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Ace of Baes posted:Scott Adams relates to Trump supporters, because he also spent his life dedicated to a now dying industry. 
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Tatum Girlparts posted:so...right wing Yeah, but some people start out right-wing and end up hating women; I think Scott Adams started out hating women and ended up right-wing.
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Stexils posted:i am 100 percent certain the phrase "ratfucker" has appeared multiple times in private RNC emails, secured behind "passwoRd" Trump strikes me as more of a "1-2-3-4-5-" type guy.
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Stexils posted:i am 100 percent certain the phrase "ratfucker" has appeared multiple times in private RNC emails, secured behind "passwoRd" It'd be pretty funny if those RNC emails suddenly leaked in six months, wouldn't it?
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Stexils posted:this was like 20 pages ago but someone posted the republicans might not have gotten hacked because they had tighter security measures or were more professional in what they used their email for and to that guy i say: lol More likely: the RNC is still using street urchins as couriers.
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HannibalBarca posted:Yeah, but some people start out right-wing and end up hating women; I think Scott Adams started out hating women and ended up right-wing. Scott Adams' brain completely broke sometime in the last few years. Before that he was just kind of a general weirdo and his notes in earlier Dilbert comic collections were fairly normal. I think what happened was that he got divorced and hasn't been able to get over it.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Scott Adams' brain completely broke sometime in the last few years. Before that he was just kind of a general weirdo and his notes in earlier Dilbert comic collections were fairly normal. Part of it is that he got a rare disease that caused him to lose the ability to speak but somehow managed to regain his voice through sheer force of will, so now he literally thinks that he is an irl wizard
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paranoid randroid posted:because there are, historically, a lot of real stupid angry mother fuckers itt. fortunately of late they seem to have gone elsewhere. It was a very good article. It made me sad. I liked this: quote:Pointing to citizens who voted for both Obama and Trump does not disprove racism; it evinces it. To secure the White House, Obama needed to be a Harvard-trained lawyer with a decade of political experience and an incredible gift for speaking to cross sections of the country; Donald Trump needed only money and white bluster. I liked Coates' imagery of Obama as a President that walked on ice and never fell. I truly believe that we will look back on the Obama Presidency as a golden age in politics; history will be kind to him.
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radical meme posted:I liked Coates' imagery of Obama as a President that walked on ice and never fell. I truly believe that we will look back on the Obama Presidency as a golden age in politics; history will be kind to him. lmao
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HorseRenoir posted:Part of it is that he got a rare disease that caused him to lose the ability to speak but somehow managed to regain his voice through sheer force of will, so now he literally thinks that he is an irl wizard sheer force of will and a routine surgery to restore his power of speech.
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History will be incredibly kind to Obama, especially now that Trump is following him. I am positive in the history books it'll be 'look this guy was imperfect, and he messed some things up, but the right wing did everything they could to cripple him and holy poo poo look they elected the platonic ideal of their racist and knee jerk rage to president right after him'.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:History will be incredibly kind to Obama, especially now that Trump is following him. I am positive in the history books it'll be 'look this guy was imperfect, and he messed some things up, but the right wing did everything they could to cripple him and holy poo poo look they elected the platonic ideal of their racist and knee jerk rage to president right after him'. wow, tatum learned sarcasm .............................that's sarcasm, right?
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Mirthless posted:wow, tatum learned sarcasm I'm not saying if it's right or wrong, I'm just positive by the time Trump is finished any flaws Obama had will overshadowed in a big way, and he's already right now an insanely popular outgoing president. He's going to get the Kennedy treatment of being lionized partially on what he did and partially what he ~meant to the country~.
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Mirthless posted:wow, tatum learned sarcasm his presidency is bracketed by GWB on one side, who ran an administration full of people who literally thought democracy was magical and that you could bomb people into acting like Iowans, and Trump on the other, who by all appearances is going to be a Gilded Age kleptocrat solely interested in pillaging the country if we are lucky so yeah Obamas going to come out looking pretty good by comparison
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How about people actually sorta believed that obama might actually change something loving nobody believed hillary would hell most hillbots triumphantly said shed just keep things the same
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kibaces posted:https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/808738710770618370 loving christ
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kibaces posted:https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/808738710770618370 Depends on how much sway Obama's crew still has. A lot of major players have already endorsed Ellison so it might be too late
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obama dug his own grave tbqh, bailing out the banks while not punishing or reforming them at all and deliberately undermining a public option in the healthcare fight killed any enthusiasm for the democrats. he had a mandate and he pissed it away, no surprise the Ds got steadily voted out. im baffled that anyone thinks history will be kind to the guy who accomplished jack through his lack of leadership and gridlock
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obama could've just pressed the public option button but the tiny republican devil on his shoulder whispered evil words about DEATH PANELS and instead he didn't
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Stexils posted:obama dug his own grave tbqh, bailing out the banks while not punishing or reforming them at all and deliberately undermining a public option in the healthcare fight killed any enthusiasm for the democrats. he had a mandate and he pissed it away, no surprise the Ds got steadily voted out. im baffled that anyone thinks history will be kind to the guy who accomplished jack through his lack of leadership and gridlock Thank you comrade for your input. How's the search for true socialists to run against the Third Way traitors to the working man going? I probably should have just posted "lmao". radical meme has issued a correction as of 00:55 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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TNCs thesis is that the central failing of the Obama administration, and the thing that ultimately made him electable at all, was that he simply put too much trust in the decency of his opposition and America as a whole. a more combative Obama would never have made it to the presidency.
