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Pikestaff posted:Speaking of Andraste, reminder that she was born the same year Dumat (the first Archdemon) was killed Huh? Archdemons have names?
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Rubberduke posted:Huh? Archdemons have names? They (or at least the pre-Blight dragons that become Archdemons) are the Tevinter gods, so yeah they've got names. Not sure how often people actually refer to them by their names,though, in fact the only one I can recall is Dumat. Also, I'm in full mode over Andraste potentially being born with the soul of an Archdemon à la Kieran, I never made that connection. It would certainly go a long ways towards explaining the weirdness surrounding her.
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Rubberduke posted:Huh? Archdemons have names? I have no idea how any identifies which Archdemon is which Old God though.
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Raygereio posted:I have no idea how any identifies which Archdemon is which Old God though. Grey Wardens somehow have a map of where all the Old Gods are (and were), and on that map the dragons are apparently helpfully marked with their names, too. When an Archdemon rises, the Wardens know which one it is, and name it, and no one else thinks to ask where they got the knowledge. Honestly, if I were a Chantry zealot in Thedas, I would have a lot of questions for the Grey Wardens and how much of apparent heretics they are.
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Where's the map, I don't recall it being mentioned (but then again the last time I played a Dragon Age game was probably close to a year and a half ago now)? If they have one why don't they just go set up defenses around (or just straight murderize) the Old Gods before they can get infected (yes I'm aware that's kind of what the Wardens were going for in Inquisition but why didn't they start centuries ago)? I think it's more than possible to identify an Archdemon just by sight. In the Fade level of Inquisition I remember a journal entry or memory or whatever from a Tevinter slave during the first Blight and he quickly identified the Archdemon as Dumat (though he assumed it was the god coming back to save them, not an Archdemon coming to kill them). What I take away from that is the Old Gods are visually distinctive enough, and the Blight doesn't corrupt them badly enough, that you can pretty easily match up Archdemon to God, especially since there's only 7 of them so there isn't much room for confusion.
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Crazycryodude posted:Where's the map, I don't recall it being mentioned (but then again the last time I played a Dragon Age game was probably close to a year and a half ago now)? If they have one why don't they just go set up defenses around (or just straight murderize) the Old Gods before they can get infected (yes I'm aware that's kind of what the Wardens were going for in Inquisition but why didn't they start centuries ago)? They show early on in this very game that they get a mindlink with the darkspawn or whatever and can hear the Archdemon - anything else is cover so that the public doesn't know what happens.
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Oh I know that, but unless the Archdemon is constantly thinking its Old God name over and over again (if it even knows that some worthless mortals from centuries ago had a special name for it) that doesn't explain how we can match up Old God to Archdemon.
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Crazycryodude posted:Oh I know that, but unless the Archdemon is constantly thinking its Old God name over and over again (if it even knows that some worthless mortals from centuries ago had a special name for it) that doesn't explain how we can match up Old God to Archdemon. The mind link has Caller ID.
