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Atrocious Joe posted:When your go to example for technological change influencing the workforce is the cotton gin, and you fail to bring up slavery, something weird is happening in your mind Okay, so we've jumped from "he assumes the necessity of having a job and ignores human wellbeing" to "he fetishises economic value and is therefore a sociopath" to "he didn't mention slavery so something must be wrong with him". Those dozen words really are all things to all people!
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^^^ super cool i'm working hard on some top notch marxist memes for ya'll..... keep ur eyes peeled
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Jacobin is a pretty well written magazine, which is something I base off of like 3 articles I read a year ago. Confirm/deny???
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imo they're the most important leftist media outlet in america today. and they keep growing, fairly rapidly. one of the few things that gives me hope
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jacobin is good... FOR TROTS *smirks tankishly*
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Here's an example of the New York Times being balanced and reality based https://twitter.com/CartaMonir/status/806904530256429057
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Last night I was listening to an NPR feature about Cubans who had (foolishly) begun spending time and money setting up or preparing their small business for improved relations with the United States. They are reasonably concerned that a hardline stance from the Trump Administration will render their efforts wasted and leave them with nothing. They are now trying to appeal to Trump and co, saying that since they are entrepreneurs trying to build something from nothing, Trump will recognize and relate to their struggles and have sympathy. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Seriously and for honest. I was kind of agog at these people playing "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" out of Cuba of all goddamn places, and appealing to the sentiments of a 2-bit conman who has never worked a day in his life, but like, I haven't had their lives. Despite constant contemplation on the internet, especially after Castro's death, I truly have no idea what it means to be a Cuban or what a Cuban might hope to gain from participating in global capitalism.
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Atrocious Joe posted:Here's an example of the New York Times being balanced and reality based reminder that a bafflingly significant portion of white people consider "racist" to be n-word caliber hate
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100 degrees Calcium posted:Last night I was listening to an NPR feature about Cubans who had (foolishly) begun spending time and money setting up or preparing their small business for improved relations with the United States. They are reasonably concerned that a hardline stance from the Trump Administration will render their efforts wasted and leave them with nothing. They are now trying to appeal to Trump and co, saying that since they are entrepreneurs trying to build something from nothing, Trump will recognize and relate to their struggles and have sympathy. Sounds like Cuba is in dire need of socialist memes
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"castro stole my families farms and drove us out of our homeland! communism is bad!" *is a descendant of a sugar cane slaver*
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Agean90 posted:Jacobin is a pretty well written magazine, which is something I base off of like 3 articles I read a year ago. Confirm/deny??? I've subscribed for a number of years now and yes it's good - the print edition is always worth the read. Their standards are weaker for online-only works. Two major highlights -Their dual issue on cities, Paint the Town Red, and their special issue on the Civil War, Abolition, and Reconstruction, Struggle and Progress.
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Yinlock posted:reminder that a bafflingly significant portion of white people consider "racist" to be n-word caliber hate My hypothesis on this is that they've been brought up from childhood to believe that racists are bad people (and like all "bad" people such as criminals, liberals, or cyclists, really a whole Other species separate from normal humans and fundamentally irredeemable). Only, they believe this in the same way they believe the tenets of their religion, whatever they may be: they're not really sure why they exist or what they mean, but by God, if anyone says anything against them, they will face a righteous fury! And because they know they are not bad people, and that they are normal humans and not Others, they obviously can't be racist, and calling them a racist is a near-religious-level insult and they take an appropriate level of offense. The solution, I think, is to adopt a page from Jesus and hate the sin, not the sinner. When a racist does a racist thing, don't say "You're a racist" but instead, "that's kind of a racist thing to do."
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Are you saying you should treat people well? That's not gonna fly with my violent Marxist militia fantasies
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Duscat posted:The solution, I think, is to adopt a page from Jesus and hate the sin, not the sinner. When a racist does a racist thing, don't say "You're a racist" but instead, "that's kind of a racist thing to do." I don't think the recipient of the criticism will observe the difference, but I dig the sentiment.
