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Syenite
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John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

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Old Binsby
Jun 27, 2014

Hello sex thread. This is a long-rear end piece of material to read, so my sincere apologies if I'm being redundant here but yall have been discussing fingerbabies a lot lately and that's not really relevant to my question.

My partner doesn't really get anything from having my penis in her, sadly, cause I kind of enjoy that. We do a lot to make sure we both have a good time before and after and that works, but I'm still wondering: do people have good experience with vibrating stuff we can use so she's more stimulated while I'm (we're) doing the old in-out? Which? Cock rings, vibrating things she can use herself?

Also, related, is pjur regarded as a good quality brand lube? I need something for sensitive skin that's compatible with condoms and works a while cause I hated the water-based lube that I had once -- I needed to re-apply that sometimes which sucked. Granted, that stuff was bottom tier poo poo most likely (been a while). If I want something longer lasting and non-sticky that won't irritate, is silicone the way to go? As I understand, it would also work in water because of the nature of silicone, which would be pretty cool imo.

Thanks!

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Old Binsby posted:

Hello sex thread. This is a long-rear end piece of material to read, so my sincere apologies if I'm being redundant here but yall have been discussing fingerbabies a lot lately and that's not really relevant to my question.

My partner doesn't really get anything from having my penis in her, sadly, cause I kind of enjoy that. We do a lot to make sure we both have a good time before and after and that works, but I'm still wondering: do people have good experience with vibrating stuff we can use so she's more stimulated while I'm (we're) doing the old in-out? Which? Cock rings, vibrating things she can use herself?

Also, related, is pjur regarded as a good quality brand lube? I need something for sensitive skin that's compatible with condoms and works a while cause I hated the water-based lube that I had once -- I needed to re-apply that sometimes which sucked. Granted, that stuff was bottom tier poo poo most likely (been a while). If I want something longer lasting and non-sticky that won't irritate, is silicone the way to go? As I understand, it would also work in water because of the nature of silicone, which would be pretty cool imo.

Thanks!

So PIV does feel good for her, just not good enough to climax, right? The only time I got a woman to cum from PIV is I put a cock ring around my balls and did it doggy style, so each thrust bumped her clit. Most women can't cum without some clitoral stimulation, so do that or get in there with hands or a wand.

Pjur is a good brand, yes.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
I bought my girlfriend a magic wand and loves it. She has come from piv before, but it's easier and more intense for her. She refuses to have sex without it now. So try hitachi magic wand.

Makes the sex a bit awkward for the guy though, if she uses it in the middle of piv though :argh:

Old Binsby
Jun 27, 2014

hoobajoo posted:

So PIV does feel good for her, just not good enough to climax, right? The only time I got a woman to cum from PIV is I put a cock ring around my balls and did it doggy style, so each thrust bumped her clit. Most women can't cum without some clitoral stimulation, so do that or get in there with hands or a wand.

Pjur is a good brand, yes.

Well yes it kind of feels good she tells me but it doesn't excite her enough to keep her lubed naturally, which in turns means she gets less excited and you can see where this is going. Some nights we don't penetrate at all cause of the issues she has with it. I'm fine with that and understand, but I'm also trying to find a way to work around this because I really enjoy the intimacy that comes with it. We have gotten quite good at all kinds of manual and oral stimulation as a result of this, as you might imagine. Still, I was hoping good lube will help a little with the penetration bit so it will at least keep feeling not-bad and help stimulate her some other way so she enjoys it more. I don't specifically expect her to climax from thrusting (with or without assistance from other things), cause that doesn't happen for all women in any case, I just hope to make things a little more enjoyable.