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I am NOT voting for Obama again, end of story.
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logikv9 posted:obama could've just pressed the public option button but the tiny republican devil on his shoulder whispered evil words about DEATH PANELS and instead he didn't the guy obama put in charge of drafting his healthcare bill was the senator with the most campaign contributions from health insurance companies in the senate
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Stexils posted:the guy obama put in charge of drafting his healthcare bill was the senator with the most campaign contributions from health insurance companies in the senate Ah. You see that's a good thing though, because he knows the system in and out, and will be able to get things done.
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radical meme posted:Thank you comrade for your input. How's the search for true socialists to run against the Third Way traitors to the working man going? so which of obama's accomplisments, comrade, do you think merits the term "golden age of politics"
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Stexils posted:so which of obama's accomplisments, comrade, do you think merits the term "golden age of politics" obama is a charismatic man who speaks nice and is leaving office with record approval ratings. lol nothing matters
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Stexils posted:the guy obama put in charge of drafting his healthcare bill was the senator with the most campaign contributions from health insurance companies in the senate a public option containing ACA and/or medicare for all would have definitely gotten past lieberman and the blue dogs, yep
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S'all relative, innit? Obama's tenure was a golden age compared to the radioactive dust bowl where the living envy the dead, hth
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paranoid randroid posted:his presidency is bracketed by GWB on one side, who ran an administration full of people who literally thought democracy was magical and that you could bomb people into acting like Iowans, and Trump on the other, who by all appearances is going to be a Gilded Age kleptocrat solely interested in pillaging the country if we are lucky I don't think he will though- he was/is a personally brilliant politician who was only really able to resolve the immediate crisis facing the nation left by the past administration, and not in a way that left the public satisfied or addressed the underlying issue. He had one signature domestic policy achievement, which was compromised from birth, and his foreign policy record is, at best, mixed. His party lost ground for 8 years before his successor lost the presidency in wave of populist anger and disinterested disgust at the government's inability to meaningfully address the deteriorating prospects and material conditions of a majority of the country. He's not going to be viewed as unfavorably as GWB or Trump, but he's also not going to be viewed as a particularly effective figure, and unlike Kennedy he didn't tragically die so there's no mystical what if? to cover his flaws. I think in the long view he'll be remembered as an extremely talented politician whose fundamentally decent character and good intentions were undone by an outlook and attitude somewhat unsuited to facing the challenges of his day.
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logikv9 posted:a public option containing ACA and/or medicare for all would have definitely gotten past lieberman and the blue dogs, yep if lieberman wanted to be a dick, you cut off his balls that's how a party that gets things done operates
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but secretly, he didn't actually want to do anything, so at the nearest opportunity, when a believable enough 'speedbump' presents itself, you just throw up your hands and say 'gee shucks, guess it can't happen  ' (not that I wanted to do it anyway)
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logikv9 posted:obama could've just pressed the public option button but the tiny republican devil on his shoulder whispered evil words about DEATH PANELS and instead he didn't Well he could have tried asking for it or somehow signaling its inclusion was important. From all appearances he never even supported implenting it. From all appearances he was in absolute terms actually kind of super lovely, pro corporate, short sighted and so overly concerned with his legacy that he wasnt willing to do anything risky, which is ok because a lot of the stuff he wanted was more of the same poo poo that made so much of the country kind of lovely. Most of the genuinely good things he "accomplished" were done by others, and much of what he did personally either hosed the dems or the country over in the long run. Also, he is largely responsible for giving us the Hillary Campaign and giving additional weapons to Trump he could have done away with. In absolute terms, he was at best mediocre with a mix of good and bad, but imo it was mostly bad Still, Obama is going to have a good reputation because at least he had an interest in governing and not destroying the country and boy oh boy are people going to be looking back on that sort of thing with nostalgia soon enough He also had the bonus of seeming to be an actual human being who took his job seriously without letting it turn him into a machine GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 01:17 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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imo the kids who grew up Obama will remember him more fondly than history will. pop culture will be kind to him like it was to Clinton before him
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paranoid randroid posted:the central failing of the Obama administration, and the thing that ultimately made him electable at all, was that he simply put too much trust in the decency of his opposition and America as a whole. a more combative Obama would never have made it to the presidency. 
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rudatron posted:but secretly, he didn't actually want to do anything, so at the nearest opportunity, when a believable enough 'speedbump' presents itself, you just throw up your hands and say 'gee shucks, guess it can't happen cool mindreading bro
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y'know I like the new "Obama was always a puppet of the evil neoliberal conspiracy all along" historical paradigm y'all have decided on and by "like" I am "am amused by" no he can't just be an optimist with a desire to do good but who had a tendency to cave in prematurely and had to contend with some of the most rabid opponents of any president ever, Obama has to have been secretly evil all along
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