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Enjoy posted:Okay, so we've jumped from "he assumes the necessity of having a job and ignores human wellbeing" to "he fetishises economic value and is therefore a sociopath" to "he didn't mention slavery so something must be wrong with him". Buddy we are all talking about the same basic problem using different points, and "fetish" has more definitions than just the sexual kind. The only person having a problem with words here is you.
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Larry Parrish posted:Are you saying you should treat people well? That's not gonna fly with my violent Marxist militia fantasies You're right as gently caress about SoCal btw. They're just wasting all of your water on strip malls.
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jarofpiss posted:Interesting that the countries people point to in regard to this are the most authoritarian examples of communism because of any socialist movement being constantly assaulted by us destabilization efforts. When people say stuff like this are they thinking of the same US that I am that watched half the globe turn socialist with resistance efforts including losing the vietnam war, fighting korea to a stalemate and dying castro's beard?
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100 degrees Calcium posted:Despite constant contemplation on the internet, especially after Castro's death, I truly have no idea what it means to be a Cuban or what a Cuban might hope to gain from participating in global capitalism. The rest of the Caribbean is an example of global capitalism. They hope for doom and gloom I guess. Deimus fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:Here's an example of the New York Times being balanced and reality based https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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Duscat posted:My hypothesis on this is that they've been brought up from childhood to believe that racists are bad people (and like all "bad" people such as criminals, liberals, or cyclists, really a whole Other species separate from normal humans and fundamentally irredeemable). Only, they believe this in the same way they believe the tenets of their religion, whatever they may be: they're not really sure why they exist or what they mean, but by God, if anyone says anything against them, they will face a righteous fury! And because they know they are not bad people, and that they are normal humans and not Others, they obviously can't be racist, and calling them a racist is a near-religious-level insult and they take an appropriate level of offense. due to social stigma they know that racism is bad, but don't actually know what being racist really is. thus we get "i'm not racist but i hate black people"
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asdf32 posted:When people say stuff like this are they thinking of the same US that I am that watched half the globe turn socialist with resistance efforts including losing the vietnam war, fighting korea to a stalemate and dying castro's beard? http://anticapitalismfaq.com/kh/
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Speaking of Jacobin and the failures of revolutions, this article has been heavily on my mind the past few days. tldr: a grand alliance of anarchists and social democrats creating anticapitalist organizations at the local and national scale respectively will reduce human suffering more than a revolution (or, obviously, than a private commune in the wilderness somewhere).
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utopia will be built on the fidelity of social democrats and the organizational skills of anarchists
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Doc Hawkins posted:tldr: a grand alliance of anarchists and social democrats creating anticapitalist organizations at the local and national scale respectively will reduce human suffering more than a revolution (or, obviously, than a private commune in the wilderness somewhere). There's no reason this strategy couldn't be the basis of a revolutionary movement. I mean, the Left has to start from somewhere in America, and we're not going to get PSL members elected to congress any time soon. There's also the problem that you can't trust anarchists or SDs, but something is better than nothing.
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The impossible is...possible sometimes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXEsJsTOuOo
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If poverty was eradicated, healthcare and education made free, and worker's cooperatives became ubiquitous, I'd be happy whether people wanted to make things even more socialist or not. e: dont purge me bro
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Prav posted:utopia will be built on the fidelity of social democrats and the organizational skills of anarchists And to the Marxists, memes!
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Doc Hawkins posted:If poverty was eradicated, healthcare and education made free, and worker's cooperatives became ubiquitous, I'd be happy whether people wanted to make things even more socialist or not. Gotta seize the state to make that all happen, bro. Or quit paying taxes and create a state in parallel.
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asdf32 posted:When people say stuff like this are they thinking of the same US that I am that watched half the globe turn socialist with resistance efforts including losing the vietnam war, fighting korea to a stalemate and dying castro's beard? nope. wake up, neo
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jarofpiss posted:nope. wake up, neo  Whoa!
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quick guys how do I turn disenfranchised liberals into hardcore socialists
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:quick guys how do I turn disenfranchised liberals into hardcore socialists
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Baloogan posted:remove their brains  
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