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We know why they did it, it just wasn't worth it. No new information or character beats were established. Fisk is a physical threat? We knew that. Fisk would act super protective about Vanessa? Duh. Fisk would kill anybody he felt he needed to? Doi.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:So that's clearly Gwen on the 42nd second mark, I think you're reaching way too hard on these, but that's definitely Howard Stark on the wall back there.
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redbackground posted:We know why they did it, it just wasn't worth it. No new information or character beats were established. Fisk is a physical threat? We knew that. Fisk would act super protective about Vanessa? Duh. Fisk would kill anybody he felt he needed to? Doi. It established that main characters could die. Which is something people whine about.
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Yeah turns out "main characters you care about aren't safe" isn't a selling point in serial media.
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah turns out "main characters you care about aren't safe" isn't a selling point in serial media.   Yeah but other than those serial media juggernauts, good point Sion fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Dec 9, 2016 21:26
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Someone needs to update that second one! 
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Dec 9, 2016 21:28
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To be fair those shows are bad. And GOT has plot armor, for certain characters.
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redbackground posted:Someone needs to update that second one! And the first one, actually. There's one too many living Stark kids, for one.
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Dec 9, 2016 22:10
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Yeah but daredevil has like 6 characters
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair those shows are bad. Ignite Memories posted:Yeah but daredevil has like 6 characters neither of which are points which detract from the point I was trying to make 
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Hadn't they just killed off Fisk's best friend? Or was that a little later?
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greatn posted:Hadn't they just killed off Fisk's best friend? Or was that a little later? They had; Fisk asks Ulrich about it before he kills him.
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Sion posted:neither of which are points which detract from the point I was trying to make Well at least you had the good sense to tell us that on behalf of yourself
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Completely forgot about the Spider-Man Trailer, drat. Vulture looks kickass, but I heard shocker was in it.
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twistedmentat posted:Completely forgot about the Spider-Man Trailer, drat. I think he's the black dude where there's some sort of energy blast.
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twistedmentat posted:Completely forgot about the Spider-Man Trailer, drat. Shocker is the black guy with the weird energy arm. Vulture has it when he's flying through the cruise ship.
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Shocker's mostly in the Euro trailer I think.
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Shocker's the guy who punches the school bus to send the back end spinning. He's featured more in the international trailer.
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Perry Normal posted:
I read a guess that he might be Miles's uncle and I would love that.
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Unmature posted:I read a guess that he might be Miles's uncle and I would love that. Someone suggested Hobie Brown, and I think that works great. There's no reason to do anyone related to Miles now because it would be a really long time before he's in any movies.
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Miles' uncle is Hobie Brown.
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Lobok posted:Shocker's the guy who punches the school bus to send the back end spinning. He's featured more in the international trailer. Yea, watched that and it's way more obvious. I would not be surprised if the mid credits sequence is the Iron Spider costume.
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The Spider-Man trailer is great. I still don't care for the web armpits, but that's irrelevant. Shame about "Ned Leeds". On that sort of note though, I think it's great that both of Peter's love interests are Black. Eagerly awaiting "Face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot" *roll credits* when they apply makeup to Zendaya. RDJ is such a perfect Tony Stark it's unreal.
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GoT tends to advance the plot significantly when one of its dozens of characters dies, and that's why it's watchable. WD kills people in emotionally manipulative ways for bullshit reasons and it's why I stopped reading the comic or watching the show years ago. Daredevil has a cast of, like, eight people, and they killed one of their best. They also killed Elektra but we knew that was coming and besides that she was aggressively unlikable.
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So what the gently caress is going on with Zendaya's role? Am I on crack or did Kevin Feige not officially confirm she was playing MJ? But I keep seeing poo poo that she's actually "Michelle" again.
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Rhyno posted:So what the gently caress is going on with Zendaya's role? Am I on crack or did Kevin Feige not officially confirm she was playing MJ? But I keep seeing poo poo that she's actually "Michelle" again. Nobody actually confirmed anything, but Comic Book Internet ran with it anyway because Comic Book Internet. Zendaya herself has denied it recently, but it was very tongue in cheek.
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Rhyno posted:So what the gently caress is going on with Zendaya's role? Am I on crack or did Kevin Feige not officially confirm she was playing MJ? But I keep seeing poo poo that she's actually "Michelle" again. What? Marvel avoiding saying something that will upset racists/homophobes to protect their bottom line? I've never heard of such a thing since the last time Alonso or Breevorrt did an interview.
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Rhyno posted:So what the gently caress is going on with Zendaya's role? Am I on crack or did Kevin Feige not officially confirm she was playing MJ? But I keep seeing poo poo that she's actually "Michelle" again. They've been dancing around it but I get the basic feeling that it was supposed to be a surprise twist, got leaked, and now they're doing the "No, Benedict Cumberbatch isn't playing Khan" thing with it.
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I forget was that before or after "Christoph Waltz isn't playing Blofeld, honest!"?
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Gaz-L posted:I forget was that before or after "Christoph Waltz isn't playing Blofeld, honest!"? It's 2 years earlier.
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See I swear Feige said she was MJ in an interview.
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The real Mary Jane will be the friends that Spider-Man made along the way. I think it's pretty likely that she's Mary Jane, just because they seem reluctant to even give a name for the character.
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She'll be like, Michelle Juliana "but her friends call her MJ", just to ensure no-one's happy with the compromise.
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There's a cut up interview from Nov 1st where it is implied that Feige has confirmed it. But without the entire interview (which doesn't seem to be on the site anymore) I can't sort out what I remember hearing. http://comicbook.com/marvel/2016/11/02/kevin-feige-says-next-mcu-films-will-move-away-from-completely-w/
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Feige also mentioned the actors they cast were specifically chosen because they wanted to to do younger and more modern versions of classic characters and mentioned Holland, Tomei, and Zendaya. Unless "Michelle" is a classic Spider-Man character I can't remember, then I think it is pretty obvious that they wanted this to be a surprise twist and are trying to do a "Blofeld" with the name.
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SlimGoodbody posted:GoT tends to advance the plot significantly when one of its dozens of characters dies, and that's why it's watchable. WD kills people in emotionally manipulative ways for bullshit reasons and it's why I stopped reading the comic or watching the show years ago. Daredevil has a cast of, like, eight people, and they killed one of their best. They also killed Elektra but we knew that was coming and besides that she was aggressively unlikable. okay cool how much of that relates to its popularity (protip : daredevil aint poo poo next to GOT but whatever cool post)
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It's gonna turn out if Spider-Man smokes weed he loses his powers. That's the mary Jane. The Vulture is trying get Mary Jane for his chronic pain from his cancer treatments, but the film will take a firm anti-marijuana position, with Spider-Man directly stating to the camera that the substance should remain a schedule 1 narcotic.
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I keep hoping that this goes beyond Zendaya and they'll reveal that "Ned Leeds" is actually, rightfully, named Ganke.
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