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Lokapala posted:Grey Wardens somehow have a map of where all the Old Gods are (and were), and on that map the dragons are apparently helpfully marked with their names, too. When an Archdemon rises, the Wardens know which one it is, and name it, and no one else thinks to ask where they got the knowledge. Honestly, if I were a Chantry zealot in Thedas, I would have a lot of questions for the Grey Wardens and how much of apparent heretics they are. The Chantry looks the other way when it comes to Wardens because they can't figure out another way to deal with the Blight. The Joining is a type of blood magic too 
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Crazycryodude posted:Oh I know that, but unless the Archdemon is constantly thinking its Old God name over and over again (if it even knows that some worthless mortals from centuries ago had a special name for it) that doesn't explain how we can match up Old God to Archdemon. I had always assumed there was some kind of link that would demonstrate or at least imply which Old God it was. e.g. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Toth Toth here has fire breath or something. Apparently the Wardens do know where each Old God prison is, which is how they know which is which, but they're so deep that even they have no realistic hope of launching an attack on an Old God, and attempting it would probably just lead the Darkspawn right to it even sooner. Granted there are things that make this a less convincing argument than before, such as how insanely badass the HoF is, or the existence of the Architect, but nothing before the Dragon Age seems to have allowed it to be a realistic pursuit. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Dec 1, 2016 |
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Crazycryodude posted:Where's the map, I don't recall it being mentioned (but then again the last time I played a Dragon Age game was probably close to a year and a half ago now)? If they have one why don't they just go set up defenses around (or just straight murderize) the Old Gods before they can get infected (yes I'm aware that's kind of what the Wardens were going for in Inquisition but why didn't they start centuries ago)? We know that the Wardens have the locations of the Old Gods ( I don't think is mentioned whether the knowledge comes specifically in the form of an actual map) from the second DA book, The Calling. Well, I know it from the wiki, because Gaider is a better video game writer than a book writer. We also know that it's actual information and not just vague legends because the Fifth Blight happened - in DA:Awakening we meet the Architect, who used Warden's info to find Urthemiel and, being a filthy darkspawn, triggered a Blight by interacting with the Old God. But he didn't do it on purpose! Lokapala fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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I've been replaying DA:O after getting the urge to play through the trilogy on Origin. I find myself replaying DA:O's different origins rather than move on to DA2, which I've never played. I actually failed to realize there are mods for Origins, so I may never make it to DA2 or Inquisition now. I'm hoping that once we get to Orzammar we choose the most satisfying conclusion to its main quest: Tell Bhelen you're willing to let bygones be bygones, complete all his loyalty quests, let him think he's won...then give the crown to Harrowmont at the Assembly. I'm playing as a Dwarf Commoner and chose to do Orzammar as the first quest. Spam
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Only problem with that is that you gently caress the Dwarves doing that which is rather unsatisfying.
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mauman posted:Only problem with that is that you gently caress the Dwarves doing that which is rather unsatisfying. Those nugs didn't think so. e: whoa poo poo necro, sorry
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PART 69: MURDER, SHE READPreviously posted:After helping the Denerim City Watch, our heroes are at a loose end…   Message for you, m'lady. Wha--? More things to deliver. Goodbye. What the heck was that all about?  Aya--whatever happened to the thrill of the hunt? You think it’s a trap? Of course it’s a trap. And such a lazy one too. In my day we laid traps planned around the mark’s habits and vices. We didn’t just write them a note saying ‘please come to our hotel room so we can kill you’. Who would even fall for something like that? Ah, but of course. Hey, I’m curious by nature. Oh, it’s that legitimate businessman you had the stare-off with.  