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Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ACRE & EQUAT posted:

no plot holes; stood up to scrutiny; I rooted for the protagonist
better than a lot of episodes

it sure ain't Rascals or Magnificent Ferengi, but like those it's one of those episodes that, judging by the pitch alone, should have been waaay worse

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VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



Powered Descent posted:

You know, this just made me realize that among Star Trek movies (I'm just dealing with the original cast here), even the BAD ones still have some universally-known good bit. TMP had V'Ger (the idea, if not any particular scene), and Star Trek V had the "What does God need with a starship" bit.

imagine being a 60's trekkie and dropping acid to watch tmp in 78

that's how i measure that one

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

bloodychill posted:

FC makes sense in that it is very simple. The borg send an explosive ball into the past to stop humans from ever becoming a threat and the enterprise follows and fights the ball and then somehow goes back to their own time.

what threat did the federation pose to them in the first place? why were they even attacking earth??

Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

what threat did the federation pose to them in the first place? why were they even attacking earth??

Janeway

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

they made a grim dark reboot, it was called Battlestar Galactica and prospered from the combination of america losing its goddamn mind over 9/11 and america losing its goddamn mind over Lost

And culminated in the creators losing their goddamn minds over the writer's strike.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
battlestar galactica is the one where it turns out half the cast is an evil robot right

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
And they have a plan

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

bloodychill posted:

And they have a plan

There are Twelve Models, except we kinda hosed it up so five are main characters that we picked by tossing darts at photos, and one doesn't exist because we killed it off prior to the show starting for some weird reason.

Really, there are Six Models.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
Who'd win in a fight, Warship Voyager or Endgame Voyager?

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Who is the most misunderstood star trek race? I think it might be Cardassians. I mean, say what you want about the show-trial based justice system and the questionable actions of the state but they're an intensely loyal people dedicated to the advancement and elevation of their people. I can respect that.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


The Sheliak Corporate were the most patient, considerate of planetary landlords in the face of Picard's pissy protestations and rules-lawyering.

They just wanted their rightful access to their radiation infested death planet and were incredibly polite not to sanitize the human infestation from orbit.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
God, this sounds fanficky as hell, but after Nemesis came and went, I put together an idea for an alternate take on the concept: Federation/Starfleet being sort of overwhelmed with post-Dominion War overconfidence that we get hints that they're starting to get abusive, lazy, assumptive, etc. in regards to their own certain status as the greatest power in the cosmos. It's not the old guard, though. It's the young officers and crewmen. The ones who saw very little or no action during the Dominion War.

Picard is troubled by this when he sees a group of Ensigns harassing the Cardassians, Bajorans and even Klingons at DS9 and means to put a stop to it.

However, he is more troubled when he finds out the possible source of the newfound attitude from cadets and Ensigns: A secret club at Starfleet Academy founded and lead by Miles O'Brien.

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



a new drink appears at morn's: the irish shuttlebomb

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Volcott posted:

Who'd win in a fight, Warship Voyager or Endgame Voyager?

Defiant.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


What kind of futuristic assay office uses verbal notation like "statue, 30 odd centimeters" and "assorted gems"?

Oh wait a Bajoran one where a digital camera is beyond anyone's ability to operate and a peephole wtih doorbell is re-classified as an "MK12 Retinal Scanner"

Assay Officer: "Prized valuables, highly rare"
Assayee: "Uh that's just a plate of half eaten food"
Assay Officer: "Precisely."

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

https://youtu.be/E-aelI7fAF4?t=162

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Before and After;

Kes is traveling backwards through time, she married Tom, and their daughter married Harry Kim, who had a son together. Once more Harry Kim gets laid in a defunct timeline.

I was genuinely surprised to see an actual premature reference to The Year of Hell though. Given it's ST:Voyager, I'm guessing at the time it was written they were trawling for plot and went "gently caress it, that sounds good".

ACRE & EQUAT
Aug 28, 2004

FUNERAL BREADS
WAR BREAD

Ralp posted:

it sure ain't Rascals or Magnificent Ferengi, but like those it's one of those episodes that, judging by the pitch alone, should have been waaay worse

no I meant the story of your avatar

The General
Mar 4, 2007


basic hitler posted:

Who is the most misunderstood star trek race? I think it might be Cardassians. I mean, say what you want about the show-trial based justice system and the questionable actions of the state but they're an intensely loyal people dedicated to the advancement and elevation of their people. I can respect that.

The Pakleds. They just look for things that make them go.

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ACRE & EQUAT posted:

no I meant the story of your avatar

oh lol :doh:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Fine then, USS Sao Paulo.

Joke answer USS Saratoga.

FabioClone
Oct 3, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I've never seen a whole episode of Voyager while sober. I don't believe it's even possible.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

FabioClone posted:

I've never seen a whole episode of Voyager while sober. I don't believe it's even possible.

It's not.

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

they made a grim dark reboot, it was called Battlestar Galactica and prospered from the combination of america losing its goddamn mind over 9/11 and america losing its goddamn mind over Lost

Roslin and Adama might cheerfully beat me up and airlock me, but Janeway scares the poo poo out of me because she has all these chances to let her crew go but instead uses morality as an excuse for batshit tyranny.

