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Joementum posted:<THREAD> Out of love for the truth and from desire to elucidate it, the Reverend Father Martin Luther, Master of Arts and Sacred Theology, and ordinary lecturer therein at Wittenberg, intends to offer some game theory... 1/95 ha ha HA ha ha heh haa heh ghehehe
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I assure you the takeaway at the DNC will be that Trump was such a bad candidate that it lulled the Clinton camp into a false sense of security you knew drat well he was a snake before you took him in
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CubsWoo posted:I assure you the takeaway at the DNC will be that Trump was such a bad candidate that it lulled the Clinton camp into a false sense of security Well, that probably did happen.
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The Kingfish posted:Calling him a traveling salesman seems like a dismissive attack to me. Huey was a traveling salesman for a few years after highschool and he learned a lot about the character of different LA communities during that time. He had a genius for sales, but was also a brilliant and principled lawyer. It could definitely be read that way, but everything I've read about him has described his time as a traveling salesman as a benefit to his future career. He learned to work a crowd and connect with people, which I think really served him well later on. Especially relevant today given that we are soon to be ruled by the modern day equivalent of a traveling salesman. People can use it as an attack, but that would be pretty stupid imo
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Well, that probably did happen. Trump has a signed copy of the Ali tribute book in his penthouse The ultimate rope-a-dope
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Joementum posted:<THREAD> Out of love for the truth and from desire to elucidate it, the Reverend Father Martin Luther, Master of Arts and Sacred Theology, and ordinary lecturer therein at Wittenberg, intends to offer some game theory... 1/95
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Well, that probably did happen. nah, then underestimating trump would have ment they would have focused on all the normal states and ignored Arizona and the like. Underestimation makes people do their basic poo poo. The problem is that the Hillary campaign was arrogant and didn't even do the basic poo poo.
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smug loving assholes https://twitter.com/b11377/status/809036316168044544
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Agean90 posted:nah, then underestimating trump would have ment they would have focused on all the normal states and ignored Arizona and the like. Underestimation makes people do their basic poo poo. I disagree, they wouldn't have taken swing states for granted and swung for the fences on red-leaning states if they didn't underestimate him
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loquacius posted:I disagree, they wouldn't have taken swing states for granted and swung for the fences on red-leaning states if they didn't underestimate him Yeah your prolly right, the two arnt mutually exclusive and I'm mostly using it as and excuse to talk poo poo about hilldawg
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Dec 14, 2016 16:09
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yo gently caress hillary, she needs to be blacklisted from the party jfc
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seriously, everyone read that politico article. what the gently caress http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michigan-hillary-clinton-trump-232547 Everybody could see Hillary Clinton was cooked in Iowa. So when, a week-and-a-half out, the Service Employees International Union started hearing anxiety out of Michigan, union officials decided to reroute their volunteers, giving a desperate team on the ground around Detroit some hope. They started prepping meals and organizing hotel rooms. SEIU — which had wanted to go to Michigan from the beginning, but been ordered not to — dialed Clinton’s top campaign aides to tell them about the new plan. According to several people familiar with the call, Brooklyn was furious. Turn that bus around, the Clinton team ordered SEIU. Those volunteers needed to stay in Iowa to fool Donald Trump into competing there, not drive to Michigan, where the Democrat’s models projected a 5-point win through the morning of Election Day. Michigan organizers were shocked. It was the latest case of Brooklyn ignoring on-the-ground intel and pleas for help in a race that they felt slipping away at the end.
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The Clinton campaign thought they were so in the clear for winning that they could try a bunch of new experimental poo poo to make a sea change in electoral politics and mook and podesta would go down in history as Carville style masterminds. In addition to and besides this, they also ran a loving stupid campaign for idiots.
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Dec 14, 2016 16:12
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Bushiz posted:they also ran a loving stupid campaign for idiots. accurate summary
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Joementum posted:<THREAD> Out of love for the truth and from desire to elucidate it, the Reverend Father Martin Luther, Master of Arts and Sacred Theology, and ordinary lecturer therein at Wittenberg, intends to offer some game theory... 1/95
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I really hope the hackers got more than the email because I want to see the campaign balance sheets in total.
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Bushiz posted:The Clinton campaign thought they were so in the clear for winning that they could try a bunch of new experimental poo poo to make a sea change in electoral politics and mook and podesta would go down in history as Carville style masterminds. pretty much yea. I only hope this leads to the 2020 campaigns to all have a large person in the planning room with a wooden spoon that bonks anyone who says 'we have this state on lock, don't worry' over the head.