My penis is shaped wrong for her specifically I guess, she quite likes it when I use my fingers her to stimulate her g-spot for a while (she doesn't cum this way but she likes it a lot more than my dick, I notice), but there are basically no positions where I can make her feel as good loving her. It also doesn't help (I swear I'm not humblebragging) that my dick is kinda thick, wish it was a little slimmer. Maybe the lube helps there too. She had enjoyable sex with other partners previously and with me too, but it's somehow gotten worse after a while (couple months we're talking). Anyway sorry for the sorta rambling posts, any suggestions are welcome. Actually feels good to post this poo poo, this stuff is kind of bothering me it now that I think about it. Maybe someone has had experiences like this or suggestions that help.

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Slaan posted:

I bought my girlfriend a magic wand and loves it. She has come from piv before, but it's easier and more intense for her. She refuses to have sex without it now. So try hitachi magic wand.

Makes the sex a bit awkward for the guy though, if she uses it in the middle of piv though :argh:

Those things always sound a little extreme. Are they pleasing to a majority of women or only for those who prefer very intense stimulation?

Old Binsby fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Dec 9, 2016

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Old Binsby posted:

Well yes it kind of feels good she tells me but it doesn't excite her enough to keep her lubed naturally, which in turns means she gets less excited and you can see where this is going. Some nights we don't penetrate at all cause of the issues she has with it. I'm fine with that and understand, but I'm also trying to find a way to work around this because I really enjoy the intimacy that comes with it. We have gotten quite good at all kinds of manual and oral stimulation as a result of this, as you might imagine. Still, I was hoping good lube will help a little with the penetration bit so it will at least keep feeling not-bad and help stimulate her some other way so she enjoys it more. I don't specifically expect her to climax from thrusting (with or without assistance from other things), cause that doesn't happen for all women in any case, I just hope to make things a little more enjoyable.

My penis is shaped wrong for her specifically I guess, she quite likes it when I use my fingers her to stimulate her g-spot for a while (she doesn't cum this way but she likes it a lot more than my dick, I notice), but there are basically no positions where I can make her feel as good loving her. It also doesn't help (I swear I'm not humblebragging) that my dick is kinda thick, wish it was a little slimmer. Maybe the lube helps there too. She had enjoyable sex with other partners previously and with me too, but it's somehow gotten worse after a while (couple months we're talking). Anyway sorry for the sorta rambling posts, any suggestions are welcome. Actually feels good to post this poo poo, this stuff is kind of bothering me it now that I think about it. Maybe someone has had experiences like this or suggestions that help.

I'm a pervert that likes large insertions, so you've come to the right guy. It usually helps if she cums once before you stick it in, since it adds lubrication and loosens up a bit, but it sounds like you probably already do that. You're on the right track though, lots of manual stimulation and using a wand and/or lube are all the right things to try. If she likes dildos she could get one your size or a bit larger and use it to masturbate; it's a way for her get used to the size without having to think about pleasing anyone else.

Could also smoke the reefer if you're so inclined, especially if she's tensing up or feeling anxious.

Old Binsby posted:

Those things always sound a little extreme. Are they pleasing to a majority of women or only for those who prefer very intense stimulation?

Almost every woman I've talked sex with loves them; you can also put them on a dimmer switch or use a silicone cover to lower the intensity if it's a bit too much.

hoobajoo fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Dec 9, 2016

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Silicone based lubes are good but I'd suggest trying some coconut oil first. My wife and I used pjur for a while and its great for our applications - her vagina is very sensitive and she's a prolific squirter so most/all water-based lubes don't work well for us for one/both reasons - but then we ran out and tried coconut oil in a pinch. Just as good, cheaper and a lot easier to find. Oh - and also easier to clean up.

e: missed the condom requirement.

Geoj fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Dec 10, 2016

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out
No oils with condoms, though.

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

The vast majority of women cannot come from just penetration, and it feels "nice" but that's about it. You and your ladyfriend are perfectly normal.

Solution: play with her clit at the same time as you penetrate her.

Trying to get a lady off purely from penetration is equivalent to trying to get a man off just by sucking his balls. On the other hand, the clitoris and the penis both develop from the same structure during gestation - that's where all the sensation is. In other words: porn lies.

