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bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq8G81oOHhY

For the longest time this was the Cubs' worst moment. That guy probably had to fear for his life.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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Railing Kill posted:

It's their Bill Buckner moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18caPNisP2U

Context: The Red Sox blow a lead to let the Mets into extra innings in game 6 of the 1986 World Series. It is an elimination game for the Mets. A routine ground ball goes toward Bill Buckner at first base, and he lets it scoot between his legs, allowing the Mets to win.


The thing that a lot of people forget about this game is that the Red Sox got the first two outs of the 9th inning without any trouble at all. The Mets were literally down to their last out, and long before the Buckner play too. Its really not fair to Buckner because the pitchers that blew the lead in the first place never get brought up.

Calvin Schiraldi and Bob Stanley are their names. Remember them and next time Buckner comes up you too can go off on a rant about how he got screwed over.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
I'm the lady at the end jumping on the bandwagon.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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bobjr posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq8G81oOHhY

For the longest time this was the Cubs' worst moment. That guy probably had to fear for his life.

He had to move out of Chicago. I wish I was kidding.

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

Basebf555 posted:

The thing that a lot of people forget about this game is that the Red Sox got the first two outs of the 9th inning without any trouble at all. The Mets were literally down to their last out, and long before the Buckner play too. Its really not fair to Buckner because the pitchers that blew the lead in the first place never get brought up.

Calvin Schiraldi and Bob Stanley are their names. Remember them and next time Buckner comes up you too can go off on a rant about how he got screwed over.

:respek:

Bill Buckner was actually a decent, reliable 1B. It was bad pitching that blew the 9th inning of game 6, and it took a total team effort to blow all of game 7. Luckily, a lot of those demons got exorcized in 2004, and I would hope the same is true for Steve Bartman in Chicago.

bobjr posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq8G81oOHhY

For the longest time this was the Cubs' worst moment. That guy probably had to fear for his life.

Bartman did indeed get death threats in 2003. But I think he's way worse than Buckner. Dude has headphones on to listen to the radio call from the stands. He knows baseball. So why the gently caress is he reaching out to catch a playable ball for his own team? (Although, to be fair, he's not the only dumbass right nearby who's trying to catch that foul ball. Idiots, all of them.)

I'm just bitter because I really wanted to see a Cubs/Red Sox World Series that year, and both league championships were lost in dramatic fashion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-35ghwAw90

The Yankees won it in the 9th with a walk off home run, because of course they did. It was a different time.

gently caress Grady Little.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Solice Kirsk posted:

He had to move out of Chicago. I wish I was kidding.

No he didn't

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

He still lives in chicago but he did have to change phone numbers for him and his family to avoid harassment.

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Aug 6, 2013


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The Bartman situation is FAR worse than Buckner.

Buckner was a player and even though he gets a wildly disproportionate share of the blame he still knew going in that becoming a fan pariah is a risk you sign up for.

Bartman was a fan among a half dozen in that section reaching out on a play that should have been called as an out in the first place for fan interference.

What I'm saying is that Cubs fans are just the worst.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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Solice Kirsk posted:

He had to move out of Chicago. I wish I was kidding.

ESPN did a documentary on that, and its heartbreaking. He seems like a similar type of person as myself. Leading a fairly normal, if boring, life and not really seeking the spotlight in any way. He went to the game with a few friends(who immediately pretended they didn't even know him as soon as the poo poo hit the fan), and he probably just wanted to have fun, check out the game and go home.

The security guard who escorted him out was interviewed in the documentary, and she talks about how she could see in his eyes that he knew exactly what was happening. His life was going be very hosed for a long time, and all because he went to a baseball game and sat in the wrong seat. As I see it its double schadenfreude, one for the team, and another for the city of Chicago for acting like total assholes.

Edit: Moises Alou came off like a dick as well because I really don't think he was coming down with that ball regardless. And its his reaction and direct finger pointing that contributed to the broadcast singling Bartman out.

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AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Bartman has been offered thousands and thousands of dollars for interviews and appearances, including 6 figures for a super bowl ad. He's turned it all down.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

CLEVELAND, YEAH!
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-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?
So I guess the Schadenfreude is on me having to scroll past all these football posts right?

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

Basebf555 posted:

ESPN did a documentary on that, and its heartbreaking. He seems like a similar type of person as myself. Leading a fairly normal, if boring, life and not really seeking the spotlight in any way. He went to the game with a few friends(who immediately pretended they didn't even know him as soon as the poo poo hit the fan), and he probably just wanted to have fun, check out the game and go home.

