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Nutsngum
Oct 9, 2004

I don't think it's nice, you laughing.

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revdrkevind
Dec 15, 2013
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WampaLord posted:

"It's a torture device for the modern age."

Right, so have a cheaply paid intern watch all the videos beforehand.

Very modern.

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

Well this episode had no rules and no screening and it worked out fine so if they want to just keep doing that it's fine with me.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

i dont want them to get an intern because they would just torture and make fun of some poor kid and it would take the heat off of josh who we already know deserves it.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

loving lmao at "incorrect"

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Isn't the dude from the beanie baby tape the same as the guy who made made the dog sitter video?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

lazorexplosion posted:

Well this episode had no rules and no screening and it worked out fine so if they want to just keep doing that it's fine with me.

Exactly this. No pre-screening. You need the duds to make the amazing tapes stand out. Not everything can be a Shoji or an SOS.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Another reason duds work is sometimes you get poo poo like Tree Stand Safety. Where the gang is all excited for the video and then it turns out to be really terrible and they regret everything.

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

I want the concrete reality of being part of the gang and that means taking the best

with the worst

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Another reason duds work is sometimes you get poo poo like Tree Stand Safety. Where the gang is all excited for the video and then it turns out to be really terrible and they regret everything.

Yes, moments like that are so worth it. I love Mike admitting that their guesses beforehand of which tapes will be great have been almost totally wrong.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

1500quidporsche posted:

They need somebody to screen the videos beforehand. Mike seems against carrying films over but it seems like a necessary evil, just pay some college kid $100 to skim through a box of VHS tapes and decide which ones are worth putting on the wheel.

No, seeing the guys get upset about boring videos is also entertaining

Nutsngum
Oct 9, 2004

I don't think it's nice, you laughing.

Randarkman posted:

Isn't the dude from the beanie baby tape the same as the guy who made made the dog sitter video?

Yep, thats the guy.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Soral posted:

jim ("the other canadian") should be on more often just to read the film titles off the wheel, which is when he is at his most powerful

agreed

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Dec 15, 2013
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The cast seem like they legitimately don't want to do any future episodes of this because it's not fun to do. That's why I would voice a concern.

Guy Goodbody posted:

No, seeing the guys get upset about boring videos is also entertaining

Is that what you think people are saying? I don't think anybody is saying pull all the dud tapes off the board, but if someone could make sure none of the tapes are unwatchable as in would eat the machine or the tracking is so bad nobody will watch it, or if the board could be set at a decent mix so the cast are guaranteed that there's some gold worth sitting for. You gotta have at least one winner on the board, whether it's a good concept that goes dud or whatever.

Like I have a kung-fu movie I've never watched that says it's about midgets. No idea if it's good, but I'd put it in the lineup because at least people will come to see it.

So some tapes are legitimately just not worth it, they're not fun to watch and they're not worth talking about in any way whatsoever. That was the first round of screening at mst3k, like make sure when the movie was recorded they lit it to the point that something was visible onscreen and the tape isn't 6 minutes long. Second round was the guys would screen the movie together and look for something worth riffing, which is where they record BOTW. That's all I'd suggest to them.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

revdrkevind posted:

The cast seem like they legitimately don't want to do any future episodes of this because it's not fun to do. That's why I would voice a concern.

I think you're reading way too much into one video.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

LanceHunter posted:

Plinketto is an acceptable substitute. Honestly, I can see how it could be tough to find enough videos for the wheel that won't be terrible. It's not like there are another 100 potential Shoji videos they have laying around.

Edit: Also I wonder if they dropped this mega-wheel episode today to make up for not doing a Half in the Bag on Rogue One. Because if they just ignored Rogue One completely that would be kinda awesome.

there's also only so many interesting bad VHS tapes out there. best of the worst can go on forever because they watch actual movies and there's shitloads of those and more bad movies being made every day (niel breen, len kabasinski) but on wheel they watch grab bag random poo poo from the 80's and 90's like self help videos and so on. found footage as a genre has been around since VHS itself, a lot of the interesting tapes are known and talked about if you've had an interest in the genre for a while or follow other found tape aggregators like tv carnage, everything is terrible, found footage festival etc.

every so often rlm turns up something great like osteoperosis dance that's slipped under the radar but stranger dangers with corny and nightmare on drug street have both been dissected by everything is terrible already, etc. rlm found tree stand safety to be pretty boring but eit had a good take

:nws: i guess for dead animals, it's a hunting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14RCMACTl9o

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 14, 2016

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

LOL at there already being a pre-existing "bad VHS tapes" scene that already knows all the big ones.

"Oh did you hear RLM just found out about the Shoji VHS? What a bunch of Johnny come latelies!"

Sazabi
Feb 15, 2014

A-MA-ZON!!

boner confessor posted:

If you've had an interest in the genre for a while or follow other found tape aggregators like tv carnage, everything is terrible, found footage festival etc.

every so often rlm turns up something great like osteoperosis dance that's slipped under the radar but stranger dangers with corny and nightmare on drug street have both been dissected by everything is terrible already, etc. rlm found tree stand safety to be pretty boring but eit had a good take

:nws: i guess for dead animals, it's a hunting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14RCMACTl9o

I have a question. Do any of the youtube "found tape aggregators" you mention have Rich Evans, Mike Stuckinastupor, or josh THE WIZARD in their videos? Because that's what I'm interested in watching. Not some kid pretending that his nitpick of 'raiders of atlantis' is clever and meaningful, I want a table of sad drunks(and Rich Evans) visibly distraught because of some dead eyed demon and her cow puppet just taught the the ABC. Sure once or twice RLM watched a movie that mst3k saw first, but that didn't exactly spoil the episode for me just because I had seen the movie they we're about to watch.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Sazabi posted:

