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MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

CLAM DOWN posted:

I'm incredibly curious what this request is.

I'm with you.

Come on man, you can't give us something that juicy without telling us what it is!

*edit*

Oh new page... NTP chat, our extremely locked down client didn't want us opening up the PDC to the internet for NTP (which was a no brainer, I had to give them multiple options...), so we utilize the Fortinet (maybe it's a fortigate, I dunno I don't have access to it), but that syncs to one of the NTP pools.

MF_James fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Dec 8, 2016

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Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

CLAM DOWN posted:

I'm incredibly curious what this request is.

"Password requirements will now be 32 characters with at least 5 each of the following: letters, numbers, symbols, capitals, lowercase, and @. No two characters can be used in a row, no dictionary words, all uppercase letters must be next to a number, all numbers must add up to 92, and passwords must be submitted by email for approval by the IT Security department."

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


skipdogg posted:

Pro: After tomorrow I'm off until Jan 3rd. Have to use a bunch of vacation time by the end of the year. I've never had 3 weeks straight off work, but we have enough people I can take the time off and things are still covered.

I too forgot about my vacation time until end of year took several 4-5 day weekends. I feel just as rested taking a Thursday Friday off or Monday Tuesday as a full week. I'm also not too out of touch with work stuff when getting back.

Taking the Wednesday too can be nice. I'd take a full week in a row if I was actually doing something that wasn't sit on my butt watch netflix and play videogames. It seems like more time off let me delude myself.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

pixaal posted:

I too forgot about my vacation time until end of year took several 4-5 day weekends. I feel just as rested taking a Thursday Friday off or Monday Tuesday as a full week. I'm also not too out of touch with work stuff when getting back.

Taking the Wednesday too can be nice. I'd take a full week in a row if I was actually doing something that wasn't sit on my butt watch netflix and play videogames. It seems like more time off let me delude myself.

Yeah if I'm just taking days off to blow PTO, I'll do the long weekend thing, take off Friday or Monday, although since I WFH on Fridays now it's most often been Monday I take off, sometimes I'll do the Monday and Tuesday thing. Like you said, I don't get out of touch with work stuff, because sometimes it can be hard to jump back in after a week off, I'll have all new tickets in my queues and new projects etc.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

Judge Schnoopy posted:

and passwords must be submitted by email for approval by the IT Security department."

... who will then be given bonuses for securing the company! Everyone else just gets cost of living this year though.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Just send them the new NIST standard which tells people not to do any of that poo poo because it's dumb and tell them to STFU.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

psydude posted:

Just send them the new NIST standard which tells people not to do any of that poo poo because it's dumb and tell them to STFU.

Ah but NIST is a tool of the NSA and therefore we should do the opposite of whatever they say/recommend!

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

psydude posted:

Just send them the new NIST standard which tells people not to do any of that poo poo because it's dumb and tell them to STFU.

Allowing emojis in passwords would be amazing

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

pixaal posted:

I too forgot about my vacation time until end of year took several 4-5 day weekends. I feel just as rested taking a Thursday Friday off or Monday Tuesday as a full week. I'm also not too out of touch with work stuff when getting back.

Taking the Wednesday too can be nice. I'd take a full week in a row if I was actually doing something that wasn't sit on my butt watch netflix and play videogames. It seems like more time off let me delude myself.

I actually had so much the only way to use it all was to take all the work days off starting on the 12th. I had like 180 hours and can only roll over 80 hours. Hopefully I can get some stuff done around the house while the kids are at school.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Inspector_666 posted:

Ah but NIST is a tool of the NSA and therefore we should do the opposite of whatever they say/recommend!

I'm sure there's people out there who refuse to use AES because it was developed by the NSA.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Kashuno posted:

Allowing emojis in passwords would be amazing

7h1$J0b15(poop emoji)

E: it would not surprise me at all if DBAN was just slightly less than what the DOD could recover, but I'm not going to go all paranoid and throw it out the window in favor of something worse.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


One of my current clients has a strange password requirement.

- has to be exactly 8 characters
- only alphanumeric characters allowed
- must contain at least 1 upper case, 1 lowercase and 1 number
- must change ever 6 weeks
- must be 80% different than the previous passwords
- can not choose the same password for 48 months.

Probably because it's synching to a million different applications for SSO purposes.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Kashuno posted:

Allowing emojis in passwords would be amazing

My password is happy face beer beer beer laughing face sad face poop tombstone.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Judge Schnoopy posted:

My password is happy face beer beer beer laughing face sad face poop tombstone.

also known as my friday night

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Pepperoni and cheese?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Eggplant

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
"Please do not use insecure emoji passwords such as:

- 5 poops
-a beer, a martini, and an xx face
- definitely not eggplant sweat

thanks - brostartup management"

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




"beer martini shotglass poop tombstone eggplant sweating" would be a decent password all typed out.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Boogalo posted:

"beer martini shotglass poop tombstone eggplant sweating" would be a decent password all typed out.

16 character max, buddy!

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
😑💥🔫😜😂😂💯💯💯🔥👌🏻🍆💦😩😫😳

pls don't hack my SA account

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Boogalo posted:

"beer martini shotglass poop tombstone eggplant sweating" would be a decent password all typed out.

Please don't doxx me thank you

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Judge Schnoopy posted:

16 character max, buddy!