The security guard who escorted him out was interviewed in the documentary, and she talks about how she could see in his eyes that he knew exactly what was happening. His life was going be very hosed for a long time, and all because he went to a baseball game and sat in the wrong seat. As I see it its double schadenfreude, one for the team, and another for the city of Chicago for acting like total assholes.

Edit: Moises Alou came off like a dick as well because I really don't think he was coming down with that ball regardless. And its his reaction and direct finger pointing that contributed to the broadcast singling Bartman out.

I agree with pretty much all of this, but he was still a dumbass for reaching out like that, regardless of whether Moises Alou was going to catch it. You see it all the time in games: if the home team's fielder is going up to catch a fly ball, you get the gently caress out of the way. (If it's an away player, then to hell with him.) Bartman did a single, momentarily dumb thing which unfortunately cost him dearly. It would be like someone becoming the pariah of an entire city for littering once.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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Railing Kill posted:

I agree with pretty much all of this, but he was still a dumbass for reaching out like that, regardless of whether Moises Alou was going to catch it. You see it all the time in games: if the home team's fielder is going up to catch a fly ball, you get the gently caress out of the way. (If it's an away player, then to hell with him.) Bartman did a single, momentarily dumb thing which unfortunately cost him dearly. It would be like someone becoming the pariah of an entire city for littering once.

Its such an understandable mistake though, because he's not even reaching over in to the field of play. He's probably used to sitting in crappier seats, where if the ball comes to you and you reach your hand out to catch it you aren't going to interfere with anything. Its not like he stood up and bent over the wall onto the field, which people do all the time.

I also blame the broadcast team for being short sighted. They instantly zoomed right in on Bartman and started ranting about how much of a dumb rear end in a top hat he was, completely ignoring anyone else around who was also reaching their arm out. If they'd stopped and thought about it for a second they'd have realized what they were doing and the implications of it.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Railing Kill posted:

God bless The Factory of Sadness.

To me, from the relative safety of Not Being a Browns Fan, their losing is different than the Cubs (up until recently) or the Red Sox (same) or even Cleveland's other long-suffering team, the Indians. The Browns are and were never good. Like, at all. The Indians and Cubs are/were heartbreaking because they would get so close and then blow it. Same with the Red Sox in 1968, 1975, 1986, and 2003. In order to be Lovable Losers, you first need to be lovable, to be known for something besides losing and to have an interesting history. The Browns just loving lose. They're the consolation prize of a city that had its team stolen from them in the night, and they have done literally nothing but lose since their inception. It's the only thing interesting about them.

:allears:

The Browns actually used to be really good, but that was back in the 50s and 60s. They won the NFL championship in 50, 54, 55 and 64, but these all pre-date the Super Bowl, so they get forgotten sometimes. Unless you're just talking about the new Browns, then yea, all they do is lose.

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.
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tl;dr Prudential says "hey, we did a bunch of business with Wells Fargo, maybe we should double check all that". They appoint a team of investigators to review all their Well Fargo generated policies, at least three of those investigators come back saying "this poo poo looks really fishy". Prudential pseudo-fires those three employees and goes EVERYTHING'S FINE SO FAR!

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

Bird in a Blender posted:

The Browns actually used to be really good, but that was back in the 50s and 60s. They won the NFL championship in 50, 54, 55 and 64, but these all pre-date the Super Bowl, so they get forgotten sometimes. Unless you're just talking about the new Browns, then yea, all they do is lose.

I was just talking about the post-1999 Browns. The old Browns are from The Long Long Ago, in the Other Time.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:

So do all the players waiting to be drafted to the NFL mumble "not cleveland not cleveland not cleveland" until their name is called?

Not really, because they constantly have the first pick or at least a very high pick. Going number one overall in the draft gives you a LOT of name recognition. But yea after the first round you don't want to be picked by the Browns.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
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Pook Good Mook posted:

What I'm saying is that Cubs fans are just the worst.

Cubs fans are garbage and I wish them another 100 year drought.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Basebf555 posted:

The security guard who escorted him out was interviewed in the documentary, and she talks about how she could see in his eyes that he knew exactly what was happening. His life was going be very hosed for a long time, and all because he went to a baseball game and sat in the wrong seat.

I love how everything comes around to blaming the victim - totally wasn't the fault of a bunch of loving rabid, obsessive fans with nothing better to do with their lives than harass someone that they think caused them grief. And not only that, to take it to such a personal level that they stalk and bother the guy at his home and his workplace to the point that he has to literally change his lifestyle to avoid them.