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Bushiz posted:I really hope the hackers got more than the email because I want to see the campaign balance sheets in total.  But in the interest of fairness, I'm eagerly awaiting the RNC release.
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MizPiz posted:
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We can accuse them of being Carville style masterminds, but Carville was the one who coined the phrase "it's the economy, stupid". This was a severe case of the Democrats refusing to listen to their own electoral success stories.
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I have gone from laughing at the hackers to cheering for them
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Tatum Girlparts posted:lol that's not gonna come I still have hope, dammit!
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:We can accuse them of being Carville style masterminds, but Carville was the one who coined the phrase "it's the economy, stupid". point of important clarity, they WANTED to be Carville style masterminds. No one is claiming they WERE. Carville on election night was one of my faves, looking back, if only because he was probably one of the first dems to start saying 'haha yea man she's gonna lose this with these states going red'. Just like, perfect Carville style of 'yea this fuckin sucks but let's not pretend it's not happening.' We should have listened.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:point of important clarity, they WANTED to be Carville style masterminds. No one is claiming they WERE. yeah carville was worth keeping an eye on rewtaching election night msnbc he gets into what id say is a cold panic or something elveryone else is dazed
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Serf posted:I have gone from laughing at the hackers to cheering for them seeing liberals go apoplectic over the emails has been lol pre-election: pff the emails aren't a big deal, they are one Nothing Burger post-election: let's go to war over this poo poo
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LinYutang posted:seeing liberals go apoplectic over the emails has been lol I'm still unconvinced they had any impact on her numbers, but now they provide a valuable window into the complete and utter failure that her campaign really was and now seeing that this was caused by a lame phishing email and a typo from some intern has made it all much more hilarious. I hope they got tons more and dump it all, because that's where we're gonna get any insights about this failure from
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Joementum posted:<THREAD> Out of love for the truth and from desire to elucidate it, the Reverend Father Martin Luther, Master of Arts and Sacred Theology, and ordinary lecturer therein at Wittenberg, intends to offer some game theory... 1/95
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Joementum posted:
Lawn signs are pretty lovely, but how can they claim that canvassing isn't effective?
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The thing was run by D&D posters.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Lawn signs are pretty lovely, but how can they claim that canvassing isn't effective? This election has taught me lawn signs make excellent idiot traps. 
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Lawn signs are pretty lovely, but how can they claim that canvassing isn't effective? bill mitchell believed in the power of lawn signs and look what happened
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Serf posted:bill mitchell believed in the power of lawn signs and look what happened
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Lawn signs are pointless and do very little for you but you don't sell yard signs because yard signs work, you sell yard signs so, ya know, when some old lady in Flint calls you asking for one you can happily send over some campaign worker to bring her a sign and talk about how great it is she's helping out and ask if there's anything else she needs. Signs themselves are useless but they're incredibly powerful canvassing tools and lol @ the woman who's husband ran the most powerful ground game in modern elections not seeming to get that.
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Serf posted:bill mitchell believed in the power of lawn signs and look what happened I'm actually open to the idea of the hats being a genius idea. It turns you into a mobile campaign side with a human face, ready to engage in one-on-one discussion anywhere.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Lawn signs are pretty lovely, but how can they claim that canvassing isn't effective? A reminder that we all (correctly, but still) made fun of folks for 'facebanking'. I feel like even spamming peoples' facebook feeds would have been better than the Clinton campaign strategy of doing literally nothing at all.
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MizPiz posted:This election has taught me lawn signs make excellent idiot traps. https://twitter.com/Daniel_Ohana/status/795436627665518592 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaYdi2lIWCI
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm actually open to the idea of the hats being a genius idea. It turns you into a mobile campaign side with a human face, ready to engage in one-on-one discussion anywhere. yeah, the hats were 'powerful' ever worn a redhat? in public? in canada? in liberal vancuckver? thats power.
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Serf posted:bill mitchell believed in the power of lawn signs and look what happened
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you can make fun of the trump campaign for a lot of things but i don't think there's much argument that the hats and slogan weren't a great idea
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docbeard posted:A reminder that we all (correctly, but still) made fun of folks for 'facebanking'. Probably yea. Facebanking was stupid and did almost nothing, but 'almost nothing' is better than 'literal nothing'.
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if lawn signs didn't do anything they wouldn't be valuable by acting as a display of ideological leaning, if you get enough people to display it, it normalizes it so tl;dr when an old lady asks for a lawn sign you drat well give her one
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