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a shameful boehner posted:Amped Hardpoint is a really good twist on traditional control/capture and hold in that it points automatically start to neutralize if a player isn't actively standing on them. you can't just cap a point and then everyone fucks off like in destiny Would be better with AI.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The fact that everyone continually preaches "going fast" as the cure for everything in this game is really annoying. Exposure posted:It didn't go well with the playerbase (either due to the above or they found that the system was prioritizing skill to the point matches were becoming laggy as gently caress in their experience, though I didn't really see that much of a difference), and if I had to guess Respawn's personal reluctance to try it again is due to that. Insert name here fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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After the SBMM in Destiny, I don't care what they do as long as they prioritize good connections. I'd gladly face off against King Tweak of Adderall mountain every few games over untouchable red bar superstars playing from Saudi Arabia every game.
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a shameful boehner posted:Amped Hardpoint is a really good twist on traditional control/capture and hold in that it points automatically start to neutralize if a player isn't actively standing on them. you can't just cap a point and then everyone fucks off like in destiny It would be better if only B could be amped, because the optimal play of leaving one dude on A or C is not fun. Also, maps where Titans can't get into a single hardlpoint is dumb. And of course triangular points would be great. It is my favorite game mode though. Hackan Slash fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Hackan Slash posted:It would be better if only B could be amped, because the optimal play of leaving one dude on A or C is not fun. Also, maps where Titans can't get into a single hardlpoint is dumb. And of course triangular points would be great. Dr. Red Ranger posted:After the SBMM in Destiny, I don't care what they do as long as they prioritize good connections. I'd gladly face off against King Tweak of Adderall mountain every few games over untouchable red bar superstars playing from Saudi Arabia every game.
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Dec 6, 2016 00:25
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Daztek posted:Pilot Hover is fun and good, unlike the tryhard low profile option It's not even about being a try-hard, it's seeing that low-profile is hands down the best objectively. poo poo, Hover and Wallhang are absolutely useless in practice because they just make you easier to hit. It really doesn't take an MLG pro to utilize one kit to it's fullest to prove it's better all around, even in casual play it's the best option. Same reason why Tone is so good.
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alf_pogs posted:man something else i love about this game is that playing the objective seems like a really viable way to win rather than just killfrenzies Yeah I've been #1 on my team a fair amount of times just by having double the amount of assault/defense points then the next highest on my team, even if I only got a few kills.
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Dec 6, 2016 00:48
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Insert name here posted:IMHO they should add AI back into hardpoint and let them amp points. Suddenly you don't have to have someone sit on a point all game to amp it (in a game that's all about going fast and running on walls for fucks sake) and also there's AI to shoot, a reason to shoot them, and it makes the field more lively which I enjoy. This'd be perfect. Let a grunt sit on A while I go hit the other points.
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Insert name here posted:You keep calling this game's matchmaking lovely, but like, what exactly do you want? Really heavy skill-based matchmaking? I bought this game because they released a video and blog where they touted their new, superior matchmaking and specifically called out their new skill component - and IMO it's an almost total failure, making good matches about 1/6th of the time. I would prefer that be around 50%. I'm not asking for miracles here - matchmaking is hard and there are temporal and geographical realities - but it's a continuum and they're on the wrong side of it. When there's 2k people active in my region and mode and they put me into yet another stomp match I have to wonder what the hell is going on. Edit: Anyway I'm done yackin' about this, either they'll fix it or they won't. Let's hope for the former. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Dec 6, 2016 01:03
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To be clear: I was talking about Northstar's hover kit option, not the pilot hover (which I forgot even existed). Also, re: new matchmaking: every game I get into ATM is a one way stomp.
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Dec 6, 2016 01:35
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For what it's worth most of the games I play end up pretty close.  As seen in Destiny, skill-based matchmaking is really hard to get right. Maybe if TF2 had a large enough playerbase to support a ranked/casual split, but...
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Dec 6, 2016 01:55
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Demicol posted:Yeah I've been #1 on my team a fair amount of times just by having double the amount of assault/defense points then the next highest on my team, even if I only got a few kills. I scored 3700 on bounty hunt once with zero kills.
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Dec 6, 2016 02:07
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Dec 6, 2016 03:13
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What's the best Titan to just leave on Auto while I go around killing other Titans? Also I wish you could spectate your auto-titan at the epilogue if you're dead.
