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Wyld Thang posted:Welcome to the Republican party. turn your monitor on e: ed balls
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Grognan posted:Who the gently caress is middle america? People that don't rent? midwestern white people aka the only people on earth who matter
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Serf posted:immigration plan: welcome to America! Here's a driver's license and a handgun, oh and you will be paid full wages because you're a goddamn human being
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Powercrazy posted:Illegal Immigration is actually a big problem because it allows most small businesses to avoid taxes and pay less then the minimum wage, while the laborers are too afraid of being deported to complain about anything. Immigration is good as long as it is through the proper channels and those channels get streamlined.
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Grognan posted:Who the gently caress is middle america? People that don't rent? People between between the west and east coasts. You know, the part of the country that Hillary Clinton won virtually none of
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Grognan posted:Who the gently caress is middle america? -Hillary Clinton, 2016
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Well What Now posted:-Hillary Clinton, 2016 Ouch!
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See also: "Will it play in Peoria?"
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Powercrazy posted:Well also the idea of controlling a nations borders should exist. You can't have legal immigration mean anything, if you can get all the same benefits by just showing up. Controlling immigration will only get more important as more social policies are passed. UK-labour-controls-on-immigration-mug.jpg
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"I don't like Illegal immigration cause it lets companies treat their workers like poo poo" is a surprisingly strong position that can win over lots of people to your side and keep you on the right side of things like xenophobia and racism. By making it clear that your issue is that these people are being paid nothing and companies are reaping the benefits, you refocus the idea that immigrants are taking jobs to the idea that companies are exploiting people and it's taking away jobs. Defenses like "they do the jobs no american wants to" and "they're not taking YOUR job" devalue the work done and seem more concerned with keeping around a source of cheap labor than defending the human rights of fellow human beings.
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gently caress the clintons, i actually learned something from this election
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Powercrazy posted:Illegal Immigration is actually a big problem because it allows most small businesses to avoid taxes and pay less then the minimum wage, while the laborers are too afraid of being deported to complain about anything. Immigration is good as long as it is through the proper channels and those channels get streamlined. that's not really true. under-the-table employment is mostly housekeeping jobs, construction, etc. most illegal immigrants are paid like normal employees using faked immigration documents, and they pay taxes. i think also it's a mistake to pretend like we have a shortage of lovely, hourly jobs in this country. we don't, we've got a whole lot more of those than we need. the shortage is in salaried jobs with benefits. so while we might see a modest uptick in wages for some jobs without illegal immigration, it's not really affecting most people. Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 23:00 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/806981129370738688 MO'M 2020!
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if we allow a Clinton to slither back into running for President then we deserve to lose we seriously need to get mobilized and get active
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gently caress's sake
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Mirthless posted:
i mean even if you don't everyone else will loving immediately so it's moot either way
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Serf posted:if we allow a Clinton to slither back into running for President then we deserve to lose you know i think kenneth vogel just might have been kidding
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I think we need to just say "gently caress it" and create an American Union. We can't pretend that the immigration issue within the countries of the Americas is one that can be solved by each nation individually. Obviously, this is a long term plan, but it's the sort of direction we need to be heading. Edit: 
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Concerned Citizen posted:you know i think kenneth vogel just might have been kidding I want to believe you, but you are, unfortunately, Concerned Citizen
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"i want chelsea clinton to run for president," said no one ever
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Hmmm, how about no? https://twitter.com/politico/status/806981457210200064
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i don't care for chelsea clinton but if she wants to run for something i'll let the voters decide
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Joementum posted:Hmmm, how about no? lol if this was the conclusion the Democrats came to e: to be fair I think I'd vote for John Morgan for governor since he basically single-handedly made this garbage state adopt medical marijuana and I seriously doubt the Florida dems could find anyone better
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Joementum posted:Hmmm, how about no? We might want to start being a bit more literal with the whole "class war" rhetoric.
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ahaha yer fvckin taking the piss arent you chelsea please...  tell me you actually are taking the piss.....
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Fullhouse posted:lol if this was the conclusion the Democrats came to Chelsea is not running for anything, ever and rich people running for Governor of their state has been standard politics in the U.S. for the last 200 years.
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Joementum posted:Hmmm, how about no? 
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Joementum posted:Hmmm, how about no? this dude looks like Jay Landsman on the Wire lol MizPiz posted:We might want to start being a bit more literal with the whole "class war" rhetoric. I am 100% literal when I talk about the class war
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i think its time to make a new party if the democrats literally think this imo cos they're dead if they think this
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Serf posted:this dude looks like Jay Landsman on the Wire lol "Exit polls say we need to be less elitist" "gently caress the stats"
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it also doesn't seem like a concerted effort on the part of the Democratic party so much as a bunch of old rich dudes with connections seeing what trump did and going "hey, I could probably do that too"
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Mirthless posted:No, because I never said it was the one thing, I said it was a contributing factor, which it was. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Dem's should just run Tom Hanks.
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