BirdOfPlay
Feb 19, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Old Binsby posted:

It also doesn't help (I swear I'm not humblebragging) that my dick is kinda thick, wish it was a little slimmer.

You mentioned cock rings but then said this. Does she find your dick too thick? A properly sized cock ring will make your dick bigger (in terms of girth, not length) and more veiny. It can still be a pleasurable experience, just be aware of what you're getting into. Also, try out the sizing during masturbation if you do want to experiment with cock rings. Too small can be painful and prevent you from actually ejaculating. Not a fun thing to discover during sexy times. Lastly, vibrating cock rings can be fun and remove the need for someone to be holding a vibe to her clit. They won't do much for constriction, but that's not the point with those.

Also, just something that seems to have been missed, are you talking and doing poo poo besides rubbing her sore? Like, there's more to sex than the clit and glans. Not saying you've been ignoring this aspect, but it has been completely absent from your description of things.

Fake edit: You said you're "shaped wrong". I take this to mean your dick is broken has a different bend. Have you tried orientations that let your bend shine?

Old Binsby
Jun 27, 2014

BirdOfPlay posted:

Lastly, vibrating cock rings can be fun and remove the need for someone to be holding a vibe to her clit. They won't do much for constriction, but that's not the point with those.

Also, just something that seems to have been missed, are you talking and doing poo poo besides rubbing her sore? Like, there's more to sex than the clit and glans. Not saying you've been ignoring this aspect, but it has been completely absent from your description of things.

Fake edit: You said you're "shaped wrong". I take this to mean your dick is broken has a different bend. Have you tried orientations that let your bend shine?

Yeah I was thinking of the vibrating kind not the constricting kind per se. And yes I meant my dick's not perfectly straight, but getting that tilt to work for her every single time isn't something we managed as of yet. I'm not sure whether it actually has a lot to do with this whole thing anyway since like I said, we talked about this and she also remembers that it felt great when we just had just met and things weren't slowly getting more complicated.. You're right to point out that sex isn't only rubbing genitals but since that's where the problems started, that's what I've been discussing. We're definitely keeping each other engaged in other ways, rest assured.

Hyperlynx posted:

The vast majority of women cannot come from just penetration, and it feels "nice" but that's about it. You and your ladyfriend are perfectly normal.

Solution: play with her clit at the same time as you penetrate her.

Trying to get a lady off purely from penetration is equivalent to trying to get a man off just by sucking his balls. On the other hand, the clitoris and the penis both develop from the same structure during gestation - that's where all the sensation is. In other words: porn lies.

I guess you're right that we're 'normal' but lately penetrative sex has been turning into something that we/she avoided a bit because she got less and less out of it and she doesn't enjoy it very much. I'd like to return to the previous state where we both liked it a little more. It's not this huge thing but I don't want it to become that. So thanks for the suggestions. I think using an actual decent lube and not expecting too much might be half the solution already.

Krillchin
May 10, 2016
I have the opposite problem with my girlfriend enjoying PIV a lot and coming from it virtually every time, but me being completely unable to orgasm while having penetrative sex. I already wrote in this thread a few times this year and I'm checking in for an update. We're in the 13th month of our relationship and it's going super strong, we have literally no issues besides this small thing that worries us every now and then, but has become something we're quite used to. We have sex fairly frequently (~3-4 times a week) and it's always a lot of fun and enjoyable but I'm completely unable to reach orgasm through any kind of PIV stimulation and in the year we're together I managed to come four or five times after long and exhausting handjobs. I stopped masturbating for a few months without any kind of change so we developed the habit that I jack myself off after our sessions, which is satisfying enough for now. Sometimes the issue makes me feel quite broken though and having PIV orgasms is definitely something I want to experience someday. I take no medication, I'm in good shape physically and I don't suffer from too much stress usually, so the problem is definitely psychological. We tried doing sensate focus exercises, which didn't really help either and the mental blockade is as strong as ever. :(

UrbanLabyrinth
Jan 28, 2009

When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence


College Slice

Have you talked to a doctor to see if there's anything else happening that might affect this?

