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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

oohhboy posted:

It the same effect when it rains, people just don't bother adjusting to the conditions so they crash more often. Eventually they do but not before how many days or whatever until they get the message.

People are dumb and are not very good at evaluating risks.

OSHA: People are dumb

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Darkman Fanpage posted:

yesssss right into the cop car
I loving love all the morons with their wheels locked right up. Yeah boy that'll do it, you keep mashing the pedal.

Boiled Water posted:

Doesn't anyone invent in winter tires and ABS in this place?
Winter tires don't work when there's 2 layers of snow shearing on top of one another. ABS doesn't really work at super low speeds.

evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Dec 6, 2016

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


I'm sure this, of all threads, can come up with the perfect solution to this problem.

I'll start: a pair of small anchors deployed from the back corners of the vehicle by an Extra-Emergency Brake.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Retrorockets. Also works for flips.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Fire harpoons into the road surface/other vehicles/nearby structures.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012
Probation
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How about something that exists, awd and studded tires. :v:

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
Parachutes and drogues

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Glue the car to the road using downforce fans.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Drive around in a hovercraft that doesn’t give a gently caress about friction.

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
Deploy compressed springs and leap over stalled/crashed cars

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
Stay in bed.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
In the wintertime, ban all vehicles and allow only dogsleds within city limits.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






spog posted:

Stay in bed.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
Get a tow truck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEzABU5LnjE

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

Cop Porn Popper posted:

How about something that exists, awd and studded tires. :v:

I love my studded tyres! So satisfying when everyone's driving at 10 mph and I'm flying along. I'm hoping it snows like crazy this year. Their cost to get-to-use ratio is quite bad. Probably why most don't have them. :shobon:

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Boiled Water posted:

Doesn't anyone invent in winter tires and ABS in this place?

That was all frozen over. It rained the night before, winter tires don't do poo poo on sheet ice.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

evil_bunnY posted:

I loving love all the morons with their wheels locked right up. Yeah boy that'll do it, you keep mashing the pedal.

Winter tires don't work when there's 2 layers of snow shearing on top of one another. ABS doesn't really work at super low speeds.

Also, first snow of the year. It's always like this, even in places with lots of snow. The mental shift into "snow driving" mode doesn't happen instantly.

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

fuckingtest posted:

Yes, the forklift couldn't do much except raise the end of the forklift enough to place the dollies. Then they lowered it on the dollies and according to a buddy of mine, they used the forklift to push/slide the thing with four dudes on the sides attempting to keep it from rolling to the left or right. Then the dollies on the front wheels disintegrated and people ran in all directions because no one want to lose a foot to an idiot's dumb idea to move a 6,000 LB piece of heavy machinery with furniture movers tools.

EDIT: They tried to kill me with a FORKLIFT!

As someone who drove a forklift for years, could they not just barely lift it off the ground and move it where it needed to go? Or was it one of those tiny forklifts?

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



I love how the dude recording fell over with the explosion and the girls barely gave a poo poo about it.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
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Imagined posted:

Gives you some perspective when you think about, say, it's 40 BC and you're a Gaul fighting a Roman consular army and 10,000 of those things are coming down at you.

10,000 women in silver overcoats with spears through their feet? gently caress I'd just slit my own throat right there and then.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Cop Porn Popper posted:

How about something that exists

How about I slide you like a curling rock into the nearest cop car?!

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

oohhboy posted:

It the same effect when it rains, people just don't bother adjusting to the conditions so they crash more often. Eventually they do

I'm in Flagstaff, AZ, and between November and March, you get average lows of around 15 degrees F and about 100 inches of snow.
Due to the high daily temperature altitude, snow melts and refreezes daily, yielding especially challenging situations throughout the entire winter.

And still, people up here don't have winter tires and smugly tell you about their all season tires, because "loving duh, it says 'all season' right there in the name, dummy!".

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
There are basically no places outside of the mountains where chains are considered okay because they absolutely murder roads. Also chains own.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Duzzy Funlop posted:

I'm in Flagstaff, AZ, and between November and March, you get average lows of around 15 degrees F and about 100 inches of snow.
Due to the high daily temperature altitude, snow melts and refreezes daily, yielding especially challenging situations throughout the entire winter.

And still, people up here don't have winter tires and smugly tell you about their all season tires, because "loving duh, it says 'all season' right there in the name, dummy!".

All season tires are the dumbest loving thing. They are anything but. They should be illegal. This is of course coming from someone who lives in a place where November all through March is solid winter tire driving conditions. I have a lot of experience driving in slippery conditions, I drive a proper 4WD and I use studded tires, but still I drive carefully because on the ice, a momentary carelessness buys you a face-to-face with a semi in the opposite lane.

I totally get that most of the US doesn't have more than a few weeks or days of snow driving, but if you at al are in a situation where you positively have to drive somewhere, why not just bite the drat bullet and get snow tires just so you don't gamble with your life or someone else's life? The gently caress are your legislators even doing allowing that crap (if indeed they do)?

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Aren't all season tires just normal tires?

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Bip Roberts posted:

Aren't all season tires just normal tires?

Depends on your definition of "normal". All season tires don't handle hydroplaning nearly as well as summer tires, don't grip as well and don't brake as well. In winter, all season tires cannot do two things: Drive on snow, or drive on ice. And that's really the main problem.

Tire manufacturers try to sell them on convenience but for liability's sake warn against using them in "extreme conditions" such as, you know, extreme light snow cover or extreme slight layers of ice. Luckily that never happens in winter.