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Dec 6, 2016 03:33
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I've decided that the only factions worth a drat are Apex and the 6-4, cause none of the other jerks even bother to wear a jump pack. Buncha lazy armchair generals.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:IMO it's an almost total failure, making good matches about 1/6th of the time. I would prefer that be around 50%. I'm not asking for miracles here - matchmaking is hard and there are temporal and geographical realities - but it's a continuum and they're on the wrong side of it. When there's 2k people active in my region and mode and they put me into yet another stomp match I have to wonder what the hell is going on. (Disclaimer: This is based on AU matchmaking which, given what I've seen on streams/gifs, is way more gently caress You New Guy than the US) Xbone was like this. Winning as a non-guy-at-the-top-of-the-board player was about a 50/50 shot. It was extremely rare to see teams of coordinated titans and for the most part everyone just ran around doing their thing. There were lots of close games and things won at the last moment. In contrast, on PC you can call the game in the first minute and then usually 2-3 people bail. I don't have a solution to this given the current numbers.  Not really down on the game since when it's fun it's stupid fun, but I can definitely see why the numbers aren't going up.
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Demicol posted:What's the best Titan to just leave on Auto while I go around killing other Titans? Scorch with the AI buff.
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Yeah you wouldn't think it but he owns with enhanced titan. I just wish they could make enhanced titan AI even ebtter.
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Hackan Slash posted:It would be better if only B could be amped, because the optimal play of leaving one dude on A or C is not fun. Also, maps where Titans can't get into a single hardlpoint is dumb. And of course triangular points would be great. It's not optimal to park a guy there all day though. It's optimal to amp it and then leave. This encourages people to stick around to the point long enough that it doesn't immediately get flipped. I like it a lot and the only thing I would change is calling in an AI drop of grunts on each enemy point whenever you amp a point (mostly for looks, they can't capture or hold points). This would mostly serve to push the beginning of the round advantage by a few seconds as the grunts provide a distraction to the team who is amping their primary point second. e: ooh, and drop a reaper at each control point that belongs to a team that is completely shut out - IE, the 0-3 point team gets 3 reapers to help swing them back into competition. Sigma-X fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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On ps4 as a lovely to middling player most of my matches are pretty even. There's the occasional stomp in either direction but the vast majority of the matches I play are less than 100 points apart.
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Panic melee in this game makes me grumpy because the range feels a little ridiculous for pilots. I probably should switch my second button on my pro controller to melee from reload for this game but  Managed to barely squeeze the clip in 15 seconds, so here's me getting 2 pilot kills and a titan kill to win an Attrition match 500-498. http://i.imgur.com/b8GRfeS.mp4
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Volcanic Vents posted:I've decided that the only factions worth a drat are Apex and the 6-4, cause none of the other jerks even bother to wear a jump pack. Buncha lazy armchair generals. I just level them as I unlock them...because ultimately you level faster right? Knifegrab posted:Yeah you wouldn't think it but he owns with enhanced titan. I just wish they could make enhanced titan AI even ebtter. Ya I wouldn't mind if it got some kind of perk. Everyone seems to just be running nuke eject I gotta have that extra dash myself, especially with ion. Dash, laser *boop*, dash back behind cover
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:I just level them as I unlock them...because ultimately you level faster right? Same, actually, I just felt like talkin' poo poo on some imaginary people. I actually really like running with Ares Division just because I find that old fart's voice soothing, despite the fact that he's obviously an elite technocrat who probably hasn't seen a day of combat in his life
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Godzilla07 posted:Panic melee in this game makes me grumpy because the range feels a little ridiculous for pilots. I probably should switch my second button on my pro controller to melee from reload for this game but yesterday I panic meleed a jumping pilot and it looked like I uppercutted the dude in the balls and I was in stitches for like a good minute so I'm happy with it staying how it is
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quite stretched out posted:yesterday I panic meleed a jumping pilot and it looked like I uppercutted the dude in the balls and I was in stitches for like a good minute so I'm happy with it staying how it is Yesterday I was running around, going fast, and I kinda surprised myself by dropping onto another pilot and dropping a justice foot on his face. It has sold me on this game.
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Maybe i'm the target casual audience with only a couple pilot regens but stomp matches are like 1 in 20 for me and almost every game is a close win or loss, even if there is a star on one team they're usually balanced out by an embarassingly bad team member
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Panic melee is a new term to me, but it perfectly describes the bane of every FPS for me. Mapping melee to the loving R3 makes me accidentally click it when someone slightly startles me by popping out of nowhere and I die because of it at least once or twice a round and games rarely let me remap it. Once in a while it makes me look like an on point badass though when I jump off a building and someone is running below me or something though. I honestly hate the melee in this game though. I hate how spotty the hit detection is, I hate that it's a one hit kill, and if you both are punching each other and you die it usually feels like you got robbed. I'm really over melee being an insta kill button in FPS.
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I'm so glad the Wingman Elite is back. Its so good.
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Ice Fist posted:Yesterday I was running around, going fast, and I kinda surprised myself by dropping onto another pilot and dropping a justice foot on his face. It has sold me on this game. yeah i think the first time i big booted a dude in the face after he missed me with his shotgun was in my very first match and i was 100% sold. i'm glad they patched in grappling the escape ship though, because it was the clincher for one of my friends in his very first map when he missed the evac ship but managed to grapple it and it counted him as escaping haha
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I've been cleaning up pretty well with Amped Wall + R-201 with Tactikill and Power Cells. And smart autoTone, of course. I AM KING OF WALLS. e: But I just unlocked Thunderball, or Thunderbolt. gently caress, that thing's terrible. Can't see why I'd want that or the Charge Beam over the MGL.
