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MizPiz posted:But what if politics is the escapism!? Then I never want to be forced to remember whatever hell this is a preferable escape from.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Then I never want to be forced to remember whatever hell this is a preferable escape from.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:WOC sounds like a racist slur ironically enough. i love how the non racist people somehow made the term colored people pc by saying it like yoda
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seriously I can't be the only one who thinks "X of color" sounds way more condescending than just saying they're Black or Chinese or Lakota or Mexican because, you know, all minority groups are completely interchangeable and there's no need to be specific when discussing them like the only worse term is loving "latinx" because it's inflicting a completely English language-centric problem (an erroneously-perceived lack of gender neutral pronouns) on a population group that primarily speaks Spanish, a language with intrinsic grammatical genders, it's loving linguistic imperialism Vincent Van Goatse has issued a correction as of 05:18 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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like seriously the made up gender neutral pronouns annoy the gently caress out of me because English already has a gender neutral singular pronoun and it's they "they" can be a loving singular pronoun, loving Shakespeare and Dickens and Chaucer used it that way so you drat well can too
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:seriously I can't be the only one who thinks "X of color" sounds way more condescending than just saying they're Black or Chinese or Lakota or Mexican Wikipedia has a section on the history of the term "peopke of color" and the amswer may surprise you! 
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the tech worker living in a San Jose exurb on an H1B and a black family gentrified out of Harlem have a strong feeling of solidarity with each other, this is undeniable and not at all reductionist and condescending
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being a woman and not being in the monolithic racial power group create excellent conditions for wokenessAtrocious Joe posted:Teen Vogue is cool 
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being nonwhite makes you inherently better to speaking truth to power, this isn't a completely hosed up viewpoint at allALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:seriously I can't be the only one who thinks "X of color" sounds way more condescending than just saying they're Black or Chinese or Lakota or Mexican
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this is an awesome avenue for the 'laugh at people who think buying cereal makes them woke revolutionaries' thread to go down!
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devtesla posted:It sounds like the only person who got fired for this was the least responsible for whatever the gently caress happened. Welcome to capitalism.
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The reason folks don't want to use nonwhite is that the term implies that white is the default. "People of Color" is fine, lol.
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E: tired me wants to ask, but morning me will regret it
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A man of colours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh3g9ctwEpw
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:A man of colours Beer commercials were weird in the 70s.
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planes love darth vader?? Tatum Girlparts posted:this is an awesome avenue for the 'laugh at people who think buying cereal makes them woke revolutionaries' thread to go down! idk when I was teaching sociology I'd usually just say "blacks" "whites" "latinos" etc. I strongly dislike the term poc because it implies that there are two groups "White" and "Nonwhite" with no intragroup conflict. it's just a really eurocentric way of looking at things. sorry for making GBS threads up this thred!!
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hahaah gently caress these people. gently caress them all. i usually like the post too. sucks. you do? I'm sorry.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Beer commercials were weird in the 70s. Everything was weird in the 70s.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:seriously I can't be the only one who thinks "X of color" sounds way more condescending than just saying they're Black or Chinese or Lakota or Mexican because alot of these jackoffs are probably/are well meaning paternalistic racist. they view minorities as puppies and poo poo like that and arnt responsible for any bad actions that POC individual does. reminds me of this crazy lady. http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/04/23/amanda-kijera-liberal-human-rights-activist-raped-in-haiti/ yeah poo poo site but the original is deleted.
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devtesla posted:The reason folks don't want to use nonwhite is that the term implies that white is the default. "People of Color" is fine, lol. Unless white people are also People of Colour then it still establishes whiteness as the norm by creating special linguistic rules to describe everyone who isn't white. It's an affectation to show how savvy you are (ie. virtue signalling).
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:like the only worse term is loving "latinx" because it's inflicting a completely English language-centric problem (an erroneously-perceived lack of gender neutral pronouns) on a population group that primarily speaks Spanish, a language with intrinsic grammatical genders, it's loving linguistic imperialism yeah baby i'm allergic to latinx i can't use condoms
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the trump tutelage posted:It's an affectation to show how savvy you are (ie. virtue signalling). This is true, but it's a bizarre leap from that to "this word is super racist".
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devtesla posted:This is true, but it's a bizarre leap from that to "this word is super racist". yeah i know the site is racist gently caress sticks. i am pissed that i couldnt find the original blog post. sorry about that.
