The BSS Q&A Thread: It's Time For Arkhamaniacs

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Perry Normal: Jul 23, 2010; Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.

WickedHate posted:

I think Hugo had an official exit-iirc during Knightfall it shows him just sort of walking off out of the wrecked cave-and then he came back for a page in Hush to be like "Hush fixed my deformity so I betrayed you to him, but we're cool right? His name is [gets shot]"

I think that was No Man's Land, not Knightfall. He ran off to go fix the broken city and never came back. In Knightfall, I thought he just hid himself and Ace in a corner of the cave while Jean-Paul was there.

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# ? May 26, 2024 22:27

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WickedHate posted:

I think Hugo had an official exit-iirc during Knightfall it shows him just sort of walking off out of the wrecked cave-and then he came back for a page in Hush to be like "Hush fixed my deformity so I betrayed you to him, but we're cool right? His name is [gets shot]"

He showed up a bit in the Azrael comic, too, working for JP before he (JP) kicked it.

# ? Dec 7, 2016 20:56

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

Perry Normal posted:

I think that was No Man's Land, not Knightfall. He ran off to go fix the broken city and never came back. In Knightfall, I thought he just hid himself and Ace in a corner of the cave while Jean-Paul was there.

Oh yeah, I meant to say No Man's Land.

# ? Dec 7, 2016 21:06

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

What's the Nu52/Rebirth JP Valley's deal, by the way? He just showed up as a nice nurse at Leslie's clinic in Detective, but then busted out a sick fire sword when the bad guys tried to ambush Spoiler and Bluebird.

# ? Dec 7, 2016 23:50

purple death ray: Jul 28, 2007; me omw 2 steal ur girl

Gaz-L posted:

What's the Nu52/Rebirth JP Valley's deal, by the way? He just showed up as a nice nurse at Leslie's clinic in Detective, but then busted out a sick fire sword when the bad guys tried to ambush Spoiler and Bluebird.

He was heavily involved in Batman and Robin Eternal. He seems to have come to Gotham to be a part of the Batfamily and will be joining the team in Detective Comics soon.

# ? Dec 8, 2016 00:04

Teenage Fansub: Jan 28, 2006

Read Batman and Robin Eternal for his story.
Basically he was an antagonist, defending his weird tech religion/cult and was saved by the bat kids and started fighting with them.

e: What he said.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Dec 8, 2016

# ? Dec 8, 2016 00:07

Lurdiak: Feb 26, 2006; I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.

Lobok posted:

I promise to never chastise someone for Norman Osborne again.

I loved when the Marvel General thread was called "Nourmane Osbourne's Dark Avengers" or something.

# ? Dec 8, 2016 00:08

RandallODim: Dec 30, 2010; Another 1? Aww man...

Ferrule posted:

I remember back when Microchip's son got killed. Didn't Micro himself die several years later? I don't really read Punisher so I have no idea if Micro is even around (or if that counts in this case).

Also, what about Arnim Zola's kids that came back with Cap? I read those comics and don't even remember what happened. Jet(?) was bad then good then maybe bad again? And the little boy grew up and came back to this dimension and then...?

Pretty sure Micro turned on Frank and then Frank killed him, as Frank does. Not sure if he's come back or not since but most recent Punisher runs just make their own supporting casts anyway.

# ? Dec 8, 2016 00:26

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

RandallODim posted:

Pretty sure Micro turned on Frank and then Frank killed him, as Frank does. Not sure if he's come back or not since but most recent Punisher runs just make their own supporting casts anyway.

The Hood brought Micro back to life during Rick Remender's run on the Punisher. Frank killed him again.

# ? Dec 8, 2016 00:30

TwoPair: Mar 28, 2010; Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta; Grimey Drawer

Teenage Fansub posted:

Read Batman and Robin Eternal

No don't!

# ? Dec 8, 2016 01:15

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Our team just won the annual Nordic comic quiz and I knew a lot about Dr. Strange villains I feel so good about myself right now welp that's all god bless and god bless the United States of America!

# ? Dec 11, 2016 01:47

Wheat Loaf: Feb 13, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Question about Rogue from X-Men. I remember reading X-Treme X-Men, which had her removed from the team about two-thirds of the way through when she and Gambit both lose their mutant powers after being run through with a sword by Vargas (remember Vargas and how Claremont tried to tie him in with Cassandra Nova?) after which they settle down in California to have a normal life. A while later (circa 2006, I guess) Sunfire loses both his legs in battle with Lady Deathstrike, and asks Rogue to permanently absorb his powers so she can avenge him, and for a while Rogue had Sunfire's powers. Then I was out of the loop for a while, and the next X-Men I read was Claremont's third run on Uncanny just before House of M, where Rogue is back to her normal power-set (absorption plus super strength and flight). How did she get from A to B? When and where did she lose Sunfire's powers and get her usual ones back?

