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Can't afford to pay them a living wage and stay in business chum e: Astros claim Ashur Tolliver off waivers, offseason: over Intruder fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Apparently Trumbo is seeking ~70-80M with a no trade clause. That seems...unlikely, to say the least.
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Intruder posted:"A few more $" If Chapman gets that craaazy 5/$100M contract everyone's been lolling about, that would be $4.5M more AAV than Melancon got. And yeah a 5th year, but Chapman is 3 years younger. He was easily worth the extra money, IMO. Go big or go home. Anyway. Melancon is fine and the Giants bullpen is gonna look a lot different next year. Casilla/Romo/Lopez were the core of that pen for like 7 years. I guess with MM as the closer, Derek Law becomes the setup guy and Strickland/Will Smith pitch the 7th based on matchups? And Okert is the LOOGY? I can live with that.
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mcmagic posted:So Harper is asking for 10/400? I feel like if his last year was like the year before no one would really bat an eye at this but now.... :/
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The Pussy Boss posted:Man I dunno. Melancon is fine, but if you're gonna pay for a premium closer, why not give a 5th year and a few more $ to the super-elite, all-time great reliever? I'm pretty hesitant to call a guy who's only played 6 1/2 seasons top 10 anything. In terms of peak value he's probably up there or close, but he needs to keep it going for a while longer IMO.
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https://twitter.com/BiertempfelTrib/status/805866049845526529 Why question Cutch's leadership? From all accounts he's a good leader
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So with the Jays signing of Pierce , retaining EE seems impossible. So far this offseason the jays have downgraded huge at LF, RF, DH and relief pitching. There biggest signing is Morales, a MLB'er who cant effectively play a single fielding positon, cant run, and had a lower WAR then any of the jays starting fielders last season. Rogers you cheap fucks. Just because you got insanely lucky with getting Bautista and EE out of thin air into the best HR combo in the league for years, doesn't mean this kind of magic will happen by itself. Hell, you got Donaldson for some magic beans. SIGN REAL PLAYERS. gently caress.
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patonthebach posted:So with the Jays signing of Pierce , retaining EE seems impossible. So far this offseason the jays have downgraded huge at LF, RF, DH and relief pitching. There biggest signing is Morales, a MLB'er who cant effectively play a single fielding positon, cant run, and had a lower WAR then any of the jays starting fielders last season. Pearce is better than whatever the jays had in LF last season.
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Sydin posted:OTOH Chapman reportedly wants $100 million and I'd imagine Jansen is likewise going to cost around the $80-$100m range so the Giants practically got Melancon at a steal. Hell, if that's "all" (notice the quotes) it took to get Melancon I wish we'd have gotten in on that sweet, sweet action.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Apparently the Jays might still have 30 million to spend. Trade for Eaton and sign Edwin you fucks. Based on their signings so far, I dont believe that for a second. Rogers posturing out through their own media channels. Just like the "leak" that was never verified that Bautista wanted 5/150 that came out through Rogers media.
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IcePhoenix posted:I think Brian Dozier is going to be on another team by the end of the Winter Meetings. I'm not entirely sure how to feel about this.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Pearce is better than whatever the jays had in LF last season. He isnt going to be a starting outfielder though? We got Zeke "The Bat" Carerra as 1st in our depth chart.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Could Edwin play first base every day for an NL team or does he need to DH. In terms of defensive ability at least he's perfectly fine.
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NiceGuy posted:Doesn't LA have like 8 starting pitchers at this point? Surely they're going to have to jettison some guys right? I am happy they signed Rich Hill, he's awesome and I don't care if he only throws 90 IP a season. On a rate basis he's the best starting pitcher bargain one could hope for in free agency. Jansen was gone when he didn't get extended a year ago. Turner will hopefully be back but it wouldn't surprise me if another not-really-contending team overspends on him like Arizona did with Greinke and Miami looks to with Jansen. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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bawfuls posted:I know this is two pages back, but Dozier is 29 with two years of team control left and clearly just had a career year. You should be happy about selling high. Yeah but I really really like him
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So far this offseason David Stearns seems to be questionable as a GM. He left Kirk Nieuwenhuis (who is terrible) on the roster despite having better guys in the majors or ready to come up at every position he can play, left some seriously endangered guys off the roster (we are probably going to lose Wei Chung Wang in the rule 5 draft), and non-tendered Christ Carter while signing Eric Thames (who is a worse Chris Carter). If you're going to sit in a holding pattern at the major league level, it seems weird to be pushing buttons and pulling levers to acquire different lovely players than the ones you already have while also keeping your talent that needs major league time blocked by holding onto guys who don't deserve a contract. I really hope that Boy Genius David Stearns doesn't turn out to be one of those guys who just likes to make enigmatic moves for the sake of it.
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IcePhoenix posted:Yeah but I really really like him
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N: Apparently Chapman wants six years. Also he said that the Cubs don't seem interested in signing him. V:  on the first point,  on the second.
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bawfuls posted:You're going to like Jose de Leon a lot too. but...what if I don't? Now you can see why I'm unsure how to feel.
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Sydin posted:N: Apparently Chapman wants six years. Also he said that the Cubs don't seem interested in signing him. Yeah, good luck on that, Chappy.
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Sydin posted:N: Apparently Chapman wants six years. Also he said that the Cubs don't seem interested in signing him. loving 
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IcePhoenix posted:but...what if I don't?
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bawfuls posted:He gets a lot of these things called Strike-Outs. I know Twins fans are unfamiliar with these from their pitchers lately but I promise you will enjoy them. Come on man, Johan wasn't that long ag- Oh jesus am I getting old
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Sydin posted:N: Apparently Chapman wants six years. Also he said that the Cubs don't seem interested in signing him.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Could Edwin play first base every day for an NL team or does he need to DH. For a year or two sure but I wouldn't want him there every day in 2019
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"What do you mean you won't give us the top two prospects in your farm for two years of a 30 year old OF who's forgotten how to field his position and is coming off a career low year?!"
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Like Johnny Cueto, Melancon gets an opt-out after two years. Interesting. https://twitter.com/AlexPavlovic/status/805906701841035264 Also, glad to hear this: https://twitter.com/AlexPavlovic/status/805908641714999300
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Joe Nathan, thrower of 6 1/3 scoreless innings last year is drawing interest from a number of clubs. DODGERS? MAYBE? He was really good in 2006, this could be the lottery ticket they need to push them over the top.
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Mike_V posted:Are the Cardinals going to make a move for a CF or ride Grichuk/Bader all year? They're apparently in the running for Fowler according to Heyman. I don't think he'll end up there though. I feel like Carlos Gomez is more likely. I don't have any sources on Gomez, it's a gut feeling and seems like something the Cardinals would do. After which he goes on to hit like it's 3 years ago.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I really hope that Boy Genius David Stearns doesn't turn out to be one of those guys who just likes to make enigmatic moves for the sake of it. What else should he be doing besides making enigmatic moves at this point? Chris Carter was rumored to get 10 million in arb. So that means one more year with an untradeable contract. Instead they went with the mystery Korean box who could be a much better all around player than Carter. Thames contract is also structured so if he sucks he would still be fine as a super sub bench hitter. Kirk is a backup outfielder. You don't use legit prospects as your 5th outfielder. Besides LF will be open if Braun is traded to LA or whomever. That is the real judgment for the offseason. Otherwise I would just expect retread projects to see if just needed a second chance. Like Villar, Guerra, Broxton, Perez etc.
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