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prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Lobok posted:

Not for want of trying, though. And while Pepper was gone, there was the matronly secretary Mrs. Abrogast, his head of PR Marcy Pearson (Rhodey was the one sleeping with her), his startup partner Clytemnestra. No romance with them either.

I could swear it was spelled "Arbogast". (I really want to go back and read some old iron Man stuff now.)

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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

No it's Arbogast, you're right. Neither way ever sounds right to me even after seeing it a thousand times.

I promise to never chastise someone for Norman Osborne again.

(But all you Spiderman assholes can go straight to hell.)

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Ferrule posted:

Is Willie Lumpkin still around?

Yes, Reed Richards cured his cancer at the end of Hickman's run. Yes that's right, Reed Richards can cure cancer, but only if you're a real bro.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

TwoPair posted:

Yes, Reed Richards cured his cancer at the end of Hickman's run. Yes that's right, Reed Richards can cure cancer, but only if you're a real bro.

That was a garbage issue.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Cancer, no problem. Orange rocky skin? Oh, would you stop asking me already!

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
But going into mailman guy was like an all day excursion, think of how many inventions Reed coulda came up with in that time why are you being so selfish

Unmature
May 9, 2008
Batman's hunchback mechanic

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Unmature posted:

Batman's hunchback mechanic

Scott Snyder brought him back in All Star Batman just a couple of issues ago!

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Speaking of forgotten characters whats Lucius Fox doing nowadays? I know his son is Tony Stark-lite, but what about senior?

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
I think Hugo had an official exit-iirc during Knightfall it shows him just sort of walking off out of the wrecked cave-and then he came back for a page in Hush to be like "Hush fixed my deformity so I betrayed you to him, but we're cool right? His name is [gets shot]"

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Madkal posted:

Speaking of forgotten characters whats Lucius Fox doing nowadays? I know his son is Tony Stark-lite, but what about senior?

Last I recall (which is admittedly quite some time ago) he's doing the post-Batman Beyond thing of being Batman's In The Know Tech Guy At Wayne Enterprises.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Any other supporting characters in the two big universes just vanish on you?

Wally West had a pretty decent-sized supporting cast when Bill Messner-Loebs was writing Flash, but they were mostly jettisoned except for Linda after Waid took over the book, I guess because he just didn't want to write them.

I think most of Superman's supporting cast he'd built up throughout the 1980s and 1990s under John Byrne, Marv Wolfman, Dan Jurgens, Jerry Ordway, Tom Grummett, Louise Simonson, David Michelinie, Roger Stern et al. (they overlapped a lot across the various Superman family books) were mostly phased out when the Superman books underwent a bit of a soft reboot around the millennium, which I mainly associate with Jeph Loeb (I believe Mike Wieringo did a lot of the pencils around that time). That'd be the likes of Bibbo, Gangbuster and so on - a lot of the Suicide Slum and Project Cadmus characters.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Howard Mackie created an entirely new supporting cast for Peter Parker during his post Clone Saga run and I'm pretty sure every goddamned one of them has been forgotten about.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Lucius is still basically being Lucius from the Nolan movies, appearing in the background occasionally to give Batman new tech or give a few lines about Wayne Enterprises financial situation.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Lucius is in the current arc of 'Tec, having been hospitalised by the Victim Syndicate when they broke in to deface the lobby of Wayne Towers.

Bibbo has actually showed up a bunch recently, notably in the first arc of Rebirth Superman where Superman and the Eradicator smash up his bar. He was also in Superwoman.

Most supporting characters from smaller solo books/runs never stick around. Like Dick Grayson's Chinese-Irish landlady/love interest from the Dixon Nightwing run.

Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Dec 7, 2016

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
See also: entire Batman Inc characters.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Remember the run down family with the grudge son in Death of Superman? What ever happened to them? I seem to remember Cyborg Superman gunned them all down but that seems terrible

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Rhyno posted:

Howard Mackie created an entirely new supporting cast for Peter Parker during his post Clone Saga run and I'm pretty sure every goddamned one of them has been forgotten about.

Remember Jimmy Six?

Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 7, 2016

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Wheat Loaf posted:

Remember Jimmy Six?

Ugh.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Remember Perry White's adoptive son? Whatever happened to him? Did Barry Allen Dr. Manhattan kill him too?

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Remember the run down family with the grudge son in Death of Superman? What ever happened to them? I seem to remember Cyborg Superman gunned them all down but that seems terrible

As far as I know the last we see of them is the son coming to town, getting a pep talk from Superman's supporting cast and returning home to discover his deadbeat dad returned to give it a second shot.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Still waiting for Snyder or Tom King to bring back Joey Potato

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
If they ever make a full-on nineties Spider-nostalgia comic, Jimmy Six will be one of the main supporting characters in it.

It'd be a team book. The main characters would be the Slingers except they're all clones of Peter Parker, they all believe they're the original, and every month resort to increasingly convoluted schemes to conceal it from the others.

