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Johnny Joestar posted:one can only hope that maybe they take some pointers from the bot improvements I think it's a good time to be optimistic. The game has never been stronger. 1.5 is the best patch to date with zero stability issues.
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Dec 9, 2016 18:22
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yeah, that's true. i just want the update to get here already
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Dec 9, 2016 18:23
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1.5 basically looks like a reminder that for as weird and wonky as Fatshark can be, they're actually really good at the basics of what makes their game fun.
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Dec 9, 2016 18:25
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Is the red elf sword in the quests today any good in the beta
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Dec 9, 2016 18:42
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Is the red elf sword in the quests today any good in the beta The elf sword is good in the beta and the red elf sword has one good trait and two meh ones, when you can get an orange with Regrowth Normal, Killing Blow, and Devastating Blow that'll do way better. Killing Blow really helps the elf single sword, though.
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Dec 9, 2016 18:44
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Other stats question, I upgraded those blue drakefires to orange since I'd been running the reds so long and this is my first chance to surpass them. The stat selections seem really limited on it. Are there just only a few sets of skills that can be put on em? I ended up with Targeteer, the 10% less heat generation, and Berserker as the best I could get.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Other stats question, I upgraded those blue drakefires to orange since I'd been running the reds so long and this is my first chance to surpass them. The stat selections seem really limited on it. Are there just only a few sets of skills that can be put on em? I ended up with Targeteer, the 10% less heat generation, and Berserker as the best I could get. According to Verminguide, drakefires have 11 possible perks. Targeteer is very nice on them. I'd go for some combination of Targeteer, Bloodlust, and then either I'd accept any of master crafted, stability, channeling rune, or hail of doom.
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Mzbundifund posted:According to Verminguide, drakefires have 11 possible perks. Targeteer is very nice on them. Yeah, Drakefires have kind of poo poo awful accuracy without targeter. If you can pull bloodlust/Targeter, basically anything you get as a third trait would qualify as 'good enough' to keep it. Something to keep in mind is that even with Targeter, Drakefires have a quick damage dropoff in mid range. You can kill clanners with one shot if they are within about 6-7 paces of you, but outside of that it takes 2 body shots to drop em on nightmare.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:17
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For all that people complain about Fatshark I very much enjoy their rat-murder simulator and I hope they're cooking up even more rat-killin' DLC after the dorf stuff 
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Dec 9, 2016 19:34
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Night10194 posted:1.5 basically looks like a reminder that for as weird and wonky as Fatshark can be, they're actually really good at the basics of what makes their game fun. There's a reason I kept playing this game consistently through the post-drachenfels drought when they fell silent and onbashira and mike were basically the only other people in goonintide for several months. It is an incredibly fun video game made by people with apparently no ability to manage the technical complexity of the project, which means the content to they add is great, it just rarely comes without bugs and instability and takes way longer to come out than predicted. Seriously, when the game came out there was no shrine of solace so if you rolled an orange and the traits sucked or you rolled minimum %s on every trait you just had to deal with it. And the loot tables were worse so good weapons were rarer. And you could not fuse without putting 5 items in the forge, which meant "safe" fusing was a very slow process. And the bulletin board wasn't in the game at all, so guaranteed huge amounts of ore and trinkets and hats and orange weapons were not a thing at all. You were at the mercy of the loot roll, end of story. Release was night and day compared where we are now. The drachenfels levels are all great (however much I may complain about the dungeons), the new level previewed in the beta was great, and the majority of their balance changes were spot on. The beta was also massively optimized due to the improvements they made for consoles, and was more stable than the main branch rather than less, which is a new thing for fatshark. So even if they continued to make exactly as many bugs as they fixed and continued to release everything late, the gameplay would still be the same solid foundation that's kept me playing since release, and they are only making that part better. But for the first time they are legitimately fixing more problems with the game than they are creating on the technical side of things, so I think there's good reason to be encouraged.
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Also, they're just so excited about their game and it's really endearing. They really, really wanted to make ratfight and took what I was sure would be some silly shovelware game and made one of my favorite action games ever instead.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:41
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The OP hasn't been updated since the game came out so I'll make a new thread around when the DLC comes out if there are no objections. Any external resources I should link to besides verminguide? Also that cute rat is going in the first post and I will not compromise on this.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:09
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All rats are cute.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:23
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Digirat posted:The OP hasn't been updated since the game came out so I'll make a new thread around when the DLC comes out if there are no objections. Any external resources I should link to besides verminguide? When the overhaul hits on the 15th, I'm going to prepare a proper series of video showcases on how to use each weapon and how to handle the situations in the game with them, with Coolguy. I was considering making a thread for it too. It'll take a couple days work. It's high time that there be some clean, proper information out there and it'll be the crux of a definitive, comprehensive OP.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:33
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i will be the living embodiment of advice to become the most efficient rat killer in the Empire 
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Night10194 posted:All rats are cute. Especially when they're on fire.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:44
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*Kerillian voice* Cute rat pics. CUTE! RAT! PICS!