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devtesla posted:The reason folks don't want to use nonwhite is that the term implies that white is the default. "People of Color" is fine, lol. there is literally no difference and it still implies white is the default
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I mean, when the origins of the modern use of 'person of color' are guys like Frantz Fanon trying to use it as a more general version of MLK's 'citizens of color' it's kinda weird to argue that it's actually a racist term used by white people to patronize minorities. Latinx is a bit more murky but its biggest problem is it's specialized language that was made general by well meaning allies. It started off in queer communities, mainly used by latino/latina members of them. It was never really that much 'virtue signaling' but hey who am I to argue the actual history of those terms with the dude who posts an article about a woman being raped and not abandoning her mission in Haiti because of it as an example of white people seeing minorities as dumb puppies?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I mean, when the origins of the modern use of 'person of color' are guys like Frantz Fanon trying to use it as a more general version of MLK's 'citizens of color' it's kinda weird to argue that it's actually a racist term used by white people to patronize minorities. I don't think "people of color" is racist, I think it sounds really condescending and does nothing to actually address the problem its supposed to solve.
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Heaven Spacey posted:planes love darth vader?? "Peace. Love. Linux." IBM ran a "street art" campaign around downtown Chicago around '02 to promote their migration to open source software platforms. Really pissed the city off. As per the "people of color" debate. Yea, you should be asking individuals what they prefer to be called if it's appropriate toward the conversation, but it's deffo the phrase I hear to describe non-white, as in groups that haven't been absorbed into the cultural "whiteness," that has the most affinity and solidarity for the broader race based issues. If anyone talking has a personal problem with personally being labeled a person of color, say so! on topic: 
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I don't think "people of color" is racist, I think it sounds really condescending and does nothing to actually address the problem its supposed to solve. I don't think the white bro anti racist collective coined the term.
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so has the DUMPSTARWARS bullshit blown into anything yet, because i am sure that will be the new battleground between the nazis and the WOKES.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so has the DUMPSTARWARS bullshit blown into anything yet, because i am sure that will be the new battleground between the nazis and the WOKES. Much less than the poo poo around Force Awakens had it seems.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Much less than the poo poo around Force Awakens had it seems. thats what i have seeing. some nazis are bullshiting it around and a bunch of WOKE-offs are trying to make it into something bigger. but nothing really. https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/808384921215504385 he isnt even fully wrong but like someone said ealier, the karl rove bullshit the left pushes now with "everything is political and it must fit MY politics and no one else" is stupid, sure its true, everything has politics themes messages but people dont want to go to movies/media to be always propagandized at. idk its dumb. when people say they dont want politics(least the smart ones) in their entertainment, they dont want it jammed down their throats so some clown can feel good. star wars never does that so that pisses people like him and others off. and the alt right gets pissed because minorities and women in lead roles. Dapper_Swindler has issued a correction as of 23:39 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:thats what i have seeing. some nazis are bullshiting it around and a bunch of WOKE-offs are trying to make it into something bigger. but nothing really. pretty much.It's a loss for both sides. There's not a ton of grandstanding to do about a movie that everyone's gonna see anyway. You can't really show off your progressive cred by buying the same ticket a poo poo ton of other people who don't give a poo poo are and the types of people who think someone saying 'yea it's a cool story about a diverse group taking down an oppressive empire' is offensive are exactly the kinds of guys no one wants to see a movie with anyway so their boycott is just farting on the internet. e: yea, the movie seems exactly as political as every other star wars movie, which is to say it'll probably have the message of 'oppressive empires are bad, fighting them is a good thing to do' and not explore that much deeper. If you wanna go deep in the nerd weeds the side stuff like that Rebels show and the comics have done some neat one offs exploring poo poo like 'dude I'm a Stormtrooper who got drafted when my planet got taken over I'm not wild about this either but I can't do much' and 'the empire's biggest lasting damage was the complete destruction of native cultures and blowing up a death star doesn't undo years of oppression'. The main movies have always been escapism over deep political statements and that's fine. sexpig by night has issued a correction as of 23:41 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:pretty much.It's a loss for both sides. There's not a ton of grandstanding to do about a movie that everyone's gonna see anyway. You can't really show off your progressive cred by buying the same ticket a poo poo ton of other people who don't give a poo poo are and the types of people who think someone saying 'yea it's a cool story about a diverse group taking down an oppressive empire' is offensive are exactly the kinds of guys no one wants to see a movie with anyway so their boycott is just farting on the internet. nerds(even lefty ones like me and my friends) arnt seeing it for some rainbow brigade progressive badge bullshit, we are seeing it so we can watch darth vader slaughter a bunch of fuckers including hopefully some main character. no one in this movie will be around for the sequels and yeah no poo poo it will be the same, but the WOKEoff brigade is looking for "deep" poo poo and i am sure they will get "triggered" by something, probably because its too violent or some poo poo. Dapper_Swindler has issued a correction as of 23:46 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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