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Yo if you guys are really bad don't worry this game just suddenly clicked for me and I'm doing pretty great every match. Well, maybe it has something to do with Black Friday newbs. Having a lot more fun tho But really just keep that momentum and jump off everything you can. Having a blast just with the movement in this game jumping from thing to thing whilst shooting like a loon. I like ion the best with the extra boost and zero energy tripwire. Do a lot of hit and runs and bait ronins with my tripwire, laser them, then dash away when they nuke eject My top 3 guns are lstar, devotion, and hemlock. So give those a try if you haven't. The lstar is great for run and gun and I slap a site on it in case I wanna ADS--it's only good on certain maps though. Actually, all three of those guns are only good on particular maps. The first shotgun is pretty great too and the softball is hilarious to use, but could use a slight buff. I ADS often tbh, just don't do it every corner or after your done sprinting. The lstar is great for hipfiring Pair the devotion with a-wall. I run the hemlock with grapple. Then stun/cloak with lstar I wouldn't mind a grapple buff tbh. Maybe lower the cooldown or just make it unlimited Lastly, I can't see myself using anything else but frag grenades. I get a surprising amount of random toss kills. Even without that grenade perk they refresh fast and you seemingly always have one ready. The other ones are gimmicky and fun I suppose but I just can't seem to do poo poo with them. Gravity star is great against a-wall though and on bounty hunt. Fuckers kept grabbing me while I was depositing Bogart posted:I've been cleaning up pretty well with Amped Wall + R-201 with Tactikill and Power Cells. And smart autoTone, of course. I AM KING OF WALLS. Agreed a-wall is dope and highly underused. Great with devotion Thunderbolt is actually really good imo and it's all I ever run. You don't even have to hit the Titans. Brings your Titan meter up really fast. I just run around lobbing rounds at Titans or groups of them
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Yeah, firing through the A-Wall feels really good, and throwing it to cover your flank while you open fire on some dudes in an uncertain bit of land is awesome. I guess I'll give it another shot, but ugh, it's just so unwieldy. The MGL has a nearly immediate effect on target.
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Be careful with the A-wall, because sometimes if you are trying to shoot through the side it will be a wall and you kill yourself like a dumbass. Not that I've ever done that, I mean. That would be embarrassing.
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Bogart posted:e: But I just unlocked Thunderball, or Thunderbolt. gently caress, that thing's terrible. Can't see why I'd want that or the Charge Beam over the MGL. Don't worry about trying to hit titans with it, in fact try to get it to graze right past em. If you see enemy titans bunched up, send your lazy-sailin' zap-ball into their midst and marvel at the speed with which your Titan meter fills up.
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:But really just keep that momentum and jump off everything you can. Having a blast just with the movement in this game jumping from thing to thing whilst shooting like a loon. I would add that it really pays to get accustomed to jumping without looking in the direction you're moving. If you're having that ""I can't ever find anybody to shoot and then suddenly bang I'm dead" problem, this can be mitigated a lot by looking at right angles to your jump direction. More than any other FPS I've played, TF2 really hammers home the whole "keep your head on a swivel" mantra. Angel City is really good for getting used to this type of movement; I played a lot of TF1 but for some reason playing a whole day of nothing but the Angel City playlist this weekend really helped me make a breakthrough on this front. quote:Lastly, I can't see myself using anything else but frag grenades. Same but electric smoke.
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The wingman elite's special ricochet mod makes me wish that every weapon or at least weapon class had one unique mod. That would help a bit with shifting away from SMG city.
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Also if you're on console and not playing Bumper Jumper, do it now. You can keep both thumbs on the sticks while jumping, which makes jumping and wall running way more fluid. Plus it's easier to play Bumper Jumper here since you don't need to ADS with SMGs unlike say, CoD. There's also Evolved which makes it so that you can jump with L1 AND slide with R3, but there's a trade off since you're swapping melee for sliding.
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Yo if you guys are really bad don't worry this game just suddenly clicked for me and I'm doing pretty great every match. Well, maybe it has something to do with Black Friday newbs. Having a lot more fun tho Yeah eventually you hit a moment with this game where it all clicks. You start seeing all the aerial paths through the map, you learn all the jumping distances, and you can flow poo poo together nicely. In the singleplayer campaign the manuevers are much more obvious - in multiplayer it takes a bit more to learn how flexible your movement really is. Also bounty hunt takes a long time to figure out how to strategize and I wouldn't have started with that if I had known that. There's a focus on farming and protecting yourself once you've farmed that feels very loosely MOBA-esque.
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