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Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
I remember there was some kind of weird instant-death condition with certain weapons in the first DR. Sledgehammers were really bad about it. I went to pummel Burt in that hardware store at the start of the game and accidentally ended up crushing his skull.

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GenericMartini
Oct 22, 2012

AYYYYY PAPI
yo if you don't accidentally kill one survivor with the sledgehammer you're not playing the game right

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

GenericMartini posted:

yo if you don't accidentally kill one survivor with the sledgehammer you're not playing the game right
Pretty much yeah.

I don't think I ever instant-killed anybody (except maybe once I was level 50 - I recall the ground-pound being especially nasty) but sledgehammers' ability to swing through crowds and hit nearby friendlies was certainly tricky at time.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

GenericMartini posted:

yo if you don't accidentally kill one survivor with the sledgehammer you're not playing the game right

I remember accidentally hitting one of the survivors you rescue from Jo the cop with Disembowel.

Turns out it only inflicts like 5% damage to a survivor, even though it instantly kills soldiers. Weird.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

GenericMartini posted:

yo if you don't accidentally kill one survivor with the sledgehammer you're not playing the game right
I heard the good word of whacking the living and undead in the head with mannequin torsos, so that never happened to me.

I did kill the three survivors you save from Cliff with a mini-chainsaw on purpose though because those idiots were going to make me fail the story.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
I mean, think of all the cool stuff they can do with "next gen" power: get rid of the survivor limit (or at least work around it easier), dynamically deform the environment as the game continues, have crazy amounts of drone weapons or other large-scale AI stuff, and just generally go hog wild with making it seem like an open-world simulation of the weirdest 72 hours of somebody's life.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
watching an LP of this, why the hell does frank sound like he's had a nose cold since 2006

wikipedia posted:

Terence J. Rotolo did not return to voice Frank West, with Dead Rising asset manager Trant Lee-Aimes stating, "We wanted to work with someone to provide a more grizzled, older take on Frank at this stage."[11] This change proved controversial among some fans, leading them to petition the developer to restore Rotolo as West

..oh.

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011
It's things like that that really make it obvious the developers don't get what people have liked about the series. If people wanted grizzled badass then they wouldn't want Frank. Give us the dorky awkward photojournalist.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Gobblecoque posted:

It's things like that that really make it obvious the developers don't get what people have liked about the series. If people wanted grizzled badass then they wouldn't want Frank. Give us the dorky awkward photojournalist.

You got that. Frank spends a big part of this game making a fool out of himself because nobody wants to give him a fistbump.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

that's the problem, they didn't want a goofy frank so they got a new voice actor to make a more bad-rear end, action-movie frank and then they made him a doofus anyway lol

GenericMartini
Oct 22, 2012

AYYYYY PAPI
I think it's mostly that the team wanted that, what they want and what they deliver is mostly going to be different. But it really painted a lot of perceptions before the game even came out. Still we ended up with goofy Frank so then I ask what was the point of the change?

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
It could be a lot of things, not least of which was that DR4 had what looks to be a largely new primary team on it, so they decided to go their own way and hire some other guy they liked. What's funny is that I just looked at Rotolo's IMDB page and he's just about exactly Frank's age; he just turned 50.

Funny story: I met Rotolo five years ago when Capcom was showing off OTR at E3. The voice he uses for Frank is just about exactly his own voice, which is weird to hear coming out of an actual living human.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

GenericMartini posted:

I think it's mostly that the team wanted that, what they want and what they deliver is mostly going to be different. But it really painted a lot of perceptions before the game even came out. Still we ended up with goofy Frank so then I ask what was the point of the change?

Well see it's a different kind of goofy Frank now. Now he's hip and with it and Goofy in all the committee approved ways that a man who looks like this

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/PORTRAIT-1-900x600.jpg
EDIT: Not at home, can't rehost on imgur

thinks a goofy character needs to be. I don't like to judge people on their appearances but yes, that is 100% the face of a man who thinks he's done everything he said.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
this game seems like a beta for dead rising 4.

to add: actual boss fights, side missions, final draft.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Game keeps crashing on PC for me.

GenericMartini
Oct 22, 2012

AYYYYY PAPI
The thing I liked the best about TJ was that he was such a random and crazy choice. Like the only thing Video Game wise I've heard him in was Dead Rising, like he's not a notable voice actor so I don't think he's taking a paycheck from anyone and the new guy they got apparently has only one credit which is DR4. So like to me it might be they didn't have the budget for the guy, unfortunately.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

GenericMartini posted:

The thing I liked the best about TJ was that he was such a random and crazy choice. Like the only thing Video Game wise I've heard him in was Dead Rising, like he's not a notable voice actor so I don't think he's taking a paycheck from anyone and the new guy they got apparently has only one credit which is DR4. So like to me it might be they didn't have the budget for the guy, unfortunately.

Unconfirmed (and may have been deconfirmed) it could have been the voice actor strike.

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
I'm pretty sure that this game went into development before the strike so I don't think that's it.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

GenericMartini posted:

The thing I liked the best about TJ was that he was such a random and crazy choice. Like the only thing Video Game wise I've heard him in was Dead Rising, like he's not a notable voice actor so I don't think he's taking a paycheck from anyone and the new guy they got apparently has only one credit which is DR4. So like to me it might be they didn't have the budget for the guy, unfortunately.

Rotolo's a stuntman by trade, but he's worked on a lot of tokusatsu shows and there was a lot of crossover between Capcom's writing staff and toku for a while; Dai Sato, for example, wrote a bunch of toku as well as both Resident Evil: Revelations games. I figured that explained it as well as anything.