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nvm didn't read well enough
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Dec 9, 2016 22:09
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This is it, I'm never throwing a better bomb Incidentally if I made the next thread I was not planning on making the OP either a dictionary-length advertisement for the game or a dictionary-length gameFAQs guide for it, I was just going to link to the useful resources/videos after the summary/DLC info/mandatory rat gifs and verminmemes, so someone else make if it that's not approved of
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i deffo highly approve of the great taste less filling style of OP for many games but grab the second and possibly third post as well for the encyclopedia rattanica because let's be real, this is a game that DOES need a lot of instructional material if you want to feel competent at it with fewer than 200 hours played.
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My idea isn't to be verbose, it's just going to include those ideas and up-to-date information on the game as a whole and be as approachable as can be.
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Dec 10, 2016 09:28
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The actual reason why you should always block while joining a game 
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i'm curious as to why fatshark doesn't just make it so that players automatically block when they start reviving someone it's not like they're going to be reviving in a situation where they don't want to block
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Dec 10, 2016 09:57
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They did internally, but then the WIP shield rat started appearing everywhere and oh no how did it even get out of the game shut it down pull the plug
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I only learned you could block revive a few nights ago to be honest, but the night after that I managed to wait out and then save 3 dead pubbies on NM Wheat and Chaff, with a roger chasing me the whole time. It took a whole fuckin lotta juking, fence hopping and just quick moves as the littlest hero. 
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 I feel like I have found one of the few trait combinations that redeem the repeater (in the current meta).
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Lunethex posted:When the overhaul hits on the 15th, I'm going to prepare a proper series of video showcases on how to use each weapon and how to handle the situations in the game with them, with Coolguy. I was considering making a thread for it too. It'll take a couple days work. It's high time that there be some clean, proper information out there and it'll be the crux of a definitive, comprehensive OP. I really wish something like this was around when I was first starting, because the selling point of "warhammer l4d" is really really inaccurate in the finer details of both games (and I love both games to pieces, to be clear). It's more like Mount and Blade but way faster, you begin as an endgame MnB character, and every level you're outnumbered 1000 to 1. Even just one visual resource to show the "death waltz" would have saved a lot of thrown games on my part. For instance: everything in the Rats Chats Quick Tips youtubes? Blew. My. loving. Mind. Willie Tomg fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Dec 10, 2016 |
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Got a handy link for those videos?
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Willie Tomg posted:I really wish something like this was around when I was first starting, because the selling point of "warhammer l4d" is really really inaccurate in the finer details of both games (and I love both games to pieces, to be clear). It's more like Mount and Blade but way faster, you begin as an endgame MnB character, and every level you're outnumbered 1000 to 1. Even just one visual resource to show the "death waltz" would have saved a lot of thrown games on my part. Man, that explains a lot about why this game felt familiar right away to me. The fights really ARE similar to M&B's ground fights.
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The endgame M&B character is the guy who just overhead swings a claymore forever right? 
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Man I loved just taking out fools left and right in Mount and blade. I would siege castles and just pick off people on the wall with my bow until my pack of idiots cleared a path for me to pile in with my pole arm. Then I would lose the castle right away because I wouldn't stand every management element in that game. Similarly my favorite thing in this game is wading into a horde, but I won't slow down to block and push with mixed reaults.
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Hexenritter posted:Got a handy link for those videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-TJsyxtr8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=966pJfk2JzI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3wDp6V0cog As a new player, I'd say a solid 2/3rds of these had me slapping my forehead in amazement that more of these weren't billboarded somewhere very prominent ingame.
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Willie Tomg posted:[snip] Thanks for these. I hope to be a not poo poo player and clamber out of double digit levels soon.
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A number of those have been fixed so don't count on the state change object duplication thing to work, and others. All the mechanics info is still accurate though, such as how each swing does different damage to different numbers of rats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtPxba8nBxg The spreadsheet itself is going to be pretty outdated as soon as the patch hits though. Hopefully the data is still available and the owner can update it.
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Wizard's cock, dual daggers with backstabbery, regrowth, and whatever that trait is that boosts your attack speed is downright game-changing. Couple that with a nice movement speed trinket and a speed potion and suddenly your elven-Kenshiro brutalizing your way through Stormvermin packs. Also when are we getting new enemies already? I'd love to see something along the lines of rat swarms as an alternate to slaves, warpthrowers added to the mix of special skaven, stormvermin variants, etc...
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Willie Tomg posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-TJsyxtr8k That FOV's giving me a headache.
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So what weapons should I be hoarding for post-patch life? Blue rocks are my bottleneck right now so I'm trying to upgrade useful things I don't already have in orange.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:So what weapons should I be hoarding for post-patch life? Blue rocks are my bottleneck right now so I'm trying to upgrade useful things I don't already have in orange. Absolutely everything will be good and fun post patch mostly
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