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What is YISUN?
Mother
A lie we tell ourselves to have a purpose
Bliss
A paradox with no solution
Father
A strong female protagonist
The weakest thing there is and the smallest crawling thing
Creator
Everything in this miserable and hellish existence
A solution with no paradoxes
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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Benson Cunningham posted:

Your ill thought out stance compels a diatribe, but I will limit myself.

Yeah you definitely aren't getting weirdly haughty and defensive about this

Look alive folks we've found the voice of reason.

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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Zaid had nicely tousled hair when he was being used as a coffee-table decoration. I hope when he's rescued the gang finds the poor boy some pants.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I'd smoke weed and play Xbox with Zaid.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Who What Now posted:

I'd smoke weed and play Xbox with Zaid.

What about... gamecube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Zaid is the raison d'etre, the McGuffing, the entire loving reason Allison is making this magical mystery journey with a demonic weeb with a dark mysterious past, a girl who is denying herself and a sacrifice that escaped her destiny. That is more than enough characterization and puts Zaid as a secondary character.

Who What Now posted:

I'd smoke weed and play Xbox with Zaid.

same but no weed as I am a square.

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
give zaid big fluffy ears and then we'll talk

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
actually give all the characters big fluffy ears if they don't have them already, it can only improve things

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
i am the voice of reason in this thread

Reene
Aug 26, 2005

:justpost:

Zaid's literal, actual meta-role in the story is to be the damsel-in-distress type character at this point. Any characterization you give him beyond that, and the bare-bones and extremely generic sketch of "kind of a creepy douchebag" is basically fanfiction.

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
in my fanfiction i'm married to metatron

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Reene posted:

Zaid's literal, actual meta-role in the story is to be the damsel-in-distress type character at this point. Any characterization you give him beyond that, and the bare-bones and extremely generic sketch of "kind of a creepy douchebag" is basically fanfiction.

Or to put in a way neckbeards will understand Zaid is to Princess Peach to Allison is to Mario,

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
there's one sexy scene where he puts all his feathers inside me and i orgasm so hard my head explodes

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Avshalom posted:

in my fanfiction i'm married to metatron


??????

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
what is that

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Avshalom posted:

in my fanfiction i'm married to metatron

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
Wow this is a stupid rear end argument with bad takes on both sides.

The angst over Zaid becoming a character isn't totally out of the blue, there's a long and awful history of interesting, capable female protagonists getting overshadowed by incompetent male sidekicks because writers are bad. So I understand why readers might be a bit meh on Zaid becoming a character. There's an equally long and bad history of female protagonists only getting motivation from love stories and rescuing their man, of having not ambition or drive for themselves.

The big "but" here is that Operant's being doing a solid job of keeping Allison central and has pretty clearly described him as a supporting character, so I think its fair to give Operant the benefit of the doubt here.

As far as whether he's a compelling character or not, frankly we know jack poo poo about him as a character at this point. He's potentially compelling purely by the spot he occupies in the story. His relationship to Allison and role as MacGuffin make actually dealing with him as his own person potentially interesting. That's about all we've got here.

On the flip side, I do have to say that if you're clamoring for him to have a central role in the story, you probably aren't reading the right comic, and there are already plenty of (read: way too loving many) mediocre-white-dude-in-fantasy-land stories out there to check out.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Avshalom posted:

what is that

metatronm, are you retarded???

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
oh poo poo i'm in for it now

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax

ElMaligno posted:

metatronm, are you retarded???
mate

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





I'm starting to think that the sanctioned action is to unbookmark this thread.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

I'm going to close it for a bit so people can chill out for a bit.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Phew I got worried for a second

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

New day, New hairstyle

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Interesting that the key is still glowing. Even if she thinks she's walking into her certain death, she's still choosing to do so, which I guess is enough for Royalty?

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I think it just glows in proportion to how wilful she's feeling at the time, basically.

Poltergrift
Feb 16, 2014



"When I grow up, I'm gonna be a proper swordsman. One with clothes."
I'm kind of getting an Utena vibe from the lilies in the background of the fifth panel.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Hahahahaha ewwwwwww

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

You monster.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

I'm upsetti

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014


it's beautiful

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

YAMERO

NachtSieger
Apr 10, 2013



:chanpop: :bravo:

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

I feel so left out

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
^^^^^^^
eta: :hfive:

idgi

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
That's Clevin, the incredibly milquetoast love interest from the bad webcomic strong female protagonist.

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

VanSandman posted:

That's Clevin, the incredibly milquetoast love interest from the bad webcomic strong female protagonist.

I thought Clevin was the dude in lamp's av

wait, are those two pics meant to be of the same character

e: also what sort of name is Clevin

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

ThaumPenguin posted:

I thought Clevin was the dude in lamp's av

wait, are those two pics meant to be of the same character

e: also what sort of name is Clevin

It's like the name "Kevin" but somehow even worse than that.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

VanSandman posted:

That's Clevin, the incredibly milquetoast love interest from the bad webcomic strong female protagonist.

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Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

ThaumPenguin posted:

I thought Clevin was the dude in lamp's av

wait, are those two pics meant to be of the same character

e: also what sort of name is Clevin

If you really want answers, go to the SFP thread with these questions.

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