It's unconscionable. You won't know how unsuitable these tires are until you're already sliding off the road and into a tree.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Should be called 'can handle a little rain and a bit of mud' tyres.

The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer
All season tires are bullshit. Couple of years ago I was merrily driving home one night. It's been raining the whole day, then temperature fell below zero, everything froze and it started snowing. I had winter tires on front wheels and all-seasons on back wheels, which was pretty common occurence here in Serbia, beacuse law at the time was that you have to have winter tires on drive wheels only (thankfully, that has changed to "have winter tires on all wheels between november and april). I drove at betweem 40 and 50 km/h and hit a hole in the road or something, and next thing I know I was in the ditch next to the road. Somehow, luckily, I missed lamp post and traffic sign, and spun 180 so i flew into the ditch rear end first. It was about a meter-and-something deep, and luckily full of snow, so the only damage was cracked bumper. Altough it wasn't easy pulling the car out, because the van pulling me out had barely enough traction on frozen road, we did it and I drove back home.

Tomorrow when I got out of bed it dawned upon me how easily I could have died that night, and how insanely lucky I was. I threw away all season tires and never thought about them again.

Funny thing is, now it's almost impossible to buy all season tires here

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
Look, in half our drat states they can't even bother to check whether people have working brake lights and poo poo. The gently caress you think the political will to make people spend hundreds of dollars on contingency equipment and then enforce that is going to come from?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Nice piece of fish posted:

I totally get that most of the US doesn't have more than a few weeks or days of snow driving, but if you at al are in a situation where you positively have to drive somewhere, why not just bite the drat bullet and get snow tires just so you don't gamble with your life or someone else's life? The gently caress are your legislators even doing allowing that crap (if indeed they do)?
It's 7PM, they've predicted a snow storm for tomorrow, I'll just go out into the driveway and put on four snow tires, shall I? I am certain this would actually happen. The alternative is mandating that everybody buy snow tires, put them on in [say]December, and take them off in [say] April, which would be wildly unpopular in places that get snow for three or four days a year.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Someone made a nice clip of that police car gettin it

http://i.imgur.com/D8hk0Mw.mp4

Hollow Talk
Feb 2, 2014

Arsenic Lupin posted:

It's 7PM, they've predicted a snow storm for tomorrow, I'll just go out into the driveway and put on four snow tires, shall I? I am certain this would actually happen. The alternative is mandating that everybody buy snow tires, put them on in [say]December, and take them off in [say] April, which would be wildly unpopular in places that get snow for three or four days a year.

As far as I know, winter tires do not just help with snow, but they use a different rubber mixture and tire profile, which means they perform better in colder temperatures, so even if you do not get any snow, they would probably still be a sensible investment if it gets cold at all where people live and drive. It probably doesn't help that many people call them "snow tires" rather than simply winter tires. After all, why would I need snow tires if it never snows?! :byodood:

Hollow Talk fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Dec 6, 2016

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

KoRMaK posted:

Someone made a nice clip of that police car gettin it

http://i.imgur.com/D8hk0Mw.mp4

Cop Gets Plowed In Public

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
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Arsenic Lupin posted:

It's 7PM, they've predicted a snow storm for tomorrow, I'll just go out into the driveway and put on four snow tires, shall I? I am certain this would actually happen. The alternative is mandating that everybody buy snow tires, put them on in [say]December, and take them off in [say] April, which would be wildly unpopular in places that get snow for three or four days a year.

Oh hey let me present this thing that millions of people do and takes about twenty minutes as something outlandish.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
I live in Florida so you guys will have to forgive my ignorance, but is there a reason to not just leave your snow tires on all year round if you don't have much money and live in a place where it is likely to snow?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Tricky D posted:

I live in Florida so you guys will have to forgive my ignorance, but is there a reason to not just leave your snow tires on all year round if you don't have much money and live in a place where it is likely to snow?

The studs will wear down the road. The studless ones are complete poo poo. The rubber in both the studded and studless ones is soft so the tyres themselves will wear down a lot when there's no snow or ice.

Poor people like me sometimes just use a screw driver to take the studs out of old winter tyres and hey presto new summer tyres!

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

^ also that for studded tires. It's mandatory to get studded tires removed in spring in many regions. They gently caress up roads pretty bad.

Tricky D posted:

I live in Florida so you guys will have to forgive my ignorance, but is there a reason to not just leave your snow tires on all year round if you don't have much money and live in a place where it is likely to snow?

Because they're made of different rubber compounds they lose traction and wear faster in warmer temperatures.

There are all-season tires, though, which are graded for snow and mud but not nearly as good as dedicated winter tires.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Tricky D posted:

I live in Florida so you guys will have to forgive my ignorance, but is there a reason to not just leave your snow tires on all year round if you don't have much money and live in a place where it is likely to snow?

Yeah, wear and tear, you'll cause tires to become brittle due to the aforementioned cold-weather designed rubber, and they hydroplane like a surfboard. If I were you I'd invest in a boat anyway.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
Good stuff, thanks guys.

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The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Tricky D posted:

I live in Florida so you guys will have to forgive my ignorance, but is there a reason to not just leave your snow tires on all year round if you don't have much money and live in a place where it is likely to snow?

Their traction is poorer in summer conditions and you'll get increased fuel consumption over using summer tires, but sure, you could use them in all seasons and it would be safer than using summer tires in winter.

E: beaten.

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