# ? Dec 11, 2016 15:48

Selachian: Oct 9, 2012

Wheat Loaf posted:

Question about Rogue from X-Men. I remember reading X-Treme X-Men, which had her removed from the team about two-thirds of the way through when she and Gambit both lose their mutant powers after being run through with a sword by Vargas (remember Vargas and how Claremont tried to tie him in with Cassandra Nova?) after which they settle down in California to have a normal life. A while later (circa 2006, I guess) Sunfire loses both his legs in battle with Lady Deathstrike, and asks Rogue to permanently absorb his powers so she can avenge him, and for a while Rogue had Sunfire's powers. Then I was out of the loop for a while, and the next X-Men I read was Claremont's third run on Uncanny just before House of M, where Rogue is back to her normal power-set (absorption plus super strength and flight). How did she get from A to B? When and where did she lose Sunfire's powers and get her usual ones back?

Didn't she lose Sunfire's powers (as well as her memories) when she got wiped by touching baby Hope Summers during the "Messiah Complex" arc?

# ? Dec 12, 2016 00:12

Senior Woodchuck: Aug 29, 2006; When you're lost out there and you're all alone, a light is waiting to carry you home

Selachian posted:

Didn't she lose Sunfire's powers (as well as her memories) when she got wiped by touching baby Hope Summers during the "Messiah Complex" arc?

That or during the whole supervirus thing that happened right before that.

Mike Carey basically reset her to "just power-stealing" during his run on X-Men & X-Men: Legacy. And then she, like, absorbed Wonder Man during Remender's Uncanny Avengers, so she's got ionic powers now, too.

# ? Dec 12, 2016 01:09

Alien Rope Burn: Dec 5, 2004; _{I wanna be a saikyo HERO!}

If I'm remembering all this correctly:

Rogue gets Ms. Marvel's powers.
Also at one point she absorbs a telepathic Skrull and starts being able to manifest any power she's absorbed previously, but doesn't have much control over it. The main side effect of this is her wearing red shades.
Rogue has her powers boosted by Sage to call on any power she's used before to beat a forgettable villain, burning her powers out. Sage offers to restore her powers but Rogue blows her off. She leaves the team.
Rogue gets her powers back and rejoins the team. This has never been explained.
Rogue gets Sunfire's powers to avenge him. (His own powers would later be restored by Apocalypse.)
Rogue's powers are amplified by a virus known as Strain 88 to instantly absorb / kill people she touches.
Rogue is exposed to baby Hope, who cures her of Strain 88 and wipes all of the memories she's absorbed (along with Sunfire's powers).
Due to her largely blank slate in terms of absorbed memories, Professor X is able to finally treat Rogue's lack of control issues psychically. Rogue then has control of her powers after that.
To stop a Celestial, Rogue absorbs the powers of dozens of superheroes. Scarlet Witch is able to return those powers, but Wonder Man remains stuck within her, giving her his powers, but the process drives her mad and... she loses her control over her powers again.
One of the High Evolutionary's goons wipes Wonder Man's mind from her, seemingly leaving her with his powers alone.

There might be other stuff, but that's everything I know of.

Alien Rope Burn fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Dec 12, 2016

# ? Dec 12, 2016 01:28

Lurdiak: Feb 26, 2006; I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.

Forget all that noise, when are we going to get the payoff for Wonder Man and his Revengers being really mad about the Avengers not realizing Scarlet Witch broke reality?

# ? Dec 12, 2016 02:03

Alien Rope Burn: Dec 5, 2004; _{I wanna be a saikyo HERO!}

Very few Bendis comics have anything that could be called a "payoff".

# ? Dec 12, 2016 02:10

Roth: Jul 9, 2016

He really is the Marvel-version of Geoff Johns

# ? Dec 12, 2016 02:11

Teenage Fansub: Jan 28, 2006

Lurdiak posted:

Forget all that noise, when are we going to get the payoff for Wonder Man and his Revengers being really mad about the Avengers not realizing Scarlet Witch broke reality?

