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GenericOverusedName posted:My gunslinger dude got Volatile Mix...  But then I got Serial on two other guys 
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GenericOverusedName posted:My gunslinger dude got Volatile Mix... I've seen a video where someone stacked fire, poison, and acid on the berserker ruler. She just stood there and melted.
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Dec 8, 2016 16:15
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Nordick posted:I got Dense Smoke on one of my top assault guys 2 different playthroughs, 2 different gunners that rolled Conceal. I guess the game tried to compensate by giving my medical specialist Kill Zone though.
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Dec 8, 2016 16:16
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Just got this game at the beginning of the week on PS4. It's a lot of fun but holy poo poo @ the Viper King. The Ruler Reaction is brutal as hell.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:21
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So here's something I didn't know: Mutons can counter melee strikes. All the streams and videos I'd ever watched had never shown nor mentioned this, so I was rather surprised when one of them backhanded my blademaster into unconciousness. I thought he'd instakilled her for a second, and I was pissed.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:58
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:So here's something I didn't know: Mutons can counter melee strikes. People were very up in arms about that when it was mentioned pre-release, and so it stuck around in a lot of peoples' minds as a thing to simply not do. Hence why you'll see few instances.
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:So here's something I didn't know: Mutons can counter melee strikes. Yep that's a nasty surprise  Disorient and I think burning states cancels it.
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Dec 8, 2016 18:02
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Lima posted:Yep that's a nasty surprise It wasn't too bad though, as it was during a facility hit that I was crushing, but I definitely wasn't ready for that.
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Dec 8, 2016 18:08
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:So here's something I didn't know: Mutons can counter melee strikes. Yeah, you never see it because people know not to do it (everyone has likely done it once), I have actually been dumb enough to do it twice because I forgot about it.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:02
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I built the defense matrix and final verdict is: almost a total waste. Upgraded DM gives you 4 turrets at the end of your ramp in the UFO shoot-down missions which are really not that useful unless you're playing with some mod that generates a lot of pods.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:25
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A White Guy posted:I built the defense matrix and final verdict is: almost a total waste. Upgraded DM gives you 4 turrets at the end of your ramp in the UFO shoot-down missions which are really not that useful unless you're playing with some mod that generates a lot of pods. I've been trying to bait out a UFO just so I can use mine and then turn it into a power relay. First ufo flew right past me and nothing, now I'm actively ignoring that guerilla target just to make this a justified construction.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:32
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Eh, the defense matrix takes all of the ambiguity out of the Avenger Defense and turns it from a reasonably difficult mission into an almost total cakewalk. But yeah, it's extremely situational and you're arguably just as well served dumping those extra resources into better equipment, which can be taken into any mission. Including the Avenger Defense.
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Dec 8, 2016 19:47
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the d-matrix's primary value is the comedy and catharsis it brings to avenger defense mechanically it's impossible to justify
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Dec 8, 2016 20:19
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Deckit posted:Just got this game at the beginning of the week on PS4. It's a lot of fun but holy poo poo @ the Viper King. The Ruler Reaction is brutal as hell. Archon King was absolutely brutal in my game. The armors you get from the rulers are really good, though. Would love to see an Ethereal as a ruler (I love them as villains, I think they're great. Btw that Corrupt Avatar mod is pretty good but aesthetically the good old Ethereal is cooler).
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Dec 8, 2016 22:12
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There's a mod that lets you assign high ranking soldiers to the defense matrix to train rookies and thus rank up your lowest level dudes. I think it does like, everyone in your roster at the lowest rank you currently have though or something so I'm sure people will find this unbalanced. I liked it well enough.
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Dec 8, 2016 23:19
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The only reason I didn't use that one is that there's a lot of bug reports that it basically ruined their save because the building glitched out and couldn't be selected.
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Vib Rib posted:The only reason I didn't use that one is that there's a lot of bug reports that it basically ruined their save because the building glitched out and couldn't be selected. I played through with it just fine. Is it a recent development after the dlc came out?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbWEHyB2XKk
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Dec 9, 2016 16:22
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Yeah that was an interesting experiment I mean to try when my UFO hits.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:38
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http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SmallpoxJenkins/video/24412073 I will never have a string of overwatch fire this beautiful again.
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Dec 9, 2016 21:54
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I destroyed a haywired advent mec and saw a Search option appear - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8qVbQiNxMs A hidden feature that pops up if the loot bugs out perhaps? 