You here about a note? Maybe we have some things we can talk about. Just see the conversation stays civil. If this is a trap... Zevran, is it? You are Taliesin’s responsibility. Other Crows may try to kill you, but in my eyes, you're already dead. So you are of no notice. But the Warden here, she is of great interest to me. But you were hired to kill me. I can't stress enough that I wasn't hired to do anything. An associate was, and he's failed--and failed badly. I'd like to see you do any better. Do you take me for a fool? That's a contract I'd never take. I don’t know. It’s worked out quite well for me so far. Ahem. A client can always hire more... help. If the job isn't done the first time. But I'm hoping we can make sure that doesn't happen. Zevran, is this true? I've only heard of the one time the entire House of Crows was hired for a job. A princely sum changed hands and an entire noble family died. Not one soul survived. Ignacio has the right of it. Generally, it is one master, one job. OK. I’m listening. Ferelden is a busy place: Blight, civil war, other mayhem. Lots of people not getting along. Sometimes they really don't get along. Maybe want to do something about it. The people that handle that sort of thing can get real busy. So you’re hiring help? You could say that. Not many people we can turn to. So someone that's crossed our path and lived... well, maybe they could help out. Make some coin. Everyone wins. Not everyone wins. I should think there’s at least one person who’s going to lose out quite badly. How does this work then? I hand you a scroll. You read it, you learn about someone interesting. If you find out something happens to him, something unfortunate, then if we talk again I give you money for "letting me know." You don't like what's on the scroll, don't do anything. Maybe he has an accident and someone else tells me all about it. Why all the innuendo? We both know what this is about. You can never be too careful. Can you blame someone for being circumspect? If I do this for you, I want no more Crows after me. That I cannot do. One master has a contract on you. But if you help us out, maybe if that master asks for help he'll just get silence, yes?[This quest actually has no effect on Zevran’s troubles or the Crows’ contract on the Warden.] Hand me the scroll. There you go. Makes for fine reading. You're a cautious little weasel, Ignacio; what's your angle? If you're playing us false... My dance is not for you. I need to be real... honest sometimes. And I can say I haven't asked anyone to do anything. I've just given someone something interesting to read. And you think that will save your hide when they nail it to a wall? You're already dead in my eyes, whoreson, take care that I don't "learn" otherwise. Boys, boys. You’re both such lovely, murderous boys. You should be friends. If that's all, luck be to you. LATER…  Someone named ‘Paedan’ has been preying on Grey Warden sympathisers. And someone else wants Paedan dead. And I think that’s a pretty good idea. But what does this poster have to do with any of it? A clue, dear Alistair.  Don't believe the lies! Friends of the Grey Wardens assemble. The hidden pearl holds the key to resistance. The griffons will rise again. Get it? No.  Voila. The hidden Pearl. It’s not that hidden. Half of Denerim knows where this place is. It’s still sort of secret. The sign outside is ten foot tall. You have to find it first, though. That’s the thing. It’s in every guidebook to Denerim. Some of them have it on the cover. There’s no need to be bitter that I figured it out first.    What's the password? The grey nug flies north for the winter. Go away. No, wait. The griffons will rise again. Come in. Quickly.  Another Grey Warden supporter. Not just a supporter, Paedan. That's a Grey Warden. She's the one Arl Howe is looking for. Ta da! Our trap landed a Warden? You’ve got one chance to surrender. Ah ha ha. Why are you doing this? The arl has been very... generous to his servants. Especially those who get bloody jobs done. Money. Really? Ugh. Why are we doing this? Good point. That our work is legal makes it ever so delicious. Walk now and you live, fools. We're not common guards, Warden, We're Howe’s elite. Shaevra, Tennant, and Jarvy--let‘s kill ourselves a Warden. [This fight is hilariously easy.]  ”We’re not common guards, Warden. We’re Howe’s elitaaaaargh my head’s come off.” This assassination lark is easy. Why did you bother spending a decade training, Zevran? I am starting to wonder that myself. BACK AT THE GNAWED NOBLE TAVERN…  A little bird told me one of Loghain's friends had an accident. Terribly unfortunate. You might want to look in the chest behind me. There might be something of interest.  Find everything you need? Same deal with the other scrolls? Deal? Uh... I don't know what you mean. But if anything interesting happens, feel free to come back. And consider that chest yours. So if I kill them, the payment will be in the chest? I never said that. I'm just curious about various people in your kingdom. And sometimes I seem to misplace large pouches of coin, I'm quite careless that way. You do mean what I think you mean? All right, yes. You kill them, look in the bleeding chest. Happy? Everything clear? Now if you don't mind. Hold on a minute here. Are you actually asking me to kill someone? In exchange for money? Money that you will give me? If they die? By my hand?  I still have questions! [Both of the new contracts in Ignacio’s chest require us to leave Denerim to deal with, so I’ll do them another time. I think we’ve almost done everything we can do in Denerim for the moment anyway, but there are still two houses on the south side of the market to investigate.]    