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Lowen SoDium posted:Of all the reasons I have seen people dislike a phone... 
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I would return my pixel if the buttons were loose too. If they are loose when the phone is new it's only going to get worse. The clicks are so satisfying you're missing on 98% of the experience of owning a pixel if you don't have solid buttons
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Dec 9, 2016 17:18
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ratbert90 posted:This. You plug your phone into a dock and you get full windows, you unplug it from the dock you get windows Mobile. Having the ability to run actual honest to goodness win32 apps would be pretty cool. Literally no one wants this at all. People are actively trying to figure out ways to remove traditional computers from their lives, the last thing a normal person wants is their phone to be able to be drive-by cryptolockered because it's running Windows. It would be like the anti-iPad in that it would work poorly, you couldn't buy one for your mother, and it wouldn't have any software worth having. Oh it wouldn't make any money at all. Also great is the way that you can drop your phone or have it stolen and no longer own a computer because they're the same device. And the fact that a phone and computer are designed with different power constraints, cooling constraints, hardware needs, and use cases and the idea of having one device for all of that means that it will be lovely at both. It's just the dumbest idea for so many reasons that every few seconds you think of another reason it's stupid.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:29
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Using the swiping functionality of the Google keyboard, I feel sometimes that it's running experiments a la intentionally faulty Facebook app. To train some neural network or for research or whatever. Some words it inserts aren't even remotely in the territory of the swiped shapes.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:33
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ratbert90 posted:This. You plug your phone into a dock and you get full windows, you unplug it from the dock you get windows Mobile. Having the ability to run actual honest to goodness win32 apps would be pretty cool.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:35
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Combat Pretzel posted:Using the swiping functionality of the Google keyboard, I feel sometimes that it's running experiments a la intentionally faulty Facebook app. To train some neural network or for research or whatever. Some words it inserts aren't even remotely in the territory of the swiped shapes. If you think Google is loving with you, maybe they are.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:37
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Combat Pretzel posted:Using the swiping functionality of the Google keyboard, I feel sometimes that it's running experiments a la intentionally faulty Facebook app. To train some neural network or for research or whatever. Some words it inserts aren't even remotely in the territory of the swiped shapes. Of all the crazy conspiracy theories on the internet this one is so believable I hesitate to even call it speculative. I've always had problems with its inconsistency but I've never thought to connect that to their love of live A/B testing. You're a genius!
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Dec 9, 2016 17:47
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LastInLine posted:Literally no one wants this at all. People are actively trying to figure out ways to remove traditional computers from their lives, the last thing a normal person wants is their phone to be able to be drive-by cryptolockered because it's running Windows. It would be like the anti-iPad in that it would work poorly, you couldn't buy one for your mother, and it wouldn't have any software worth having. Oh it wouldn't make any money at all. nimper posted:Winblow$$$sss am I right guys?
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Dec 9, 2016 18:15
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LastInLine posted:Literally no one wants this at all. People are actively trying to figure out ways to remove traditional computers from their lives, the last thing a normal person wants is their phone to be able to be drive-by cryptolockered because it's running Windows. You do realize that windows mobile IS windows right? There hasn't been a drive by cryptolocker done to it. quote:It would be like the anti-iPad in that it would work poorly, you couldn't buy one for your mother, and it wouldn't have any software worth having. Oh it wouldn't make any money at all. Windows doesn't have any software worth having? News to me.  quote:Also great is the way that you can drop your phone or have it stolen and no longer own a computer because they're the same device. I am going to assume this isn't the only computer most people would use, and the same could be said for laptops as well? quote:And the fact that a phone and computer are designed with different power constraints, cooling constraints, hardware needs, and use cases I am sure all the engineers at Microsoft and Qualcomm never thought of that; they should have consulted Something Awful's internet forums user LastInLine before they even bothered. It would have saved them a lot of time. quote:and the idea of having one device for all of that means that it will be lovely at both.
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Dec 9, 2016 18:48
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If Windows Mobile had a better app ecosystem and selection, I might get one, there are some neat looking devices.
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Dec 9, 2016 18:50
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CLAM DOWN posted:If Windows Mobile had a better app ecosystem and selection, I might get one, there are some neat looking devices. Yeah, that is true. I miss my 8x and 920. WM is a solid platform and if the windows mobile store ever catches on then there would be a ton more wm apps as well.