One of the things about voice acting that's a little weird, especially on recent Capcom projects, is that some jobs are non-union, so actors will use a pseudonym and take them anyway. That was the case with Revelations 2, where most of the cast were recognizable actors using vague stage names. ("James Baker," who voiced Claire, is apparently Ali "Lightning/Liara" Hillis.) In DR4, "Victor Nosslo" is currently thought to be the Canadian actor Ty Olsson.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Frank's voice was cool, he had that nasal element that made his incredulity seem real.

His voice getting changed for no real reason and with a bullshit excuse is just one more sign that the devs have no idea what they're doing with the franchise.

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
Has anyone played through Dead Rising 2 on the PC recently enough to know if it's aged particularly well, or if the co-op is still functional? I'm tempted to play it again but don't want to waste my time if it doesn't really hold up technically.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Songbearer posted:

Has anyone played through Dead Rising 2 on the PC recently enough to know if it's aged particularly well, or if the co-op is still functional? I'm tempted to play it again but don't want to waste my time if it doesn't really hold up technically.
I played Off the Record on PC and that was fine. I doubt 2 would be much different.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Got a copy for my dad since he loved DR3 and state of decay and broke it in with him tonight, jesus christ, they REALLY want you to hate Frank don't they? Him laughing about unleashing zombies to kill people in the opening, to only caring about getting paid...Ugh. The actual zombie killing was alright but it crashed like 15mins into the mall proper and i didn't really care enough to play it some more. Also great that he makes annoyed quips when you try to rescue survivors, these writers really 'get' Frank.


His stupid quips in general are really annoying and nothing like Frank at all. a "that's what she said" joke in 2016 as well.

Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Dec 9, 2016

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Does 2 / OtR co-op work on PC anymore? GFWL and all...

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

Does 2 / OtR co-op work on PC anymore? GFWL and all...
They were both moved over to Steamworks a year or two ago.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Time to reinstall!

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

Songbearer posted:

Has anyone played through Dead Rising 2 on the PC recently enough to know if it's aged particularly well, or if the co-op is still functional? I'm tempted to play it again but don't want to waste my time if it doesn't really hold up technically.

I don't know about co-op but I played DR2 PC again a few months ago and it's still plenty of fun and doesn't feel really dated or anything.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump
DR2 doesn't feel even the slightest bit dated and is still the best game in the series, especially OTR. if you aren't burned out on it or interested In seeing where else it goes that's always the best one to play

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
In the lead up to DR4, I watched Brownman do his streams of the DR games on the Xbone. They are still strong as gently caress... though they can crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Gmh3T5yW8

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Good Citizen posted:

DR2 doesn't feel even the slightest bit dated and is still the best game in the series, especially OTR. if you aren't burned out on it or interested In seeing where else it goes that's always the best one to play
I dunno the redneck sniper squad was more annoying than GLASS OF PISS

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Onmi posted:

In the lead up to DR4, I watched Brownman do his streams of the DR games on the Xbone. They are still strong as gently caress... though they can crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Gmh3T5yW8
That's just the Bone being the Bone. I never ran into a single problem on PC.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Accordion Man posted:

That's just the Bone being the Bone. I never ran into a single problem on PC.

I wouldn't know, I don't own a Bone.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
I buckled and bought it. It's not Dead Rising, but I'm having a bit of fun anyway. It's more like Final Fight meets Snyder's Dawn of the Dead, I guess. The zombies being relentless is a pain in the dick sometimes, they kite to you from a crazy distance so window shopping can be a pain in the dick.

Also, anyone know where the key is in Hamburger Fiefdom?
The map says its right in the entrance, but I can't find it.
Edit: Map said it was on the ground floor. It's not.

Diesel Fucker fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Dec 9, 2016

null_pointer
Nov 9, 2004

Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

Bought DR4 for the PC and while the graphics are fine, the audio is totally buggered. It's like the center channel (even though my headphones aren't set to 7.1) is missing, so dialog either sounds like it's coming from down a long hallway, or it's completely missing.

Reinstalled DR3 and DR2:OTR to try and satisfy my zombie-killing urges until they manage to patch it.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Onmi posted:

In the lead up to DR4, I watched Brownman do his streams of the DR games on the Xbone. They are still strong as gently caress... though they can crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Gmh3T5yW8

Man, in all the hours I've put into DR2/OTR I've never seen that moustache. I need to know where to find it.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

King Vidiot posted:

Man, in all the hours I've put into DR2/OTR I've never seen that moustache. I need to know where to find it.

I believe it was DLC

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Lasher posted:

Also, anyone know where the key is in Hamburger Fiefdom?
The map says its right in the entrance, but I can't find it.
Edit: Map said it was on the ground floor. It's not.

The map often lies about things like that, I've found. You have to go up the stairs at ground level, follow the balcony around to the Fiefdom's second floor, and goof around on the ceiling beams to find a hidden area.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Onmi posted:

I believe it was DLC

Oh yeah, the fireman DLC that I don't have. Might have to get it if it's on a deep discount, just for that 'tache.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

King Vidiot posted:

Oh yeah, the fireman DLC that I don't have. Might have to get it if it's on a deep discount, just for that 'tache.

It also makes you run super fast holding a survivor.

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GenericMartini
Oct 22, 2012

AYYYYY PAPI
Did they ever get the DLC to work on PC? Like I loved the stache on Frank in the 360 version but capcom hosed up the DLC on steam

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