House of M II

# ? Dec 12, 2016 03:11

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Lurdiak posted:

Forget all that noise, when are we going to get the payoff for Wonder Man and his Revengers being really mad about the Avengers not realizing Scarlet Witch broke reality?

I have a soft spot for Wonder Man. I wish they hadn't Visioned him.

# ? Dec 12, 2016 17:03

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Halloween Jack posted:

I have a soft spot for Wonder Man. I wish they hadn't Visioned him.

They disassembled him, bleached him, and removed his emotions? :ohdear:

# ? Dec 12, 2016 17:08

Sinners Sandwich: Jan 4, 2012; Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

I'm so pissed they just grabbed names out of a hat for the Revengers team and it came up Ethan Edwards, the Superman expy that was a skrull sleeper who was raised by a nice chirstian family and went off to faith heal people in Africa because hes also Jesus

A perfect canidate for him to join up with Wonderman, a guy who he had never met and go after the Avengers for Skrullvenge for Secret Invasion.

# ? Dec 12, 2016 17:14

Pat Mustard: Mar 9, 2013

What's an "expy"?

# ? Dec 12, 2016 19:44

Sinners Sandwich: Jan 4, 2012; Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Well thats *google definition* Tvtropes lingo for Ex-OH PLEASE DON'T GO

Tvtropes lingo for exported character, kind of just like a satirical spin on a certain character like Superman or when Robert Kirkman or Rob Liefield draw like Captain Picard in the story but he's a pink alien but you know that is supposed to be Picard

Edit: I also used the terminology wrong. I guess satirical take on Superman in Marvel Knights Spider-man would be better. Sorry for spreading confusion

Sinners Sandwich fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Dec 12, 2016

# ? Dec 12, 2016 19:52

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Pat Mustard posted:

What's an "expy"?

I think it's an analogue, like how Hyperion is a Superman-analogue, or Moon Knight is a Batman-analogue.

# ? Dec 12, 2016 19:52

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

prefect posted:

They disassembled him, bleached him, and removed his emotions?

I mean writers see him as this semi-disposable B or C league character, so when they don't know what to do with him or want to have a character die, Vision always ends up torn apart, or reduced to :mitt:

, or reduced to a part of the Avengers' home theatre system.

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Dec 12, 2016

# ? Dec 12, 2016 20:21

Yvonmukluk: Oct 10, 2012; Everything is Sinister

Wheat Loaf posted:

If they ever make a full-on nineties Spider-nostalgia comic, Jimmy Six will be one of the main supporting characters in it.

It'd be a team book. The main characters would be the Slingers except they're all clones of Peter Parker, they all believe they're the original, and every month resort to increasingly convoluted schemes to conceal it from the others.

Mary Jane would quit smoking at the start of every instalment then take it up again at the end; she'd be impregnated by every clone of Peter at one point or another but every child is revealed to be a highly-trained actress who was only pretending to be miscarried. Once an issue, one of the team proclaims that SHOOOOCKEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR can't escape him and he'll chase him to the ends of the Earth, even if Shocker isn't actually in the comic.

The main villains would be the Brotherhood of Scriers, who are all clones of Norman Osborn. Recurring enemies would include Cardiac, Chase and the Tri-Sentinel (who robs banks on a regular basis), and every time the bad guys have them cornered, they're saved by the timely intervention of Solo smashing through a convenient nearby window yelling, "WHILE I LIVE, TERROR DIES!" and firing a machine gun in each hand.

You joke, for a lot of these long-running comics you could tell stories for years just building on lesser-known background characters and plot threads. Like the clone X-Men who appeared in one issue of New Mutants and then went off to have space adventures. They're still out there, dammit!

Alien Rope Burn posted:

If I'm remembering all this correctly:

Rogue gets Ms. Marvel's powers.

Also at one point she absorbs a telepathic Skrull and starts being able to manifest any power she's absorbed previously, but doesn't have much control over it. The main side effect of this is her wearing red shades.

Rogue has her powers boosted by Sage to call on any power she's used before to beat a forgettable villain, burning her powers out. Sage offers to restore her powers but Rogue blows her off. She leaves the team.

Rogue gets her powers back and rejoins the team. This has never been explained.

Rogue gets Sunfire's powers to avenge him. (His own powers would later be restored by Apocalypse.)

Rogue's powers are amplified by a virus known as Strain 88 to instantly absorb / kill people she touches.

Rogue is exposed to baby Hope, who cures her of Strain 88 and wipes all of the memories she's absorbed (along with Sunfire's powers).

