperson. Was he always the boss, like, back in the Opposing Fronts days or even just the BIA ones? Only heard of him during Borderlands marketing.
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I don't know what Randy's supposed to do about it. Wave his hand and give coupons to everyone who already bought the game while flipping off the people who made the remastered version with his other? That screenshot is of one person asking a question and getting an answer, then another person getting huffy about the answer and implying that not giving special discounts will tank sales. Just another entitled person on the internet complaining about how things are cheap enough even while they identify themselves with the icon from a games distributor known for having the largest and most widespread sales in the market. If you can't wait to buy Bulletstorm a second time until the inevitable 70% discount, I don't know what to tell you. e: If people wanted Bulletstorm for free they should have bought Battleborn. The Duke's golden voice is going to claw them back into the black. LawfulWaffle fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Can we work on a literal meaning for the word "soulslike"?
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Jay Rust posted:Can we work on a literal meaning for the word "soulslike"? melee attacks on triggers.
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Jay Rust posted:Can we work on a literal meaning for the word "soulslike"? I'll bite. Let's start with what could be considered core tenets of a "Souls" like system. Third-person action RPG Checkpoint system but no lives Death results in currency being placed where you died to be collected before the next death Stamina for running, jumping, and attacks Scarcity of health and healing items emphasizes defense and evasion in combat Those are just some "off the dome" We can also look at games that have been called "Soulslike" to see what they have in common. Things like Salt & Sanctuary, Lords of the Fallen, and Nioh.
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Spending 90% of the game dodge rolling around hosed up looking monster duders
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I feel like the combat has a really methodical pacing, with tight controls and an emphasis on skill over arcade-y action.
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Jay Rust posted:Can we work on a literal meaning for the word "soulslike"? Hobby grade difficulty
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LawfulWaffle posted:I'll bite. Let's start with what could be considered core tenets of a "Souls" like system. Add to that that real progress is measured in collection of inventory and unlocking parts of the environment.
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StrixNebulosa posted:a really methodical pacing, with tight controls and an emphasis on skill over arcade-y action. Nice humblebrag about your sex life wow
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It's slightly less stupid sounding than "the dark souls of ____"
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Jay Rust posted:Can we work on a literal meaning for the word "soulslike"? Did we ever figure out a term for the Arkham series' combat? Is it "free-flow" or is that not widely understood enough with saying mentioning Arkham in the same sentence?
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Lobok posted:Did we ever figure out a term for the Arkham series' combat? Is it "free-flow" or is that not widely understood enough with saying mentioning Arkham in the same sentence? IIRC "freeflow" is what the devs themselves call the Arkham combat system.
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Dark Souls is the Mike Tyson's Punch Out of JRPGs.
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Stux posted:you dont need PS+ for f2p games or games with a separate subscription like ff14
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Dark Souls 1 is the Dark Souls of the Soulsborne series
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In Training posted:Gotta pay the Battleborn FPS; hobby-grade coop campaign; genre-blended, multi-mode competitive e-sports; meta-growth, choice + epic tax.
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haveblue posted:Add to that that real progress is measured in collection of inventory and unlocking parts of the environment. Isn't that, like, zelda?
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Jay Rust posted:Dark Souls 1 is the Dark Souls of the Soulsborne series I'd argue that it was one of the more darksoulsian entries into the series
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LawfulWaffle posted:I don't know what Randy's supposed to do about it. He could have chosen not to engage the second random dude, that's a criminally underrated option that is always available on the internet.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Isn't that, like, zelda? You're not wrong, there was a really good article comparing Dark Souls to the original Legend of Zelda. Looking online, I can't find the exact one but the parallels have been drawn many times.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Isn't that, like, zelda? Eh, in Zelda getting new items means new abilities and changing how you interact with the environment. In Dark Souls everything is either a weapon or a key (or sometimes both) but your capabilities remain more or less static (depending on how you look at magic)
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Oh you've never gotten the double jump in Dark Souls?
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MMF Freeway posted:I find it hard to retain information unless a grotesque youtuber shouts it at me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPAITAuuk-8
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Jay Rust posted:Oh you've never gotten the double jump in Dark Souls? I can't even single jump!
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IMO, I feel like what makes the Souls franchise unique (Bloodborne included) can be distilled down into four core components:
All this to say, if we're to create a new category to encompass "Souls and Souls-like games," these are the four things I think we should focus on.
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There have been other games which attempted one or more of the above ideas, of course, but none that I'm aware of which handled them in quite the same way, save perhaps for Monster Hunter with regards to equipment-based combat.
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Monster Hunter and Dark Souls' combat is surprisingly similar.
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The most key component of "souls" is that it feels like playing a 90's PC game without the manual.
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I think that knowledge based progression is a core part of what make Dark Souls what it is. Like I could start up a new file on Bloodborne and clear a significant portion of the content within an hour. I love that in Souls games and it's also a big reason why I love Dead Rising
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Shout-outs to all the people who played through Fallout 3 without realizing there was a flashlight.
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