Janeway is by far the scariest Captain imo.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Parents visiting. Mom is describing an episode of DS9 she saw last night and how good it was.

I slowly realize she's describing Meridian :catstare:

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Parents visiting. Mom is describing an episode of DS9 she saw last night and how good it was.

I slowly realize she's describing Meridian :catstare:

probably reminds her a good wine+xanax kind of day

edit: this joke makes no sense because I was thinking of "allamaraine" / Move Along Home for some reason

CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Dec 10, 2016

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





There is a subset of women Star Trek fans who really like those sort of romantic episodes. That episode does have sexy Quark though, so it isn't a total loss.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




sweet geek swag posted:

There is a subset of women Star Trek fans who really like those sort of romantic episodes. That episode does have sexy Quark though, so it isn't a total loss.

She probably likes the TNG episode where the candle ghost fucks Beverly so good she almost quits Starfleet too.

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

Infidel Castro posted:

She probably likes the TNG episode where the candle ghost fucks Beverly so good she almost quits Starfleet too.

they should've done a follow up episode that's just wesley listening to beverly's personal log describing the events

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Infidel Castro posted:

She probably likes the TNG episode where the candle ghost fucks Beverly so good she almost quits Starfleet too.

That's not a thi-

quote:

Dr. Crusher attends her grandmother's funeral, and spends time in her grandmother's haunted house, romanced by her grandmother's non-corporeal lover.

Oh my god :catstare:

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Wesley going through everyone's personal logs and learning how the entire ship, even visitors, hate him and then going crazy and needing to be mind wiped and genetically altered to join Kurn in the House of Insignificant klingons would be a good episode.

The b-plot can be about the ship's real live Bolian barber losing customers to an increasingly popular holodeck barber which leads to the banding together of all non-essential non-starfleet personnel aboard into staging an uprising and picard commands o'brien to teleport all the useable water out of their bodies and into the ship's reserves and then transporting the desiccated husks into one of those blue barrels and jettisoning that into space. Picard then, in a kindly moment, lets O'Brien know he's not to fret about what just happened and that this mass ennui is a fairly regular occurrence on Federation ships and protocol demands the rabble be killed under the Epsilon directive but not to worry because they'll pick up a fresh compliment of expendables at the next start port.

Or maybe that is the A-plot because an episode that focuses on Wesley is usually insufferable.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007


It's just as good as it sounds

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset
Was watching a MST3K episode on youtube and caught Mike's impression of Janeway. It was...unnervingly good.

Also I'm pretty sure that episode of Beverly making o-faces to a candle is the worst thing I've ever seen. God, I hope I'm still alive for the inevitable trainwreck reboot of next gen.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

I was genuinely surprised to see an actual premature reference to The Year of Hell though. Given it's ST:Voyager, I'm guessing at the time it was written they were trawling for plot and went "gently caress it, that sounds good".

The Year of Hell was originally going to be a season long arc that depicted what Voyager should have been in the first place. But then someone remembered that Voyager is loving garbage and any real continuity or interesting writing isn't allowed, so they made it a two parter with a literal reset button at the end.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

shadow puppet of a posted:

Wesley going through everyone's personal logs and learning how the entire ship, even visitors, hate him and then going crazy and needing to be mind wiped and genetically altered to join Kurn in the House of Insignificant klingons would be a good episode.

The b-plot can be about the ship's real live Bolian barber losing customers to an increasingly popular holodeck barber which leads to the banding together of all non-essential non-starfleet personnel aboard into staging an uprising and picard commands o'brien to teleport all the useable water out of their bodies and into the ship's reserves and then transporting the desiccated husks into one of those blue barrels and jettisoning that into space. Picard then, in a kindly moment, lets O'Brien know he's not to fret about what just happened and that this mass ennui is a fairly regular occurrence on Federation ships and protocol demands the rabble be killed under the Epsilon directive but not to worry because they'll pick up a fresh compliment of expendables at the next start port.

Or maybe that is the A-plot because an episode that focuses on Wesley is usually insufferable.

Automatic Slim fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Aug 22, 2021

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
In The Cards. You better watch out for those soulless minions of orthodoxy! I also love Nog's takedown of Federation economics.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

That's not a thi-


Oh my god :catstare:

Oh it gets better. They pretty much got away with Crusher orgasming onscreen.

In a primetime 90's TV slot.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

shadow puppet of a posted:

picard commands o'brien to teleport all the useable water out of their bodies and into the ship's reserves and then transporting the desiccated husks into one of those blue barrels and jettisoning that into space.

If those barrels get caught in a time-warp and go back to the past, I think this is where 2-4-5 Trioxin came from.

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Automatic Slim posted:

Why couldn't they have desiccated Wesley too?

Picard has been using Wesley as a sex toy because his mom won't bone him. Wesley accepts this because of future sexual mores.

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Tears In A Vial
Jan 13, 2008

sweet geek swag posted:

Picard has been using Wesley as a sex toy because his mom won't bone him. Wesley accepts this because of future sexual mores.

The Boy?

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