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Dec 11, 2016 20:27
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SmallpoxJenkins/video/24412073 If this were my game every shot would have missed and the Viper Ruler would have completely owned my best Sharpshooter
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Dec 11, 2016 20:36
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this hacking mechanic is some straight up bullshit
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Dec 13, 2016 01:20
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I finally picked up the DLC and now that the performance is good, I'm ready for my second run. This is the pile of mods I've got so far, missing anything essential besides voice packs?
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Dec 13, 2016 02:35
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Doesn't the Long War Toolbox render the 30 ability icons one a bit redundant?
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Dec 13, 2016 02:39
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BlazetheInferno posted:Doesn't the Long War Toolbox render the 30 ability icons one a bit redundant? Thanks for the heads up!
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Dec 13, 2016 02:47
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Mans posted:this hacking mechanic is some straight up bullshit There's a few things you can do to increase your tech score, specialists get better with levels, there's foundry projects and having the skulljack can also raise it and rarely you'll be able to get a hack bonus that raises it permanently for that soldier as well. End game hacking is pretty amazing but is a long road to get there.
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Dec 13, 2016 03:28
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:There's a few things you can do to increase your tech score, specialists get better with levels, there's foundry projects and having the skulljack can also raise it and rarely you'll be able to get a hack bonus that raises it permanently for that soldier as well. End game hacking is pretty amazing but is a long road to get there. The risk over the reward from pylons is waaaay too much in the early game. The hack score curve should be less steep so that specialist soldiers start with a higher score outright. Either that or tone down the risk. Or tone the reward down a little but remove the risk - you're still investing a soldier's turn into it after all. "Would you like a 50% chance to get run and gun for your soldier once, with a 50% chance to have to deal with turbocharged pods for the rest of the mission?"
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Dec 13, 2016 06:25
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As you say, hacking is bad mainly because of the consequences, the kind of consequences that just aren't worth risking your tactical footing for the remainder of the engagement unless you're at the point where you just don't need the boost. So really hacking just gets boiled down to a stat for possibly getting a nice end of mission reward, and that's it. I don't think you can really fix hacking without completely reworking all consequences and rewards and starting from scratch.
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I do like the fact that they actually implemented hacking without a stupid minigame. It's just a dice roll like the rest of the game's system. Could you imagine having to play Plumber's Nightmare or Connect the Dots or Stop the Needle on Green or some other insipid minigame every time you went for a hack, like in other games?
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Oh yeah, it's better than a loving hacking mini game, but the value of decision making (to hack or not) needs work. Imagine something that's more like a system, lots of things you could hack, Invisible Inc sort of although that was more about power budget, but I guess then you had daemons as your consequences too.
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Dec 13, 2016 08:08
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The drone's "initiate hacking" sirens are the best thing though
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I figured that was the advent/mec/sectopod's system going OH poo poo WHAT
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I'd actually like the Stop the Needle in the Green minigame where the percent chance is how big the green swath is
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I hacked a Sectopod in the final mission, it was all the way behind like 4 mutons and a bunch of vipers. It turned out pretty OK for me.
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Sandweed posted:I hacked a Sectopod in the final mission, it was all the way behind like 4 mutons and a bunch of vipers. It turned out pretty OK for me. 
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Close combat specialist on a panicked dude will trigger against friendlies. My now dead specialist just found this out the hard way. Also that stupid Viper King killed 3 of my best guys before I could take him down. I wish there was some warning rulers would be on a mission, but I guess that takes the fun out of it. If your squad is spread out when you reveal, you're gonna have a bad time. I have never lost so many soldiers this early.
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I'm a big fan of the Hack+ mod. Failed hacks give you +1 skill, hitting the middle hack gives you +2, and the right one gives you +3. Sure, it's OP by late game, but so are blaster bombs, shredstorm cannons, domination, grenadiers in general, etc.
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pig out bigtime posted:Close combat specialist on a panicked dude will trigger against friendlies. My now dead specialist just found this out the hard way. This is why I wait to activate the rulers until the end of the game. That gives me enough time to get the resources to deal with all but the last one with relative ease whilst also giving me the shadow chamber so I can see what is on the mission. I still remember in my first game it giving me a heads up about chryssalids and allowing me to set up a firing gallery which just annihilated them.
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Kwanzaa Quickie posted:I'm a big fan of the Hack+ mod. Failed hacks give you +1 skill, hitting the middle hack gives you +2, and the right one gives you +3. Sure, it's OP by late game, but so are blaster bombs, shredstorm cannons, domination, grenadiers in general, etc.
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