Welcome, friends! Welcome to Wade's Emporium. We have the finest armors in Denerim--maybe in all of Ferelden! How may we assist you? Tell me about Wade. You're obviously not from around here. Wade is possibly the most brilliant armorsmith in all of Ferelden.  That's not true, Herren. The dwarves of Orzammar make the finest armors around. drat straight. These piles of rust droppings you force me to make are worthless compared to their work. You never let me have the time, the materials to make something special![The joke here is Wade is a burly blacksmith with the voice and mannerisms of a diva fashion designer. I’m pretty sure Bioware have done this gag before or since, but I can’t remember where.]  Customers expect their armor in a timely fashion. Not years late like the last time-- That happened once, just once, and you never let it drop. Smiths of my people pass work over generations. Centuries. Centuries? You hear that, you young mutt, centuries! What‘s an extra year here and there to make something wonderful. Thank you, dwarf. Your fine point has made my life so much... richer. Let’s see what you have for sale. [Wade’s shop does sell some of the best armor in the game, but a lot of the heavy gear is outclassed by stuff we’ve already picked up in the DLC. The Felon’s Coat is exceptional rogue armor though, and I will definitely pick it up at some point.] This is amazing stuff. Where did you find this, Wade? Herren, the bloody customers are bothering me again. What do I pay you for, anyhow? Sorry, sorry. Wade is a genius. Truly, you will be astonished by his work. But he doesn’t deal with customers. If you need anything, please ask me. And tell her I don't want her looking over my shoulders making doe-eyes at me, either! I’m thinking, blast it all. Truly sorry, sire. Don’t flatter yourself, baldy. Let’s go. [One more house to investigate.]  That's... my sister's house. I'm almost sure of it, this is... yes, this is the right address. She could be inside. Could we... go and see?[Remember this sidequest?] Yes, let’s do that. Will she even know who I am? Does she even know I exist? My sister. That sounds very strange... "sister." "Siiiissster." Please let there not be more like him. Hmmm. Now I'm babbling. Maybe we should go. Let's go. Let's just... go. Knock, knock. Err… Hello?  Eh? You have linens to wash? I charge three bits on the bundle, you won't find better. And don't trust what that Natalia woman tells you either, she's foreign and she'll rob you blind. I'm... not here to have any wash done. My name's Alistair. I'm... well, this may sound sort of strange, but are you Goldanna? If so, I suppose I'm your brother. My what? I am Goldanna, yes... how do you know my name? What kind of tomfoolery are you folk up to? Maybe you two should be left alone. At least let me put Barkley outside. He doesn’t want to see this. No! No, don't go! I... please, stay for now. Look, our mother... she worked as a servant in Redcliffe Castle a long time ago, before she died. Do you know about that? She-- You! I knew it! They told me you was dead! They told me the babe was dead along with mother, but I knew they was lying! They told you I was dead? Who? Who told you that? Them's at the castle! I told them the babe was the king's, and they said he was dead. Gave me a coin to shut my mouth and sent me on my way! I knew it! I'm sorry, I... didn't know that. The babe didn't die. I'm him; I'm... your brother. (Scoffs) For all the good it does me! You killed Mother, you did, and I've had to scrape by all this time? That coin didn't last long, and when I went back they ran me off! That’s hardly Alistair’s fault, is it? And who in the Maker‘s name are you? Some dwarf carrying all his riches, I expect? Hey! Don't speak to her that way! She‘s my friend, and a Grey Warden! Just like me! Ooohhh, I see. A prince and a Grey Warden, too. Well, who am I to think poorly of someone so high and mighty compared to me? I don't know you, boy. Your royal father forced himself on my mother and took her away from me, and what do I got to show for it? Nothing. They tricked me good! I should have told everyone! That wouldn’t have ended well. And just going along with it worked out so perfectly for me? Bah. I got five mouths to feed, and unless you can help with that, I got less than no use for you. I... I'm sorry, I... I don't know what to say... (Persuade) Goldanna, Alistair came here hoping to find his family. [This persuade option doesn’t do anything if you’re playing a female character.]  