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Dec 9, 2016 18:52
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I really like the current thread title, but there's some real contenders in the past 60 posts as well. Decisions, decisions....
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Dec 9, 2016 19:12
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Android: On the Spectrum I actually thought the Daydream was cool for 360 photos. I forgot I had taken 360 photos a year or so ago and it was a bit jarring. I was sitting in the same spot I took them and it was around the time my son was learning to crawl. Pretty cool preserved memories
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Dec 9, 2016 19:25
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As people mentioned, the issue with using it as a continuum device is that there still is massive lack of support for properly phone formatted apps. So, you would compromise on your mobile experience just so you could physically share the same hardware when you want to use it as a full computer. This doesn't make a lot of sense when you can easily get a sub $200 win 10 computer that will perform just as well. Cloud storage sync solves the rest of the shared files problem. I like win 10, I really do, but I really only use my PC anymore to game or connect to work's VDI environment.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:29
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bull3964 posted:I like win 10, I really do, but I really only use my PC anymore to game or connect to work's VDI environment. Same. My PC is for gaming and work primarily (work includes hobbies like some coding and web dev I do). Everyday life, social media, communications, etc, are all my phone now.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:32
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LastInLine posted:Literally no one wants this at all. You're wrong, I "literally" want this. I was so excited for Ubuntu phone because it promised the same thing. What is so crazy about wanting to just slap your phone into a dock when you get home to keep playing a game or to do some work or write some emails on a full size keyboard or whatever? poo poo it's the whole reason the Nintendo Switch is going to sell like hotcakes ( at least at first anyway ) so people can carry their console with them - use the screen when mobile and dock to use their TV at home. Of all the  posts in this thread, this one is up there. "MY opinion is that NO ONE LITERALLY wants this and let me explain MY reasons why NO ONE does"
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Dec 9, 2016 19:35
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You do understand there's no oxygen left for a competitor to the iOS/Android hegemony, right? There's no way anyone, especially Microsoft which is a company synonymous with that horrible machine people are forced to use at work, can enter the mobile space because no matter what it's their 5 apps (that Microsoft paid for developers to make because they wouldn't if it were up to them) versus Every App Everybody Wants and Already Uses on Android or iOS. Even if Microsoft pays for the app, that app won't get future development because guess what? It's retarded to spend even a dime maintaining an app that a rounding error of Apple's monthly iPhone sales uses, so those few apps just languish and fall further and further behind their competitors further weakening this competitor to the iOS/Android duopoly. You've also got the fact that Microsoft has recently and repeatedly hosed over anyone dumb enough to develop for their platforms. They've shed OSs, APIs, and development tools over and over attempting to gain a foothold in an industry where at best they could maybe get a 1% marketshare. That's a uniquely Microsoft problem, of course, no other company could be as incompetent as they've been in the mobile space, but there it is. One might call this speculation but the fact is that we already know all of this to be true because one company was actually dumb enough to pour billions of dollars at trying to be the third mobile OS platform. What company could be so shortsighted, so idiotic, so full of hubris to not only think that breaking into that market was possible but that they could do it? Why, it was Microsoft. They spent $10b and destroyed an entire European nation's economy to get beaten by Blackberry (again lol). I mean I think it's funny to watch Microsoft keep loving that chicken but it's even funnier to think there are people out there wishing they'd gently caress it harder.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:39
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bull3964 posted:I like win 10, I really do, but I really only use my PC anymore to game or connect to work's VDI environment. CLAM DOWN posted:Same. My PC is for gaming and work primarily (work includes hobbies like some coding and web dev I do). Everyday life, social media, communications, etc, are all my phone now. Congratulations, you're like most people. TollTheHounds posted:You're wrong, I "literally" want this. I was so excited for Ubuntu phone because it promised the same thing. What's crazy about it? How about the fact that you can do all of that now, without the dock and without putting all your eggs into one ARM-powered basket? You can--TODAY--walk in from composing an email on the go, sit down at your computer not put your phone into a dock, and in GMail your draft will be exactly as you left it on your phone without you doing anything at all. That spreadsheet you started on your phone? It doesn't exist! Because no one's ever been dumb enough to start a spreadsheet on a phone! That game you were playing? It was either designed to be played on a phone and would be terrible on a PC or the other way around! It's a use case that does not and will never exist! And you still haven't addressed why I'd want my laptop to run on an ARM chip designed for using the least amount of electricity instead of the Intel chip that can actually do things. Wait! How about they put the Intel CPU, some additional RAM and maybe a GPU in the dock? And then get rid of the dock part that your phone goes into and call the thing a PC?
