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Yeah so What does it mean for America if China's market suddenly fucks itself?
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HoboNews posted:Yeah so A bunch of idiots who bet big on China get hosed and we laugh at them itt
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:08 |
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My father in law just messaged my wife on wechat and asked if it had anything to do with the new ¥1000 bill coming out. Edit: If this is real, how long until Trump takes credit for taking China down a notch?
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:08 |
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Accretionist posted:Those look like the latest figures. Is that potentially important? I'm not really sure what I'm looking at. Their currency, if that's correct, just took a 9% nosedive right before markets opening in that part of the world. It's a sign that the economy is in dire straights or direct currency manipulation.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:09 |
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If China collapses and the world economy eats it, wouldn't that drive a lot of capital into US debt? That'd be a lot of cheap deficit spending.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:11 |
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HoboNews posted:Yeah so Expect housing prices on the eastern seaboard to continue to rise as more money is pumped out of the country.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Their currency, if that's correct, just took a 9% nosedive right before markets opening in that part of the world. It's a sign that the economy is in dire straights or direct currency manipulation. Or a data fuckup from one of the upstream providers, we aren't sure yet and I'm not ready to celebrate the Chinese Century until we know
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Baronjutter posted:Here's another thing I don't get about China, or more about the rest of the world. How come everyone keeps conducting diplomacy and business deals with the chinese government and firms as if they were western institutions and getting shocked every time they're totally hosed over or china does the most petty short sighted poo poo? "Oh they'd never screw us over on this on this minor thing, we both want a long term relationship and it's in both our interests..." NOPE. They will happily gently caress them selves out of millions of dollars in long term business if they can gently caress you over for a few thousand today. And it's not just about the short term gain, it's like in the business world you lose face for not loving someone over the moment you see the smallest opening. Companies with experience in dealing with the Chinese rarely get hosed over. You try to make deals where cooperation and good performance will lead to more business for them in the mid/long term. You take precautions, like establishing a few deals that carry low risks first, later on you try sharing the risk with the manufacturer like only paying after you take ownership of your goods or better yet after passing quality control. You'll still get hosed over sometimes of course, but it's possible to minimize the risk. Basically, you need people in your company who specialize in dealing with Chinese manufacturers. Also, the part I bolded: You don't do that. If you send an engineer or QA guy to oversee critical stages of the production process once, you have to do it every time.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:19 |
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Extra points if it turns out to be wrong
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:20 |
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We will make a big currency adjustment. A yooooooge currency adjustment. A currency adjustment like you've never seen. And Chinar is gonna pay for it.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:20 |
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Accretionist posted:If China collapses and the world economy eats it, wouldn't that drive a lot of capital into US debt? That'd be a lot of cheap deficit spending. I am not an economist, so I cannot comment Pham Nuwen fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Nice!
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:22 |
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:25 |
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blowfish posted:We will make a big currency adjustment. A yooooooge currency adjustment. A currency adjustment like you've never seen. And Chinar is gonna pay for it.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:34 |
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"British Villagers Are Baffled by Flocking Chinese Tourists." http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/world/europe/british-villagers-are-baffled-by-flocking-chinese-tourists.html The opening paragraph just really tells you everything you need to know: quote:KIDLINGTON, England — The Chinese visitors fanned out of a tour bus, and suddenly stopped, transfixed, as if marveling at the Venus de Milo or the Eiffel Tower. Then they began photographing an unremarkable 1970s suburban home, an oak tree, a rosebush and a garbage bin. quote:One tourist asked a stunned resident if he could help mow her lawn. (She politely declined.) Another jumped joyously on a child’s trampoline in the front yard. Any guesses as to why this might be happening? quote:In point of fact, there is a perfectly logical explanation for why droves of Chinese tourists are coming to Kidlington, and it is hardly going to burnish the local reputation. Sun Jianfeng, a 48-year-old tour guide with Beijing Hua Yuan International Travel, said guides were routinely depositing in Kidlington tourists who did not want to pay an extra $68 for an optional Chinese language tour of nearby Blenheim Palace, Winston Churchill’s majestic ancestral home. He added that some wily tourists had figured out that buying tickets at the palace would cost only about $25, and were secretly sneaking there on foot, irking other tourists, who had already paid full price. As a result, he said, those who opted out of the Blenheim tour were being dropped in Kidlington, which is not within walking distance.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:40 |
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The XE chart seems to show the RMB back to 6.8
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:45 |
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Well, guess there's nothing to see here. Everybody move along.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:50 |
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Genuinely bummed that the lives of over a billion people didn't get significantly worse tonight
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:51 |
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It would have been so 2016
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:52 |
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lol
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:55 |
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rear end cobra posted:It would have been so 2016 The Chinese Economy would have been an excellent trophy for 2016 to put alongside American Democracy, the European Union, and like a hundred celebrities
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:56 |
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Fojar38 posted:Genuinely bummed that the lives of over a billion people didn't get significantly worse tonight same
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 01:00 |
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Why is the line before all organic and jiggly, like it had the ability to change if it was supposed to, and the line afterwards looks like someone nailed down the value as a constant?
