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Acebuckeye13 posted:Nah, these are D&D peasants. Was this scene supposed to be a burn on Americans?
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CoolCab posted:the more of this i hear the more it feels like dwarf fortress patch notes Yyyyep. MANime in the sheets posted:I had a book years ago written by some crazy German dude about how, in 1940 and 1941, the Germans were massing on their eastern border merely as a defensive measure, and barely pre-empted an attack from Stalin by a matter of weeks. In fact the Russians were more aggressively deployed, provoked the Germans, etc. etc. I was taught this in an introductory lecture in my first (and only) semester of Eastern European History in Heidelberg ca. 2001. e: it was taught by some crusty emeritus. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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SimonCat posted:Was this scene supposed to be a burn on Americans? It's a dig at monarchists/traditionalists and could be a not only a reference to the radical socalist views of the seventies as well but also the series of civil wars of the 17th century which was basically a struggle between divine right and parliament. Or it is just a dig at democracy you nerd. Pick!
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OwlFancier posted:How... How does the author think agriculture worked with no concept of time? I think his justification is that they understood the concept of days passing, but nobody had calender's except the royalty and major churches so peasants would just vaguely figure out harvesting and planting times by the weather and checking the crops. Otherwise they passed their whole lives away not even knowing what year it was and barely being able to tell anyone how old they were.
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Has anyone seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Tiger_%282012_film%29 ?
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I want to read this horrible book now.
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Fangz posted:That's Suvorov's Icebreaker. And hes Russian, not German. Beyond the obvious appeal to Nazis, it's popular with Stalinists as well because it makes it seem like the Soviet Union was caught off guard due to focusing on offensive preparations and not due to Stalin being completely and totally suckered.
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Mr Enderby posted:btw, A World Lit Only by Fire also claims that peasants didn't wear any clothes in the summer. In what loving part of the world? Where does the loving author live that has a: a history with peasants in it, and b: a tropical climate?
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Mr Enderby posted:btw, A World Lit Only by Fire also claims that peasants didn't wear any clothes in the summer. Sounds like the author did a lot of drugs
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Maybe there's a typo and he meant to talk about pheasants.
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Fangz posted:Maybe there's a typo and he meant to talk about pheasants. By that logic its implied the pheasants wear clothes when it isn't summer.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:By that logic its implied the pheasants wear clothes when it isn't summer. Have you checked? E: More importantly, can you cite a published work that says they don't? I'm afraid we don't accept original research.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:By that logic its implied the pheasants wear clothes when it isn't summer. I dunno, doggy sweaters are pretty common nowadays. Maybe pheasant sweaters were common back then? 
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Davin Valkri posted:I dunno, doggy sweaters are pretty common nowadays. Maybe pheasant sweaters were common back then? The internet does not have pheasants dressed up as the swiss guard or as soldiers, so I can't confirm that they existed. 
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Peasants working the fields in the nude isn't as far-fetched as you guys make it out to be. Clothes were expensive and a peasant might only have a few articles of clothing to their name so it wouldn't be a bad idea to just not wear them if you're doing something in warm part of the year. This was probably more common with the men folk, of course. I haven't read AWLOBF, so I don't know if the author actually has evidence for it or not, but you guys are acting like somebody at the bottom rung of society with nothing to lose by tilling his fields in the nude is out of the question.
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I mean I think that wandering around naked would probably get you in trouble with the local clergy at that point in history. Also I would suggest that someone doing manual labour without something covering the fundament does have something to lose, and if they don't it's only because they already lost it.
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You absolutely do not want to be working in the fields naked. Shirtless, sure, but holy poo poo, you need something below the belt.
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my dad posted:You absolutely do not want to be working in the fields naked. Shirtless, sure, but holy poo poo, you need something below the belt.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Mm, if you haven't ever tried doing hard work without your trousers I recommend doing it once, so that you understand why you don't want to do it again.
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You really dont want to work in the fields without a shirt either, you need that shirt to protect you from the sun or you will end up significantly unwell. E: You also want a hat if at all possible.
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That part depends on the weather and climate. itt, nerds try to talk about farming 
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PittTheElder posted:This guy knows what's up. If it's up, the priest will definitely have something to say about it.
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Okay, so you've readded a shirt, a hat and pants. But there's no reason they couldn't be wearing some sort of sexy assless chaps.