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Dec 9, 2016 19:50
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Verizon is taking their update withholding to a new ridiculous level by refusing to push the Note 7 disabling update.
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Dec 9, 2016 20:14
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Thermopyle posted:I really like the current thread title, but there's some real contenders in the past 60 posts as well. Decisions, decisions.... ratbert90 posted:they should have consulted Something Awful's internet forums user LastInLine before they even bothered. I voted 
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Dec 9, 2016 20:31
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LastInLine posted:What's crazy about it? How about the fact that you can do all of that now, without the dock and without putting all your eggs into one ARM-powered basket? You can--TODAY--walk in from composing an email on the go, sit down at your computer not put your phone into a dock, and in GMail your draft will be exactly as you left it on your phone without you doing anything at all. That spreadsheet you started on your phone? It doesn't exist! Because no one's ever been dumb enough to start a spreadsheet on a phone! That game you were playing? It was either designed to be played on a phone and would be terrible on a PC or the other way around! It's a use case that does not and will never exist! I would say it's a case of minimalism, I suppose. Yes today I can continue an email from drafts, but I have to take my laptop out of my bag, put it on it's dock, wait for it to boot up, sign in, wait for things to finish loading, open up Chrome or my local email app, THEN continue. vs. Take my phone out of my pocket, put it on dock, continue. See how much easier that is? Yes, I could just finish whatever I'm doing on my phone, but despite the strides made on mobile phones there's nothing that replaces a full sized keyboard for typing anything. I hate having to type more than a few words on a phone. With "one device to rule them all" it means I have one device that needs updates, one device that needs securing, one device - period. I don't care if it's Microsoft, Android, runs on ARM or whatever - as long as whatever OS or device it is can handle Android Studio + Pro Tools/usb input ( plus all the basics already present like email, music, browser ), then shut up and take my money. as for this: LastInLine posted:That game you were playing? It was either designed to be played on a phone and would be terrible on a PC or the other way around! It's a use case that does not and will never exist! Where did I say I wanted to play a "phone game" on a PC? I want to continue playing a game on my phone, that is already running at 1080p+ ( depending on your phone ) on a large 55"+ TV that is running also at 1080p+. So it will look the same only bigger and I can sit on my couch to do it. Why exactly is that a use case that does not and will never exist? That's literally the point of the Nintendo Switch.
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Dec 9, 2016 20:43
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AlexF posted:Yeah, I'm really OCD about my expensive gadgets and I'm not really happy with it. I'd love to change this, but it's buried so deep into my brain that I can't turn it off No, we're making fun of you because you're a headcase and freaking out about volume buttons.
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Dec 9, 2016 20:52
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Its always the buttons that bring out the odd ones, this isn't the first time
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Dec 9, 2016 21:16
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TollTheHounds posted:I would say it's a case of minimalism, I suppose. quote:Yes today I can continue an email from drafts, but I have to take my laptop out of my bag, put it on it's dock, wait for it to boot up, sign in, wait for things to finish loading, open up Chrome or my local email app, THEN continue. quote:Where did I say I wanted to play a "phone game" on a PC? I want to continue playing a game on my phone, that is already running at 1080p+ ( depending on your phone ) on a large 55"+ TV that is running also at 1080p+. So it will look the same only bigger and I can sit on my couch to do it. Why exactly is that a use case that does not and will never exist? That's literally the point of the Nintendo Switch. sleepwalkers fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Dec 9, 2016 21:17
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bull3964 posted:Verizon is taking their update withholding to a new ridiculous level by refusing to push the Note 7 disabling update. I just read that. I wonder how the person is going to be able to call for 911 when it explodes on them??? They'll push it out after christmas, when its slow. They don't want new sales being muddled by in person phone swaps (no $$$).
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Dec 9, 2016 21:24
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Hey guys I really don't like the way my pixels bezels are shaped, it reflects light oddly. Anybody else have this problem?