But I want the preamble to romeo and juliet as my password!

We have a dude who has a 300+ character password and he uses a usb virtual keyboard device he plugs in and presses a button on to enter it. It's pretty dumb, if he forgets his keys he can't log in because he doesn't actually know the password.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Following @PWTooStong on twitter is fun

https://twitter.com/redteamwrangler/status/806048044592443393

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


skipdogg posted:

Following @PWTooStong on twitter is fun


Okay, after a quick browse, @PWTooStrong is amazing. Jesus Christ, what is this poo poo.

https://twitter.com/decryption/status/805932498404290560

Noted proper noun Internet Banking

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Potato Salad posted:

Okay, after a quick browse, @PWTooStrong is amazing. Jesus Christ, what is this poo poo.

https://twitter.com/decryption/status/805932498404290560

Noted proper noun Internet Banking
What about that one that changes your alphanumeric password to telephone digits

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert


Holy crap....

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

hahaha a million possible passwords and 6 million customers.

Brute force tools can make a million combinations in a second, but you don't even need one because all-numeric passwords means every possible password is already documented by counting from 000000 to 999999.

"But we have a lockout policy that stops brute force attempts so we're good"

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

Potato Salad posted:

Okay, after a quick browse, @PWTooStrong is amazing. Jesus Christ, what is this poo poo.

Noted proper noun Internet Banking
I was reading an article this morning about lovely internet banking security policies, particularly ones which ignore capital letters and just treat them as lowercase anyway.

I decided to test it on my own, well gee whiz mine doesn't give a poo poo if I don't use capitals :smith:

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

I wasn't expecting this. Up to 16 years of support if you pony up the bucks.


Introducing Windows Server Premium Assurance and SQL Server Premium Assurance

siggy2021
Mar 8, 2010
I'm at a casino night conference a consultant we've used is putting on. This is the first time I've been to one of these.

Some of these vendors explained what they do to me and I'm pretty sure they just blurted out buzzwords. After they vomited words on me for 5 minutes I still had no idea what they actually did. I took their free chachkis a D walked away.

I'm assuming this is typical?

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Pretty much. Hopefully they don't have your contact info or you'll be getting cold calls and emails for the next 3 years, I mean until you die.

Tigren
Oct 3, 2003

siggy2021 posted:

I'm at a casino night conference a consultant we've used is putting on. This is the first time I've been to one of these.

Some of these vendors explained what they do to me and I'm pretty sure they just blurted out buzzwords. After they vomited words on me for 5 minutes I still had no idea what they actually did. I took their free chachkis a D walked away.

I'm assuming this is typical?

If you've had a few drinks and don't have to talk to those guys ever again, it's fun to keep them going. So, what problem do you actually solve? Ya, but what use would I have for container orchestration for continuous integration? How can we bring your SaaS offering on site? Throw buzzwords back at them until one of your heads explodes.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

Speaking of cold calls generated like this, is it rude to just keep sending them to voicemail until they give up? The persistent ones I'll eventually answer and explain the whole 'state budget' thing, and only sometimes be suckered in to a demo

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo
I believe somebody posted the solution to persistent sales calls a few weeks ago.

vibur
Apr 23, 2004
The new job (:yotj:, btw) is an Apple-heavy office. What's the application of choice for management of iMacs/MBPs/Mac Pros?

Yes, yes, I know. Enterprise, Macs, etc.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

I'm not personally involved in it, but our IT team recently deployed Casper and seems happy with how it manages Macs.

Edit: which has apparently been renamed to "Jamf"? lmao how is that a product name. It sounds like a comic book fart noise.

Docjowles fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Dec 9, 2016

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

CloFan posted:

Speaking of cold calls generated like this, is it rude to just keep sending them to voicemail until they give up? The persistent ones I'll eventually answer and explain the whole 'state budget' thing, and only sometimes be suckered in to a demo

I'll invite them to take me out to lunch. If they do then YAY free lunch. If not? then please come to my office wherein my boss will proceed to waive his dick around and I get to bail mid meeting leaving the boss man tied up all day doing nothing and me dicking around at starbucks or some poo poo actually getting work done instead of wiping his breath off my neck.

Edit: also free webinars are EXCELLENT for filling out your calendar so that nobody can schedule you for poo poo that you don't want to attend. I once managed to fill out an entire work week in bullshit product demos. Thank God for Meraki.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

The Nards Pan posted:

I believe somebody posted the solution to persistent sales calls a few weeks ago.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/29/it_helpdesk_creates_oh_hold_hell/

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

CloFan posted:

Speaking of cold calls generated like this, is it rude to just keep sending them to voicemail until they give up? The persistent ones I'll eventually answer and explain the whole 'state budget' thing, and only sometimes be suckered in to a demo

I once had MaaS360/IBM call me and everybody else every single day for a month despite plainly explaining nothing is happening until management want to buy, if they do I will call YOU.

Cold call hell was meant for this.

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


vibur posted:

The new job (:yotj:, btw) is an Apple-heavy office. What's the application of choice for management of iMacs/MBPs/Mac Pros?

Yes, yes, I know. Enterprise, Macs, etc.

https://www.jamf.com/products/jamf-pro/

Every time

https://www.jamf.com/blog/mac-ibm-zero-to-30000-in-6-months/

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