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 01:01 |
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Woah, is the Chinese government just pegging the price there? It's still constant. I wish I could see the sheer volume of trades.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:13 |
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Blistex posted:The real reason is that despite driving a 10 ton truck or bus for more than a day, the drivers still don't understand that they have a shitload more momentum and require more stopping space than the compact car they drive at home. Also specifically with the construction trucks (dump trucks, cement mixers etc) my understanding is they are paid by the kilometer, so they have a strong motivation to speed and blow through red lights and such. These trucks never, ever, ever follow traffic laws and every serious/fatal crash I've seen has been one of them going through a red at full speed and just obliterating someone. what Boiled Water posted:Having read this I still don't fully understand why unless it's penny wise pound foolish extrapolated towards everything. Penny wise pound foolish might as well be China's official motto.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:23 |
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Truly a fitting end.quote:China's futuristic 'straddling bus' now sits abandoned, gathering dust and blocking traffic http://shanghaiist.com/2016/12/05/straddling_bus_abandoned.php
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:24 |
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I made some new China friends recently and we had lunch. I asked them how they would feel if a westerner spoke to them in Mandarin. They said they'd think it was great and really impressive because they know how hard it is to learn an unfamiliar language, having learned English. I then told them that ACTUALLY, Chinese people are incredibly patronising towards any foreigner trying to speak Mandarin. They didn't know what I was talking about. I no longer have 2 new Chinese friends. Guys... Is this thread.. Wrong??
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:28 |
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Were they under 30 or so? There's a biiiiiig difference there.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:30 |
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THE PWNER posted:I then told them that ACTUALLY, Chinese people are incredibly patronising towards any foreigner trying to speak Mandarin. They didn't know what I was talking about. I no longer have 2 new Chinese friends. i wonder about this with a lot of the stories people have about them interacting with locals when it goes horribly
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Grand Fromage posted:Were they under 30 or so? There's a biiiiiig difference there. Yes they're 23
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Baronjutter posted:What's up with the UK and being obsessed with desperately trying to become BFF's with china lately? They're idiots who confuse BRICs and Brits
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THE PWNER posted:I made some new China friends recently and we had lunch. I asked them how they would feel if a westerner spoke to them in Mandarin. They said they'd think it was great and really impressive because they know how hard it is to learn an unfamiliar language, having learned English. You just caused them to lose face and they wanted to distance themselves from you.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:35 |
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THE PWNER posted:Yes they're 23 There's your answer then.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:39 |
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Grand Fromage posted:There's your answer then. So do people here really just complain cus old Chinese people are xenophobic? Old people everywhere are xenophobic so that sounds pretty normal. Also they didn't actually run away from me. We had a nice discussion about Mandarin's popularity in the west and the Confucius institute, which I was really surprised to find they had never heard of. They're from the north and I guess there's no foreigners there because they said they'd never actually met a white person who could speak Mandarin before.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:43 |
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Oh good Pwner is back
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:00 |
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I can see across the street while looking out the window, the USD conversion has been fixed, and some guy in the colonies talked to some Chinese people. I think we can say China's at least #4 now.
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THE PWNER posted:So do people here really just complain cus old Chinese people are xenophobic? Old people everywhere are xenophobic so that sounds pretty normal. No, there are plenty of xenophobic young people and young people are actually more nationalist a lot of the time, since they've been pushing nationalism in school real hard since 1989 for some reason. But the odds of meeting someone cool increase greatly once you're talking to someone in their 20s. The generation gap in both China and Korea is enormous, more of a generation canyon.
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Sheep-Goats posted:Oh good Pwner is back Yes and I actually interact with more Chinese people than many posters in this thread who live in China! Grand Fromage posted:No, there are plenty of xenophobic young people and young people are actually more nationalist a lot of the time, since they've been pushing nationalism in school real hard since 1989 for some reason. But the odds of meeting someone cool increase greatly once you're talking to someone in their 20s. The generation gap in both China and Korea is enormous, more of a generation canyon. Sounds much like the good ol' USA, where half the young people come out as nationalistic state worshipers and the other half are sjw liberal commies.
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