For that reason (and many others), gently caress the Cubs and their victim-blaming rear end in a top hat fans, and gently caress any sports team that doesn't do anything to curb their fans' lovely behavior. Cubs didn't lose because of that guy, they lost because their team has sucked poo poo for the better part of a century and they wanted a convenient scapegoat.

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Erwin
Feb 17, 2006

All sports fans are poo poo, all people who have strong opinions about particular teams are poo poo and lol if you think any one team's fans are worse than another. All sports are a drain on the economy burn it all down.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Six-Of-Hearts posted:

So do all the players waiting to be drafted to the NFL mumble "not cleveland not cleveland not cleveland" until their name is called?

That and the Detroit Lions, a franchise with an even worse record than the browns and has had even less success over the lifetime of the nfl. Yes I am a Lions fan.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Erwin posted:

All sports fans are poo poo, all people who have strong opinions about particular teams are poo poo and lol if you think any one team's fans are worse than another. All sports are a drain on the economy burn it all down.

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ElGroucho posted:

Chicagoans are garbage

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Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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Erwin posted:

All sports fans are poo poo, all people who have strong opinions about particular teams are poo poo and lol if you think any one team's fans are worse than another. All sports are a drain on the economy burn it all down.

Hey lets talk about sports for a few more pages just to rile this guy up.

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Dec 28, 2009

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Feb 9, 2006

Erwin posted:

All sports fans are poo poo, all people who have strong opinions about particular teams are poo poo and lol if you think any one team's fans are worse than another. All sports are a drain on the economy burn it all down.

And I'll take this call off the air.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
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Stex T posted:

They're the perennial snake-bit franchise; in the last few decades they've done nothing but lose and in often conspicuous and hilarious fashion.

This year has been exceptionally brutal; they have no wins off 13 losses and it's probably not going to get any better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6qrW1mdRmQ

Just skip around the video a lot and you'll find something Brownsy.

For instance, one year they had a touted running back, Trent Richardson. They figured óut he was all hype and actually could not play football. They managed to trade him for a much-valued first round pick, an utter swindle considering Trent Richardson never played another season after that.

A feel good browns moment,,. Until they used that pick to draft Johnny Manziel, one of the most legendary failures at being either a football player or a decent human being

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I don't really understand why some people claim to be "fans" of something that just makes them miserable whenever they talk about it, but then again that's the whole basis behind most of the threads in TV IV.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
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BJPaskoff posted:

I don't really understand why some people claim to be "fans" of something that just makes them miserable whenever they talk about it, but then again that's the whole basis behind most of the threads in TV IV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBDMMVctu8

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
I loving love it.

Ted Cruz actually helped Trump win New Hampshire, because he didn't want a "serious" candidate to win it:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-campaign-aides-harvard-20161202-story.html

quote:

Indeed, at one crucial point, a rival campaign aided Trump’s rise. After Trump’s loss in the Iowa caucuses, Jeff Roe, campaign manager for Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, called Lewandowski to warn him that polls they had done showed Trump’s support dropping in the coming New Hampshire primary because Trump was attacking other candidates too much.

Trump was not doing his own polls, Lewandowski said, so the insight provided key guidance which allowed them to recalibrate strategy.

A loss in New Hampshire might have crippled Trump. Instead, his victory there, followed by triumphs in Nevada and South Carolina, virtually assured him the nomination.

Roe, in an interview, confirmed Lewandowski’s account. At that point in the campaign, “we needed Trump” to defeat other candidates, he said, ruefully.

Amazing. Trump was losing support in a crucial primary battleground because he kept attacking Rubio, and the Cruz campaign *helped Trump win* because they thought Rubio was the more dangerous threat.

There's not a Nelson gif big enough.

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Mar 5, 2013

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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

This kills the bird.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
My favourite sportsfreude was from the 1999 Cricket World Cup, where in the second semi final, South African player Herschell Gibbs takes an easy catch, goes to throw it up in celebration and drops the ball, meaning the catch didn't count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK2qS550JXo

There's unfortunately no truth to the rumour that the batsman Steve Waugh went over to him afterwards and said "you just dropped the world cup".

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Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

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Phanatic posted:

This kills the bird and its entire family.

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Dec 30, 2000

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Feb 26, 2012

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Jun 4, 2011

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Feb 13, 2012

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Phanatic posted:

I loving love it.

Ted Cruz actually helped Trump win New Hampshire, because he didn't want a "serious" candidate to win it:

Cruz is an idiot but there’s no universe in which Trump wouldn’t win New Hampshire at that point, with or without Cruz’s help.

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