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Krillchin posted:

I have the opposite problem with my girlfriend enjoying PIV a lot and coming from it virtually every time, but me being completely unable to orgasm while having penetrative sex. I already wrote in this thread a few times this year and I'm checking in for an update. We're in the 13th month of our relationship and it's going super strong, we have literally no issues besides this small thing that worries us every now and then, but has become something we're quite used to. We have sex fairly frequently (~3-4 times a week) and it's always a lot of fun and enjoyable but I'm completely unable to reach orgasm through any kind of PIV stimulation and in the year we're together I managed to come four or five times after long and exhausting handjobs. I stopped masturbating for a few months without any kind of change so we developed the habit that I jack myself off after our sessions, which is satisfying enough for now. Sometimes the issue makes me feel quite broken though and having PIV orgasms is definitely something I want to experience someday. I take no medication, I'm in good shape physically and I don't suffer from too much stress usually, so the problem is definitely psychological. We tried doing sensate focus exercises, which didn't really help either and the mental blockade is as strong as ever. :(

When you're doing PIV, are you thinking about your inability to cum? How much do you think about pleasing your partner while having sex? Have you tried indulging in the Devil's Tobacco before/during sex? And how often do you watch porn?

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Have you tried swapping girlfriends with Binsby?

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Krillchin posted:

I have the opposite problem with my girlfriend enjoying PIV a lot and coming from it virtually every time, but me being completely unable to orgasm while having penetrative sex. I already wrote in this thread a few times this year and I'm checking in for an update. We're in the 13th month of our relationship and it's going super strong, we have literally no issues besides this small thing that worries us every now and then, but has become something we're quite used to. We have sex fairly frequently (~3-4 times a week) and it's always a lot of fun and enjoyable but I'm completely unable to reach orgasm through any kind of PIV stimulation and in the year we're together I managed to come four or five times after long and exhausting handjobs. I stopped masturbating for a few months without any kind of change so we developed the habit that I jack myself off after our sessions, which is satisfying enough for now. Sometimes the issue makes me feel quite broken though and having PIV orgasms is definitely something I want to experience someday. I take no medication, I'm in good shape physically and I don't suffer from too much stress usually, so the problem is definitely psychological. We tried doing sensate focus exercises, which didn't really help either and the mental blockade is as strong as ever. :(

Does your partner get incredibly wet? Personally, if a woman gets crazy "dripping wet," it can be so slippery that I kinda stop feeling anything. So I'll pull out for a moment, wipe off some of the excess with my hand*, and then I can get off because I can actually feel some vagina texture and not just slipslipslipslipslip.


*looking into her eyes and licking hand optional.

Old Binsby
Jun 27, 2014

KillHour posted:

Have you tried swapping girlfriends with Binsby?

tbh this is what popped into my head as well :v:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

hoobajoo posted:

When you're doing PIV, are you thinking about your inability to cum? How much do you think about pleasing your partner while having sex? Have you tried indulging in the Devil's Tobacco before/during sex? And how often do you watch porn?

Sparking up Satan's spinach during sex might not be the best idea. Most women take it amiss when you start using their navel as an ashtray.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Old Binsby posted:

(I swear I'm not humblebragging)

Double reverse humblebrag spotted

Condimentalist
Jun 13, 2007
Question for anybody that uses fleshlights - any thoughts or recommdations about them? I am curious to try one, but don't even know what to expect or if it would be worth the money.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


The upfront cost and cleaning compared to just washing your hands?

Just sit on your hands until you can give yourself a stranger.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

LingcodKilla posted:

Just sit on your hands until you can give yourself a stranger.