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Polyakov posted:You really dont want to work in the fields without a shirt either, you need that shirt to protect you from the sun or you will end up significantly unwell. Not to mention that most people find getting their clothes dirty preferable to getting their skin dirty. Laundry wasn't done often by medieval peasants, but they still did it when they had time and when it was necessary (though it wasn't until very recently that we had dyes that wouldn't run out and soaps less harsh than lye, so good luck keeping your clothing from looking dull and colorless if you weren't rich as hell). Nudity wasn't a huge deal until the Christian expansion across Europe, at which point they started pasting fig leafs over naked statues and only depicting your balls in painting if you were supposed to be damned to hell. As soon as it became unacceptable to swing your dick around in public, I don't think you'd get many peasants working the fields looking like Olympic athletes.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Peasants working the fields in the nude isn't as far-fetched as you guys make it out to be. Clothes were expensive and a peasant might only have a few articles of clothing to their name so it wouldn't be a bad idea to just not wear them if you're doing something in warm part of the year. This was probably more common with the men folk, of course. I haven't read AWLOBF, so I don't know if the author actually has evidence for it or not, but you guys are acting like somebody at the bottom rung of society with nothing to lose by tilling his fields in the nude is out of the question. Nothing except awful sunburns, abrasions that get infected and lead to death, etc. Clothing isn't for modesty, it's for protection.
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I mean if your dick actually swings around you'd probably get laughed at by the Greeks anyway.
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Phanatic posted:Clothing isn't for modesty, it's for protection.
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Also for intimidating your enemy with how loving pimp you look.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Peasants working the fields in the nude isn't as far-fetched as you guys make it out to be. Clothes were expensive and a peasant might only have a few articles of clothing to their name so it wouldn't be a bad idea to just not wear them if you're doing something in warm part of the year. This was probably more common with the men folk, of course. I haven't read AWLOBF, so I don't know if the author actually has evidence for it or not, but you guys are acting like somebody at the bottom rung of society with nothing to lose by tilling his fields in the nude is out of the question. Nude working peasants sounds like one of those ideas you can only get if you have never done any honest work in your life. I mean, how removed do you have to be from normal life before writing this poo poo down unironically stops being weird?
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This is probably a fun alegory for all the Gay Black Hitler scenarios. Well, if you ignore sunstroke, sunburns, just how ridiculously sharp dry plant matter can be, just how dangerous infected cuts from farming tools can be, just how much dirt and worse you'd end up with in every crevice, etc, it's not hard to imagine farming work being done butt naked. Now, as for how Hitler totally could have invaded USA...
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I mean i do have a calendar with lots of photographs of naked farmers riding on tractors and carrying hay bales and it does look very appealing.
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my dad posted:This is probably a fun alegory for all the Gay Black Hitler scenarios.
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Modern American farming is mostly done from the comfort of air-conditioned combine harvesters and tractors; the main danger they face is that their ipod's battery runs out before they finish the north 400. Could totally be done naked.
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Polyakov posted:You really dont want to work in the fields without a shirt either, you need that shirt to protect you from the sun or you will end up significantly unwell. Not just sun but good god I abhore the idea of being eaten alive by horseflies! But you wear what you can, and sometimes I believe it must have resembled what Eero Järnefelt depicted on this slash and burn farmer in 1893. A famine had struck Finland and the painter wanted to show the rural folks' plight. I don't know at what point does a shirt cease to being a shirt and becomes a collection of separate threads but this isn't very far from it.  HEY GAL posted:insects, all you fuckers, INSECTS  
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Yup, anyone who insists that you can farm naked hasn't actually ever been to a field.
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Good god just walking around pants-less in long grass would be excruciating. Like the tips of the blades of grass constantly poking your bits, nonstop.
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Fangz posted:That's Suvorov's Icebreaker. No, that definitely wasn't it. Also I'm pretty sure that is not a German name.
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HEY GAL posted:insects, all you fuckers, INSECTS What do you think the "worse" in "dirt and worse in every crevice" was?
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Oh god, don't tell me someone else picked up that idiot's opinions.
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So I finally got around to my Crimean War 101 by finishing Trevor Royle's history of the conflict. It's funny to see how early Napoleon III's Imperial middle management style taking root so early, sad to see old Raglan five minutes from retirement more or less putting up with the insanity and just general sad horrible pity to the British, French, Russian, Ottoman and Sardinian soldiers who all took turns starving, getting ravaged by cholera and waiting for the conflict to end. (my favourite bit was when the infantry of the light division got confused during the battle of Alma by Russians showing up in their flank who they thought they were French soldiers so they awkwardly withdrawed right into the column all the blue balled British Guards moving up. Truly a glorious moment).
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