Due to her largely blank slate in terms of absorbed memories, Professor X is able to finally treat Rogue's lack of control issues psychically. Rogue then has control of her powers after that.

To stop a Celestial, Rogue absorbs the powers of dozens of superheroes. Scarlet Witch is able to return those powers, but Wonder Man remains stuck within her, giving her his powers, but the process drives her mad and... she loses her control over her powers again.

One of the High Evolutionary's goons wipes Wonder Man's mind from her, seemingly leaving her with his powers alone.

There might be other stuff, but that's everything I know of.

You know, I'm amazed they never did 'What If Rogue never absorbed Ms. Marvel's powers?' since that was such a pivotal moment for both characters' history.

# ? Dec 12, 2016 21:14

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

I'll spoil it for you - Rogue's attempt to depower Marvel is thwarted, so instead she targets another known heavy-lifter superhero like Captain America. From there events unfold pretty much identically except Captain America now serves as head of SHIELD earlier than usual due to lack of powers, and Rogue eventually takes his place due to the heroic memories gained. Nothing changes for Marvel except that she still has her original powers when she gets empowered by the white hole, making her return to status quo less of a handwave.

# ? Dec 12, 2016 21:40

Pat Mustard: Mar 9, 2013

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Well thats *google definition* Tvtropes lingo for Ex-OH PLEASE DON'T GO

Tvtropes lingo for exported character, kind of just like a satirical spin on a certain character like Superman or when Robert Kirkman or Rob Liefield draw like Captain Picard in the story but he's a pink alien but you know that is supposed to be Picard

Edit: I also used the terminology wrong. I guess satirical take on Superman in Marvel Knights Spider-man would be better. Sorry for spreading confusion

Wouldn't that be importing a character? Seems a bit of an unnecessary term either way.

prefect posted:

I think it's an analogue, like how Hyperion is a Superman-analogue, or Moon Knight is a Batman-analogue.

Cheers.

# ? Dec 12, 2016 22:27

Scaramouche: Mar 26, 2001; SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Ghostlight posted:

I'll spoil it for you - Rogue's attempt to depower Marvel is thwarted, so instead she targets another known heavy-lifter superhero like Captain America. From there events unfold pretty much identically except Captain America now serves as head of SHIELD earlier than usual due to lack of powers, and Rogue eventually takes his place due to the heroic memories gained. Nothing changes for Marvel except that she still has her original powers when she gets empowered by the white hole, making her return to status quo less of a handwave.

... And spider man dies

# ? Dec 12, 2016 23:28

EvilJay: Jul 25, 2005

Scaramouche posted:

... And spider man dies

Goddamnit; I was JUST typing that...

# ? Dec 13, 2016 01:37

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

Scaramouche posted:

... And spider man dies

I'm pretty sure that's just taken as a given, you don't even need to say it.

# ? Dec 13, 2016 01:46

Yvonmukluk: Oct 10, 2012; Everything is Sinister

Must admit, I was surprised Spider-Man survived Age of X, at least as far as we saw.

That little story was so good.

# ? Dec 13, 2016 09:00

Lily Catts: Oct 17, 2012; Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)

Has Superman ever had one of his rogues reform and work with him, a la Clayface?

# ? Dec 14, 2016 15:26

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Schneider Heim posted:

Has Superman ever had one of his rogues reform and work with him, a la Clayface?

Didn't the guy who killed him get snuffed while fighting some bad guy alongside Supes?

# ? Dec 14, 2016 15:27

Sinners Sandwich: Jan 4, 2012; Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Does Kid Braniac in Legion count?

# ? Dec 14, 2016 15:38

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Schneider Heim posted:

Has Superman ever had one of his rogues reform and work with him, a la Clayface?

The Eradicator.

Or all the alternate realities where Brainiac is Superman's universal remote; do they count?

# ? Dec 14, 2016 15:39

purple death ray: Jul 28, 2007; me omw 2 steal ur girl

Lex Luthor was in the Goddamn justice league

# ? Dec 14, 2016 15:40

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

purple death ray posted:

Lex Luthor was in the Goddamn justice league

Seriously?

# ? Dec 14, 2016 16:23

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# ? May 26, 2024 22:27

purple death ray: Jul 28, 2007; me omw 2 steal ur girl

He's still running around in an iron man suit with a big S on his chest saving people and poo poo. Super dad doesn't trust him though.

# ? Dec 14, 2016 16:27

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