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boner confessor posted:its actually a terrible argument because nothing makes fishmech post more than pointing out he's wrong but not technically wrong I haven't actually read any of his posts but I like to imagine he thinks all the white people in Detroit thought the streets were so illogical that they had to move elsewhere
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It's totally not gay that he's putting his dick in other mens' mouths.
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 22:36 |
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I love it when people explain their shirt jokes
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 22:36 |
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boner confessor posted:yeah but that's because there's a continuum of cultural and ethnic history in ireland that stretches back from the present day to that point in time i don't think covering precolonial history necessary lays claim to a historical continuation in the sense that precontact indigenous American history "belongs" to the United Sates of America, that is that it is integral part of the states history - I guess my issue is more that restricting American history to be simply that of the state rather than a broad sweep of the geographic region is fundamentally a lopsided way of dealing with things.
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Scott Pruitt is going to be the new head of the EPA Time to start building flood shelters
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ESO trip report: Just got hired to eliminate a dangerous heretic by the name of Vox who poisons the minds of others and seeks to overthrow the rightful order.
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Badger of Basra posted:I haven't actually read any of his posts but I like to imagine he thinks all the white people in Detroit thought the streets were so illogical that they had to move elsewhere fishmech posts a lot about street layout and grid shapes and traffic flow and types of trains etc. so i really think he sees cities as a sim city style grand experiment in physically engineered architecture and not as a collection of systems largely revolving around human behavior i didn't get into his streetcar example but it's also bad, he implied that streetcar coverage correlated with bad design when this is totally ahistorical for a number of reasons but to keep it really brief both streetcars and street plotting at the time was largely left up to the private sector and can in no way be described as "designed" and also the changes he's talking about are completely miniscule anyway in the grand scheme of things unless you study roadmaps like an EE studies printed boards
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boner confessor posted:fishmech posts a lot about street layout and grid shapes and traffic flow and types of trains etc. so i really think he sees cities as a sim city style grand experiment in physically engineered architecture and not as a collection of systems largely revolving around human behavior you've got some weird strrawmen to try to defend your position of "bad design can never cause other problems" imo
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kustomkarkommando posted:i don't think covering precolonial history necessary lays claim to a historical continuation in the sense that precontact indigenous American history "belongs" to the United Sates of America, that is that it is integral part of the states history - I guess my issue is more that restricting American history to be simply that of the state rather than a broad sweep of the geographic region is fundamentally a lopsided way of dealing with things. the problem is that there's such a big difference between colonial settlement and precolonial periods of history that they dont really cover the same forms of history aside from having happened in the same location. look up any american state on wikipedia and you'll see an obligatory paragraph or two that says like "the first people who lived here were the such and such who settled villages ten thousand years ago and maybe built some mounds and stuff" and then it goes into the rest of the article. that kind of contractually obligated white people weren't the first to live here paragraph is the kind of stuff you get when you try to fold native american history into white settler history also a lot of really worthwhile native american history isn't developed yet because a lot of it is still being established archeologically. because seriously, nine out of ten natives east of the mississippi were killed by various plagues introduced by europeans - some groups wiped out without having ever seen a european - such that by the time europeans showed up they basically came into indigenous mad max and everything was in turmoil so we really don't know much about these societies except in their interactions with colonists, which makes that a useful start date for a curriculum. like i've been to a couple different archeological sites in my region, etowah village and fort mountain, and we still have inconclusive ideas about who built these places or what they were used for
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fishmech posted:you've got some weird strrawmen to try to defend your position of "bad design can never cause other problems" imo you are autistic and you don't understand how cities work
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boner confessor posted:you are autistic and you don't understand how cities work that's you, the guy who believes roads are the only thing that exists in design for some reason.
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im sorry i hurt your feelings fishmech. please stop quoting me. you will be wrong forever. thank you
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Randler posted:
Cutting off nose to spite face.jpg
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boner confessor posted:im sorry i hurt your feelings fishmech. please stop quoting me. you will be wrong forever. thank you i mean it's really clear you just didn't read any of the posts so you started an argument against something that didn't exist. i'm just wondering why that is.
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 22:59 |
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NO NO STOP
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:02 |
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probably been linked in here already but im gonna just post and not read the last thousand posts anyway thanks 24 and zero dark thirty you were a credit to the republic https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/05/torture-survey-red-cross-people-on-war-poll
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:02 |
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boner confessor posted:the problem is that there's such a big difference between colonial settlement and precolonial periods of history that they dont really cover the same forms of history aside from having happened in the same location. look up any american state on wikipedia and you'll see an obligatory paragraph or two that says like "the first people who lived here were the such and such who settled villages ten thousand years ago and maybe built some mounds and stuff" and then it goes into the rest of the article. that kind of contractually obligated white people weren't the first to live here paragraph is the kind of stuff you get when you try to fold native american history into white settler history But I would consider exposure to different forms of history to be integral to broad sweep history especially when dealing with settler colonial states. I guess part of my resistance to a clean separation is informed by the relatively contemporary debates on certain key topics in African history, namely scholarship about the mfecane and attempts to redress relative historical silence on Khoisan settlement
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:03 |
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also im curious but i don't want to go back is the pipeline thread still the absolute worst thread since the pipeline was delayed or has it gotten better
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UberJew posted:also im curious but i don't want to go back is the pipeline thread still the absolute worst thread since the pipeline was delayed or has it gotten better can it be worse than the left wing media thread
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boner confessor posted:can it be worse than the left wing media thread jarmak was posting and people were agreeing with him so
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:07 |
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The middle east thread is competing to claim the throne in the bottom of the sewer as well
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:08 |
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kustomkarkommando posted:Legit leaving out precolonial history in a course on "early" american history is actually the kind of thing that irks me we have a class dedicated to that its just not this one
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Raskolnikov38 posted:we have a class dedicated to that its just not this one well fine then!!
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:11 |
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our public school history curriculum did involve some coverage of native american societies before colonial times in their various areas, but it was usually just the time period immediately beforehand, as well as covering the migration of over from asia.
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:15 |
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nationalist history is kind of a joke really. we had one class that was straight up history of belgium and it legit did start with some mumbling about caesar, the merovingians, spanish netherlands and so on but 99% was post 1830. that was a first year joke of a course tho and everything else was either time-frame related or like economic/social/ecologic/religious history
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middle school history was just basically european history from prehistory to modern times tho
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:18 |
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all history is a joke because history only begins when kim il-sung was miraculously born to save us all through juche
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:20 |
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all these horrible threads i'll never read like dust in the wind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7A_hOda5uc
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:21 |
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https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/806620424796860418 Is... Is Newt pro-Imperial Japan?
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# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:45 |
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hi fishmech! thank you for your excellent work as vanya's publicity agent, he's very pleased with your performance
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and vanya's esteem is very valuable in this uncertain world
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Pics of Vanya
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coward duterte will not melt down I'm guessing or blame Obama
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# ? Dec 8, 2016 00:12 |
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Huh George Takei is in this Twilight Zone episode http://www.hulu.com/watch/440852 I recommend this episode for December 7th on the 75th anniversary.
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https://twitter.com/nycguidovoice/status/800890348021149697
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Avshalom posted:hi fishmech! thank you for your excellent work as vanya's publicity agent, he's very pleased with your performance it's highly important that vanya is seen and appreciated, imo
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Hmm this episode went overboard with the anti-japanese apologia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA-9iIsAcI0
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merry exmarx posted:i think he's posting less because his dad is dying of cancer yeesh, that sucks
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its a weird day when someone indirectly accuses an elected politician of being involved in a murder and they vigorously deny it by pointing out they where in prison at the time
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