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Dec 9, 2016 21:28
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Nintendo switch has physical controllers that snap on the side when in portable mode, so that's why it works for that device but would be a mess for a phone.incoherent posted:I just read that. I wonder how the person is going to be able to call for 911 when it explodes on them??? Yeah, they later said they'll push it Jan 8th.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:28
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bull3964 posted:Nintendo switch has physical controllers that snap on the side when in portable mode, so that's why it works for that device but would be a mess for a phone. Was that Verizon or Sprint? or both?
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Dec 9, 2016 21:29
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For anyone in the UK considering a Google Pixel: This is the company that Google is using to ship their phones There are no other options. I'd hold off until it becomes available through Amazon etc, unless you live near one of their depots.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:30
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nimper posted:Was that Verizon or Sprint? Verizon, dunno what Sprint is doing. Probably pushing out with the rest.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:33
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bull3964 posted:Verizon, dunno what Sprint is doing. Probably pushing out with the rest. http://newsroom.sprint.com/blogs/devices-apps-and-services/sprint-samsung-galaxy-note7-exchange-update--dec-9-2016.htm They're waiting until January 8th. Pitchforks here, get yer pitchforks!
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Dec 9, 2016 21:38
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TollTheHounds posted:Where did I say I wanted to play a "phone game" on a PC? I want to continue playing a game on my phone, that is already running at 1080p+ ( depending on your phone ) on a large 55"+ TV that is running also at 1080p+. So it will look the same only bigger and I can sit on my couch to do it. Why exactly is that a use case that does not and will never exist? That's literally the point of the Nintendo Switch. So...you want to be able to throw your phone in a dock while you hop on the couch and keep playing clash of clans or whatever, except with a controller or mouse and keyboard? Or are you saying you want full versions of console games on your phone a la the Switch, except on a device as small as a phone? Either way, you're sticking something everyone uses all the time in an immobile dock. What happens when someone calls you or you get a text? What happens when you get a notification you want to check out? I get what you mean and it's not like the concept couldn't work or I don't like it in theory but it's like some kind of homercar Padfone.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:59
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I'm with button dude. For 870 loving euros this thing better have nice clicky buttons.
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Dec 9, 2016 22:17
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He's not complaining that it's mushy, just that the button rattles around. Mine is clicky but I can rock it towards the front and back of the phone a little bit. I can't get it to make a sound while doing that, though.
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Dec 9, 2016 22:29
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YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:Hey guys I really don't like the way my pixels bezels are shaped, it reflects light oddly. Anybody else have this problem? I honestly can't tell if you're being earnest or making fun of people with odd complaints.
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Dec 9, 2016 22:39
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You'd think after almost every Nexus model had issues with loose buttons they'd have worked to get it right for their new premium phone. That said mine like most is nice and clicky this time round, hallelujah.
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Dec 9, 2016 23:06
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Most people throw their phone in a case and never touch the buttons directly. There has to be a certain allowance for manufacturing variances. I can imagine a complaint if the button moved to the point where it could jam sideways in the spot, a little wiggle though is acceptable. These are mass manufactured devices, they can't start tossing out units due to a few mm wiggle in a button nor is this phone unique. Do a search on iPhone home button loose to see similar results. It's like when people returned kindles over and over again because the light spreader wasn't PERFECTLY uniform. Perfect is the anomaly in most devices and abusing return policies over and over makes things worse for everyone. I've seen posts where people have exchanged the same TV 6 times. At some point you need to either accept the flaws of the thing you purchased or move on. Hunting for the unicorn is fool's errand.
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Dec 9, 2016 23:22
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Put a glass screen protector on my pixel XL, I don't know how people use these things. It's hideous and slowly becoming covered in very visible prints
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bull3964 posted:Most people throw their phone in a case and never touch the buttons directly. There has to be a certain allowance for manufacturing variances. I can imagine a complaint if the button moved to the point where it could jam sideways in the spot, a little wiggle though is acceptable. Returning items that have defects is literally the entire point of refund policies. I mean, I get what you mean, but you can't really fault people for expecting something they bought to work as advertised, especially when you're spending more money for what's supposed to be a quality product.
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LastInLine posted:Of all the crazy conspiracy theories on the internet this one is so believable I hesitate to even call it speculative. I've always had problems with its inconsistency but I've never thought to connect that to their love of live A/B testing. You're a genius!
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