Well, he found it. And what good is that to me? None, that's what, unless he can see to it that his family lives as it should! I suppose maybe I could give her some money... for my nieces and nephews? Fifteen sovereigns, maybe? Would you let me give her that? You’re kidding. You’re complaining? In the last few days I have been a part of the greatest crime spree Denerim has ever seen, a cavalcade of pickpocketing, burglary, street fighting, poisoning, murder, and sexual deviancy. Two hours ago we killed four men in a prostitute’s bathroom! But most of that stuff was for a good cause! So is this! Ugggggggggh, fine! Yes, go ahead if you like. Then here, Goldanna... take this money. I know it's not much, but-- Not much! You, a prince, marching in here with your fancy armor and such, and this is all you got to offer? You must think I'm very stupid. Yes. You could get far more selling us to Loghain for the bounty. Not helping, Sten. No, wait, I don't think that at all! I want to help, if I can... You want to help? You go to whatever high-and-mighty folks you run with, and you tell them you've got nephews and nieces that aren't living as they've a right to! You do that! This is the family you were searching for, Alistair. Mmm. Yes, apparently so. Then let me promise you this, Goldanna: I'll do whatever I can, speak to whomever I have to, to ensure you and your children are taken care of. Mmm. That sounds all well and fine, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't exactly hold my breath. You have my promise. I can't give you more than that. I... let's go. I want to go. Goodbye, Sister. Well that was... not what I expected. To put it lightly. I'll live up to my promise, I suppose, but... this is the family I've been wondering about all my life? I can't believe it. I... I guess I was expecting her to accept me without question. Isn't that what family is supposed to do? I... I feel like a complete idiot.SUDDENLY, A DECISION! You don’t need her. You have others who care for you. (A)or Everyone is out for themselves. You should learn that. (B)Do we pick the warm and fuzzy response or the cold and cynical one? This decision is superficially unimportant, but it might have some consequences down the road. Consequences that WILL NOT be spoiled by anyone posting in this thread, yes? Voting closes in 3 days-ish. NEXT TIME: A quiet mountain town. NEW CODEX ENTRIES: Dane and the Werewolf Nug (aaaaaaargh) Inferior fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Oct 27, 2019 |
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Everyone is a selfish jerk out for themselves including us. B Make sure to take Sten, Leliana, and Wynne to the quaint mountain village.
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Hi. I just binge read this whole thread, great stuff. And I am just in time for a vote too! Be Bold, go with B
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A sounds like it would lead to something fun, so let's go with that.
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Cynical. The world is a tough place, and he needs to look out for number one. B
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People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.
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B, for the thing down the road it might affect.
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Given the way this PC has been characterized, B is the best option for her to take.
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This scene is gold cause (this isn't spoilers for consequences, just lore stuff) they aren't even related
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Tell Alistair all about what family does to you, especially siblings like Bhelen.
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A because I'm a total carebear.
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B Let all know about the wonders of cynicism
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SgtSteel91 posted:This scene is gold cause (this isn't spoilers for consequences, just lore stuff) spoiler Oh? Thats an amusing tidbit I always missed also b FoolyCharged fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Maybe Alistair shouldn't have shown up in his solid gold king armor if he didn't want to come across as a rich entitled noble. Abstaining from the vote.
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Hm. Honestly, I would vote A, but hte rpoblem is that I play the nicest guy in the whole wide world in this kinda games, but the Dragon Age world? It is a shithole. At this point, my haracter usually decides to tell Alistair to "Man Up" because there is almost no nice people in teh world and he shouldn't hope for another person like my charater to exist. So, yeah, I vote B
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Byzantine posted:Tell Alistair all about what family does to you, especially siblings like Bhelen. yep, family is what you're born with
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"Alistair, let me tell you about my Brother"
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Going for A because I'm a softy (and also don't actually know what this affects)
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B cuz sometimes it pays to be cynical. Doesn't mean you can't be a nice guy and (generally) do the right thing, just that sometimes you need to cut through the bullshit. mauman fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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I love when this thread updates  I vote B for Reasons.
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mauman posted:B cuz sometimes it pays to be cynical. I am convinced. Break his smile and optimism.
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