Mary Jane would quit smoking at the start of every instalment then take it up again at the end; she'd be impregnated by every clone of Peter at one point or another but every child is revealed to be a highly-trained actress who was only pretending to be miscarried. Once an issue, one of the team proclaims that SHOOOOCKEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR can't escape him and he'll chase him to the ends of the Earth, even if Shocker isn't actually in the comic.

The main villains would be the Brotherhood of Scriers, who are all clones of Norman Osborn. Recurring enemies would include Cardiac, Chase and the Tri-Sentinel (who robs banks on a regular basis), and every time the bad guys have them cornered, they're saved by the timely intervention of Solo smashing through a convenient nearby window yelling, "WHILE I LIVE, TERROR DIES!" and firing a machine gun in each hand.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Didn't JMS create a whole bunch of supporting characters at Peter's teaching job too?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

ImpAtom posted:

Remember Perry White's adoptive son? Whatever happened to him? Did Barry Allen Dr. Manhattan kill him too?


As far as I know the last we see of them is the son coming to town, getting a pep talk from Superman's supporting cast and returning home to discover his deadbeat dad returned to give it a second shot.

Perry White's son was revealed to actually be Lex Luthor's son from when Alice cheated on him. He died back in 1989 or so.

The second one is "Mitch" who later gained powers and became a member of the Supermen of America.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Im the guy that makes your team lose in 3v3wrong thread sorry oh god

Sinners Sandwich fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Dec 7, 2016

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Rhyno posted:

Perry White's son was revealed to actually be Lex Luthor's son from when Alice cheated on him. He died back in 1989 or so.

It was that Marv Wolfman gang war storyline where he's fall, "No, gently caress you, dad!" and falls in with the wrong crowd, then gets killed in the crossfire in a shoot-out between rival gangs who'd been armed with advanced LexCorp weaponry, I think.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Gaz-L posted:

Didn't JMS create a whole bunch of supporting characters at Peter's teaching job too?

I don't think there were all that many, actually. I think JMS mainly created new villains (I don't think he actually uses all that many classic Spider-Man bad guys for most of his run; there's the Doc Ock story - which I really liked - but other than that I'm drawing a blank).

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!
I remember back when Microchip's son got killed. Didn't Micro himself die several years later? I don't really read Punisher so I have no idea if Micro is even around (or if that counts in this case).

Also, what about Arnim Zola's kids that came back with Cap? I read those comics and don't even remember what happened. Jet(?) was bad then good then maybe bad again? And the little boy grew up and came back to this dimension and then...?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Wheat Loaf posted:

It was that Marv Wolfman gang war storyline where he's fall, "No, gently caress you, dad!" and falls in with the wrong crowd, then gets killed in the crossfire in a shoot-out between rival gangs who'd been armed with advanced LexCorp weaponry, I think.

Don't forget that Superman wen to hell to try and save him and Jimmy Olsen.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Ferrule posted:

I remember back when Microchip's son got killed. Didn't Micro himself die several years later? I don't really read Punisher so I have no idea if Micro is even around (or if that counts in this case).

Also, what about Arnim Zola's kids that came back with Cap? I read those comics and don't even remember what happened. Jet(?) was bad then good then maybe bad again? And the little boy grew up and came back to this dimension and then...?

Jet Black (yes that's her name) was accused of being a double agent by Sharon Carter after she returned from Dimension Z. (post-turning-old) Steve Rogers and (still-Falcon) Sam Wilson were like "Hey let's talk this out we're not gonna charge you with anything but we should take you into custody" then Jet pretty much said "gently caress y'all, my word should be good enough for you, I'm out" then disappeared.

Ian, Steve's adopted son and the other Zola kid, came back and was Nomad. He's had not one but two fake-out deaths since his reintroduction (three if you count his reintroduction itself making his first death a fake-out). First Baron Zemo slit his throat on his and Sam Wilson's inaugural mission after Sam took the mantle of Captain America. Thanks to bioengineering somehow he heals from that. Then while fighting Zemo again, Zemo rigs the HYDRA base they're in to explode and it seemingly explodes. But then it turns out he managed to get in some magic bullshit elevator which warped him to a domain on Battleworld where HYDRA controlled the world (this makes Ian one of the few characters who survived the death of the multiverse along with Loki and Silver Surfer) in a SW mini called Hail HYDRA. He makes it back to the bullshit elevator with Ellie Rogers, Steve and Sharon Carter's daughter from that dimension. And then it ends!... Nomad hasn't appeared since then although seeing his reaction to Steve Rogers Agent Of Hydra could be fun. And hey, Steve could even kill him in a cliffhanger ending, since fake dying is apparently his forte!



edit: after writing all that I totally forgot how shady as poo poo the circumstances of Sharon Carter coming back to life were. I'm still waiting on her to be a double agent or an LMD or both.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Dec 7, 2016

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Rhyno posted:

Perry White's son was revealed to actually be Lex Luthor's son from when Alice cheated on him. He died back in 1989 or so.