Or if you're feeling really adventurous, try the fractal stranger (have someone else sit on your hands until they're asleep).

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
At that point you should just have sex with them instead.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Condimentalist posted:

Question for anybody that uses fleshlights - any thoughts or recommdations about them? I am curious to try one, but don't even know what to expect or if it would be worth the money.

I've got one and it's a fun way to switch up the routine. cleaning it isn't a problem but I do find warming it up to be somewhat tedious. Basically it's not a spontaneous thing, it requires a small amount of planning.

I have the Flight and about the only problem I can say I have with it is that the bottom cap has this slope so you can't just stand the thing up.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

DandyLion posted:

Or if you're feeling really adventurous, try the fractal stranger (have someone else sit on your hands until they're asleep).

That's like suggesting someone sits on your face long enough for it to go numb so you can give yourself a blowjob.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Condimentalist posted:

Question for anybody that uses fleshlights - any thoughts or recommdations about them? I am curious to try one, but don't even know what to expect or if it would be worth the money.

They're good, they feel better than doing it with your hand and are fun to work into foreplay. They are a bit of a hassle to clean and maintain, and they do need a decent amount of lube, but I'd say they're worth it, if not something you'll use all the time.

I didn't get the Fleshlight for full disclosure, I had a Tenga, which is I guess like the Lexus of fake vaginas, engineered by Japan's leading dick scientists. It felt better than the generic sleeve kind I had before, so obviously money gets you some amount of quality, but I have no idea where the Flight falls. My instinct is it's probably good but overpriced because of brand recognition, like most things that have a lot of brand recognition compared to their competitors.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jedit posted:

That's like suggesting someone sits on your face long enough for it to go numb so you can give yourself a blowjob.

Don't kinkshame.

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


Condimentalist posted:

Question for anybody that uses fleshlights - any thoughts or recommdations about them? I am curious to try one, but don't even know what to expect or if it would be worth the money.

I have a Quickshot (the open-ended one) and it's cool. I don't really use it by myself often but it's a nice sensation for something different now and then - it might be one to try if you're just curious and don't want to go all in on the idea of a sleeve, and it's not as much of a pain to clean up after. It's less about the feeling of suction/tightness that a closed sleeve might have, than it is enjoyable for the textures that it has on the inside. I really like it when my partner uses it on me either just to replace a handjob or when giving head at the same time, though...

strangemusic fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 21, 2016

Dudeabides
Jul 26, 2009

"You better not buy me that goddamn tourist av"

How normal is it to need to touch yourself to get an erection rather than just being able to get one when you're turned on?

It seems weird to ask but my fiancée and I have been having issues lately because she thinks I'm not aroused by her because I'm not getting hard immediately when we're getting frisky with each other. We've been together for three years and our sex life has been decent, but I've always needed more manual stimulation to get it up and it makes her think I'm coaxing myself to have sex.

I'm always turned on mentally and physically I can get anxious (yay) but when it hasn't been translating to an immediate boner for her without me putting my hand or hers on it she gets turned off. I get erections even when we're fooling around but when it comes to go time I want to give it a couple strokes (I guess I like to know it's still there).

Is this a bigger issue or are we just taking this out of proportion?

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Dudeabides posted:

How normal is it to need to touch yourself to get an erection rather than just being able to get one when you're turned on?

It seems weird to ask but my fiancée and I have been having issues lately because she thinks I'm not aroused by her because I'm not getting hard immediately when we're getting frisky with each other. We've been together for three years and our sex life has been decent, but I've always needed more manual stimulation to get it up and it makes her think I'm coaxing myself to have sex.

I'm always turned on mentally and physically I can get anxious (yay) but when it hasn't been translating to an immediate boner for her without me putting my hand or hers on it she gets turned off. I get erections even when we're fooling around but when it comes to go time I want to give it a couple strokes (I guess I like to know it's still there).

