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In light of the sage Nate Silver telling us to drop American exceptionalism and look at European politics: You know what happened with pizza post-WW2? The thing that barely resembles its Italian version? How about we do that but with these 5-star people? 2013: lol look at this clown and his weird views about the internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpgavJ17uTk 2016:  Before I'm buried in a pyroclastic flow of the hottest Economist takes, please note I only trust Beppe to help his country as I do Ed Balls.
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comingafteryouall posted:so everyone who doesn't have money vs everyone who has money? Yes. The former has a lot more voters. It's how the Democrats dominated for almost half a century. AceRimmer posted:In light of the sage Nate Silver telling us to drop American exceptionalism and look at European politics: What happened in Italy exactly and what is the Five Star Movement?
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:Yeah me too, if we even get to vote at all in the future. GOP will 100% spend the next 4-8 years trying to ratfuck the election process as much as possible, and the dems will just turn around and present their asses with a whimpered apology like they always do when a republican raises their voice, because they are a bunch of spineless, incompetent cowards. They ceded every inch of ground they had in order to make the oval office their alamo, and did nothing to stop a right wing coup of congress and state governments. you could have switched a few nouns around and changed the focus from voter suppression to immigration reform (to get a bunch of new minority voters) and this screed wouldn't have looked out of place in 2008 as a republican throwing up his hands in despair you need to step away from the mcdonald's drivethru and relax
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punk rebel ecks posted:What happened in Italy exactly  Here's a 2016 appropriate explainer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHSLTr3IYWU If you quit before you finished watching it, congrats you just received Italian citizenship! punk rebel ecks posted:and what is the Five Star Movement? quote:The main opposition is coming from the Five Star Movement led by former comedian Beppe Grillo whose platform is focused on law and order, economic populism, and social liberalism. High unemployment among the young is fueling this opposition, as it has in France. For the young and those supporting the Five Star Movement, the European Union is simply not working and if they take power from Renzi, we may see Italy make the next move to leave the EU. AceRimmer has issued a correction as of 05:32 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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AceRimmer posted:The referendum was 2 days ago WHAT THE loving poo poo!? This is horrible! People don't vote for their own senators!?!? Everything is terrible except #7 (using referendums to be used as extra seats in the Senate to close a gridlock) is the only thing that seems good.
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Crowsbeak posted:Frankly if the deomcrats only put forward neolibs, the Democratic party will go the way of the whigs. But I doubt its as dark as you think. BLM continues, fight for 15 continues. For the record, Clinton's total ambivalence to both of these things as well as DAPL drove me mad. All of them had built in organizers and structures with solid messaging. Why focus on Trump's racism without emboldening any of those other ideas?
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punk rebel ecks posted:WHAT THE loving poo poo!? This is horrible! People don't vote for their own senators!?!?
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mugrim posted:For the record, Clinton's total ambivalence to both of these things as well as DAPL drove me mad. All of them had built in organizers and structures with solid messaging. Why focus on Trump's racism without emboldening any of those other ideas? You know the answer its a word we are told is meaningless, and is supposedly a slur.
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Confounding Factor posted:As much as I want to knee-jerk this and say "omg how can you be that delusional after such an embarrassing loss, are you kidding?"
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Crowsbeak posted:You know the answer its a word we are told is meaningless, and is supposedly a slur. I guess I kind of expected the ease of a built in organization to mobilize voters would appeal to her desire to win big with a blowout. I wasn't even expecting her to lift a finger after the election, but part of me was hoping she'd at least humor them for the free volunteers and organizers that came with taking each of those causes.
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mugrim posted:I guess I kind of expected the ease of a built in organization to mobilize voters would appeal to her desire to win big with a blowout. I wasn't even expecting her to lift a finger after the election, but part of me was hoping she'd at least humor them for the free volunteers and organizers that came with taking each of those causes. what she did during the election, that was her pandering to us we would've been reminiscing fondly of campaign hillary when president hillary was on her 15th pre-emptive invasion
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Venom Snake posted:If you want an excellent example of why the democratic establishment is garbage for babies and Florida is hell the Brevard County Democrats canceled tomorrows reorganizing/rebuilding meeting that I flew down here for because the rich couple hosting had to fly back to NY. loving kill me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReZ7DdT5ZoI She's entrenched and she can keep doing whatever she wants and raining down fundraising money, but she should pull a Paul Ryan whenever the press actually tries to talk to her. AceRimmer has issued a correction as of 06:22 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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But but but...Pelosi good, anyone else is baaaaaaaaad 
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Hopefully this is the start of Jacobin doing some effective tweeting: https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/806357451054469120
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punk rebel ecks posted:Hopefully this is the start of Jacobin doing some effective tweeting:  This is good practice for Info War 2.
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Unfunny Poster posted:But but but...Pelosi good, anyone else is baaaaaaaaad "anyone else" consisted of some nobody Blue Dog whose main selling point was "I'm from Ohio". it's not some sort of coincidence that all the progressive reps backed Pelosi
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HorseRenoir posted:"anyone else" consisted of some nobody Blue Dog whose main selling point was "I'm from Ohio". it's not some sort of coincidence that all the progressive reps backed Pelosi
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I still find it hilarious that the Clinton campaign spent more money on putting posters like Mitt Romney on Something Awful than on Hispanic outreach.
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HorseRenoir posted:"anyone else" consisted of some nobody Blue Dog whose main selling point was "I'm from Ohio". it's not some sort of coincidence that all the progressive reps backed Pelosi lol Looking forward to Abuela redux after the "we don't need to change anything" comments
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punk rebel ecks posted:I still find it hilarious that the Clinton campaign spent more money on putting posters like Mitt Romney on Something Awful than on Hispanic outreach.
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pelosi was pretty much responsible for the dems going to an anti-iraq war stance (which coincidentally sank hillary in the 2008 primary lol) and leading a fight to successfully kick gwb in the nuts and tank his privatize social security plan. if the republicans go forth with their medicare voucher plan i can't really think of anyone else i would want leading the house dems to not compromise fwiw
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What's the story behind all those good-rear end appalachian workers pics?
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100 degrees Calcium posted:What's the story behind all those good-rear end appalachian workers pics?
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Confounding Factor posted:The more interesting question to consider is demographically I can't imagine the Republicans holding much clout in 10 years. Once the baby boomers are dead, really what future does the GOP have? I thought that once, but it turns out that old right wing shitbags die and are replaced by younger right wing shitbags. A lot of people who voted for trump were gen-Xers.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:blue dogs get out reeeeeee Reeeeeeeeeee
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JIM WEBB BLUE DOG WOOF WOOF BANANA
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:I thought that once, but it turns out that old right wing shitbags die and are replaced by younger right wing shitbags. A lot of people who voted for trump were gen-Xers. How does that happen anyway, will our values become conservative values? Will we be like "well gay marriage is fine but in my day we only married one person, group marriage is weird" or something like that? Or is it literally people just get money and go I don't want to pay taxes!!!
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:I thought that once, but it turns out that old right wing shitbags die and are replaced by younger right wing shitbags. A lot of people who voted for trump were gen-Xers. The majority were Boomers. The gen xers barley went for Trump. Even White Millennials were a bare six percent. This was not the election of 1980. This can be recovered but it requires that we work together to purge and purify the democrats of the superpacs and the financiers.
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Stefan Prodan posted:Or is it literally people just get money and go I don't want to pay taxes!!! It's this.
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Stefan Prodan posted:How does that happen anyway, will our values become conservative values? Between 2009 and 2013 the rate of high school graduates going on to college dropped from 70% to 65%
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