The second one is "Mitch" who later gained powers and became a member of the Supermen of America.

I was thinking of Keith, the young kid he adopted. Whatever happened to him?

Edit: Man, even Wiki doesn't say.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

ImpAtom posted:

I was thinking of Keith, the young kid he adopted. Whatever happened to him?

Edit: Man, even Wiki doesn't say.

He stopped appearing once Simonson was off the books I think..

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

TwoPair posted:

Jet Black (yes that's her name) was accused of being a double agent by Sharon Carter after she returned from Dimension Z. (post-turning-old) Steve Rogers and (still-Falcon) Sam Wilson were like "Hey let's talk this out we're not gonna charge you with anything but we should take you into custody" then Jet pretty much said "gently caress y'all, my word should be good enough for you, I'm out" then disappeared.

Ian, Steve's adopted son and the other Zola kid, came back and was Nomad. He's had not one but two fake-out deaths since his reintroduction (three if you count his reintroduction itself making his first death a fake-out). First Baron Zemo slit his throat on his and Sam Wilson's inaugural mission after Sam took the mantle of Captain America. Thanks to bioengineering somehow he heals from that. Then while fighting Zemo again, Zemo rigs the HYDRA base they're in to explode and it seemingly explodes. But then it turns out he managed to get in some magic bullshit elevator which warped him to a domain on Battleworld where HYDRA controlled the world (this makes Ian one of the few characters who survived the death of the multiverse along with Loki and Silver Surfer) in a SW mini called Hail HYDRA. He makes it back to the bullshit elevator with Ellie Rogers, Steve and Sharon Carter's daughter from that dimension. And then it ends!... Nomad hasn't appeared since then although seeing his reaction to Steve Rogers Agent Of Hydra could be fun. And hey, Steve could even kill him in a cliffhanger ending, since fake dying is apparently his forte!



edit: after writing all that I totally forgot how shady as poo poo the circumstances of Sharon Carter coming back to life were. I'm still waiting on her to be a double agent or an LMD or both.

Jeez. I remember some of that and I was reading all them books at the time. Jet had the potential to be a good anti-hero. I never liked Ian when he grew up but it's just weird how they were all hand-waved. Stupid Secret War.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

I was reading through New 52 Supergirl recently, and at the end of issue 34 Cyborg Superman Zor-El and Brainiacs appear over earth threatening doom. Then the next issue is some bullshit with jason todd and the Brainiac invasion is completely dropped and never referred to ever again. What the gently caress happened?

Along those same lines, what the gently caress was up with the Gen13 tease at the end of issue 33?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
That book was a massive mess from the beginning and they never really decided on a proper direction for it.

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

howe_sam posted:

I was reading through New 52 Supergirl recently, and at the end of issue 34 Cyborg Superman Zor-El and Brainiacs appear over earth threatening doom. Then the next issue is some bullshit with jason todd and the Brainiac invasion is completely dropped and never referred to ever again. What the gently caress happened?

Along those same lines, what the gently caress was up with the Gen13 tease at the end of issue 33?
34 was a random Doomed tie-in and resolved in that

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Threep posted:

34 was a random Doomed tie-in and resolved in that

Well gee, I'm really glad they mentioned that in the issue, or maybe it just got left out of the version included in the trade.

a cat youtube
Jun 25, 2013
Im finally reading World War Hulk and I have a stupid question. Do they ever explain how a regular brood alien, miek, oldstrong and elloe suddenly gain enough power to overpower and knock out captain marvel, wonder man, aries etc etc. seems a bit convoluted

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

howe_sam posted:

Well gee, I'm really glad they mentioned that in the issue, or maybe it just got left out of the version included in the trade.

Doomed it's self was a pretty neat event if you want more. Pak and Soule are good-uns.

Edit: Red Lantern Kara makes a couple more appearances in there. She has a great scene convincing Superman/Doomsday to let out his aggression in space, and Aaron Kuder draws her like a total maniac.

And hopefully it's getting you into Charles Soule's Red Lanterns. That's a crazy good comic.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Dec 7, 2016

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irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Why did Marvel comics forget about X-men supporting character Stevie Hunter? She was a dance instructer for Kitty and a friend of Storm's. Eventually she grew close enough house sit, mentor The New Mutants, run the Danger Room and even was trusted enough that Jessica Drew and Dazzler were perfectaly okay hanging in and out of costume with her.

I'm still reading Claremonts run so I don't know of he was the one to drift away from her first. She was just a cool character and I was suprised to see she made no future apperences after the 80s. Would even think she would be in that newer Storm solo a year back because pretty sure she had a supporting New yorkian cast in that.

Any other supporting characters in the two big universes just vanish on you?
Stevie kind of just stopped appearing as the book's direction changed. Once Professor X goes into space and the team becomes "outlaws", there's less and less supporting cast as they're not in the mansion often (and then it gets destroyed during Inferno anyway) or spending much time socialising. As happens with comics, new creative teams decide to introduce their own supporting cast and drop old ones.

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