Is this a bigger issue or are we just taking this out of proportion?

That sounds like a quirk, but within the range for normal men. It's not something you should feel bad about as long as it doesn't impede your ability to actually have sex, and I wouldn't call wanting to wank for 10 seconds impeding anything.

Quick questions though, does it HAVE to be a hand, or just any contact? And how long do you have to be stimulated? If it has to be a hand, or takes 5 minutes before anything happens, then that is kinda weird.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I think people put far too much emphasis on erections as an indicator of arousal. It leads to misconceptions like that a man can't be raped by a woman because "if he's hard, it means he wants it."

Sounds like nervousness is a big factor here since you mention that you're getting hard during foreplay and before it's "go-time".

It's normal, so try not to think about it. And maybe explain to your fiancee that it's just the way you are. I have the complete opposite problem, getting hard from just the slightest bit of physical contact. Even a look or the slightest bit of flirting does it.
That's led to very frequent blue balls and embarassing situations, so at least you don't have to worry about that. You're completely fine, nobody's normal.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If my other half was likely to call off sex because she saw me touching my dick during foreplay I would probably have trouble getting it up too.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

OwlFancier posted:

If my other half was likely to call off sex because she saw me touching my dick during foreplay I would probably have trouble getting it up too.

My other half really doesn't have a problem with this as long as we don't include the left one.

Dudeabides
Jul 26, 2009

"You better not buy me that goddamn tourist av"

hoobajoo posted:


Quick questions though, does it HAVE to be a hand, or just any contact? And how long do you have to be stimulated? If it has to be a hand, or takes 5 minutes before anything happens, then that is kinda weird.

Thankfully it doesn't have to be and it doesn't take long at all. Just more of a way I've been used to things.


Grevling posted:

I think people put far too much emphasis on erections as an indicator of arousal. It leads to misconceptions like that a man can't be raped by a woman because "if he's hard, it means he wants it."

Sounds like nervousness is a big factor here since you mention that you're getting hard during foreplay and before it's "go-time".

It's normal, so try not to think about it. And maybe explain to your fiancee that it's just the way you are. I have the complete opposite problem, getting hard from just the slightest bit of physical contact. Even a look or the slightest bit of flirting does it.
That's led to very frequent blue balls and embarassing situations, so at least you don't have to worry about that. You're completely fine, nobody's normal.

Yeah I chalk it up to nerves a lot. Anxiety is the gift that keeps on giving. I've explained it to her that way before, but she's also sensitive about her appearance (which is knockout by the way) but it translates over to her thinking I'm not into her because she's not keeping care of herself physically. That's a whole other deal but we've sorted through it before. I was more concerned about if it was something more than mental.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Dudeabides posted:

Yeah I chalk it up to nerves a lot. Anxiety is the gift that keeps on giving. I've explained it to her that way before, but she's also sensitive about her appearance (which is knockout by the way) but it translates over to her thinking I'm not into her because she's not keeping care of herself physically. That's a whole other deal but we've sorted through it before. I was more concerned about if it was something more than mental.

It's absolutely nothing to worry about, I wouldn't even call it 'mental', it's just a quirk of your physiology.

If we're sharing stories about boners being read into too much, I have a good one. One time, my then gf and I had sex, she went to the bathroom, and when she came back she got furious, saying I faked an orgasm to get out of sex and I found her unattractive, all solely based on me being still hard after 90 seconds. I tried to tell her that it just stays hard for a bit on its own sometimes, but she wouldn't believe me and told me I was making that up, and didn't let it go the entire night. Relationship didn't last long after that, unsurprisingly.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I feel like this should be covered in sex ed and the heading would be "HE PROBABLY LIKED IT. IF HE SAYS HE LIKED IT, HE LIKED IT."

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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DandyLion posted:

My other half really doesn't have a problem with this as long as we don't include the left one.

You have a left dick? :stonk:

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Jan 23, 2007

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