I have a question. Do any of the youtube "found tape aggregators" you mention have Rich Evans, Mike Stuckinastupor, or josh THE WIZARD in their videos? Because that's what I'm interested in watching. Not some kid pretending that his nitpick of 'raiders of atlantis' is clever and meaningful, I want a table of sad drunks(and Rich Evans) visibly distraught because of some dead eyed demon and her cow puppet just taught the the ABC. Sure once or twice RLM watched a movie that mst3k saw first, but that didn't exactly spoil the episode for me just because I had seen the movie they we're about to watch.

thats not my point, calm down nerdlinger i didn't insult rich evans

im saying that, if you follow these other (also very good) groups that talk about this same subject (weird VHS tapes) you can see there's only so many weird VHS tapes out there that are worth watching and it's likely that you'll get bored of watching them after you run into enough bad ones

Sazabi
Feb 15, 2014

A-MA-ZON!!

boner confessor posted:

thats not my point, calm down nerdlinger i didn't insult rich evans

im saying that, if you follow these other (also very good) groups that talk about this same subject (weird VHS tapes) you can see there's only so many weird VHS tapes out there that are worth watching and it's likely that you'll get bored of watching them after you run into enough bad ones

Do you mean us the viewer of RLM or them the...also viewer but is RLM. If you mean us then that's up to the individual, but I would say mst3k has been around in one form or another since 1990 with a constant fanbase so some people haven't gotten bored yet. If you mean the chaps at RLM, well I'd say they are constantly suffering from boredom especially this episode. But after like 4 years and a few hundred movies they seem no worse for wear. Mike's purple hands are cleaning up. Jake got rid of that facial hair. Jay is even more of a dreamboat than when they started. Jessie probably died, but we all knew there would be losses.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
mst3k reviews actual movies and short films, not rando cash in VHS boom tapes from the dollar store. there's a big difference between the giant backlog of poo poo movies versus odd niche one off tapes like heavy metal parking lot, be cool about fire safety, strong kids, safe kids etc. so on which are much more likely to be boring trash than a whole lovely movie

i think the rlm guys have more interest in doing best of the worst because then they can talk about film making, a subject which more of them are interested in, than the more bizarre cultural ephemera that's inherent in found footage. like exploding varmits was funny but there's really only a few things to talk about there compared to the half hour they spent talking about the excellent bad movie rotor

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
I know copyright troubles aren't worth it, but I wish they could somehow make rips of these tapes available online somewhere. How in the hell am I going to find a copy of Safe Crossing? Or Dance of Birth?

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

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Paladinus posted:

They should make a porn parody of the Wheel of the Worst and call it The Wheel of the Wurst.

<splurt sound effect>

<Mike making his goofy face>

<slow zoom in on Rich's dead eyes>

MrSlam posted:

I know copyright troubles aren't worth it, but I wish they could somehow make rips of these tapes available online somewhere. How in the hell am I going to find a copy of Safe Crossing? Or Dance of Birth?

Find the local woo-woo crystal shop in your city. I guarantee they will have two copies of Dance of Birth on a back shelf somewhere

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

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Justin Credible
Aug 27, 2003

happy cat


They should have kept with the drug video, I watched it in highschool and it's hilarious. I mean the girl trades a diamond necklace for an 8ball of coke which she then does in a single night and dies. And that poor little black kid gets hooked on crack and dies during a break from dinner with his parents in his seemingly middle class household by smoking crack in the bathroom. The whole thing was just so preposterous and ridiculous and out of touch it was super funny.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Free Drinks posted:

You know, "Surviving edged weapons" would probably make a good BOTW since it's a surreal and bizarre combination of bad production values and some insanely graphic depictions of violence. The way the narrator just lists off the types of weapons so calmly and plainly is so god drat strange. Not to mention the demonstrations of knife techniques that just look like the guy is flailing around. It'd be like Exploding Varmints where most of the laughs are more out of shock and disgust rather than "haha thats funny" but drat if it wouldn't be funny to watch their reactions to it.

Their reaction to the sword through the door and the crossbow would be amazing.

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Schweinhund posted:

um, hello... Josh?

Plus Josh would work for magic the gathering cards

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

I thought Josh was their intern.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

I find it bizarre that people think this is the last wheel of the worst based on one comment in the episode, when they have said it so many times before including pretending to throw the wheel in a dumpster.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
the stupid prank video is a rip off of the tv show just for laughs : gags which is the exact same thing as that video except that its been broadcast on canadian tv for like ten years

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

thexerox123 posted:

I find it bizarre that people think this is the last wheel of the worst based on one comment in the episode, when they have said it so many times before including pretending to throw the wheel in a dumpster.

Goons read way too much into everything, what else is new?

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
holy poo poo just for laugh gags has been running 16 years actually and has been sold to over a hundred networks i cannot understand its so bad

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow

violent sex idiot posted:

holy poo poo just for laugh gags has been running 16 years actually and has been sold to over a hundred networks i cannot understand its so bad

have you seen other pranks shows? the bar to beat is very, very low

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

StarMinstrel posted:

have you seen other pranks shows? the bar to beat is very, very low

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

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StarMinstrel posted:

have you seen other pranks shows? the bar to beat is very, very low

People call Jackass juvenile, but within their own genre they are like the genius spawn of Mozart, Picasso, and Hemingway.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

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Lipstick Apathy
I like that one prank i saw online taking place somewhere in Europe where they just had like a really hot naked chick bathing herself in a tub talking to strangers passing by

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
just for laugh gags is like a man in a police uniform harasses you and then surprise they point at the camera

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Jul 6, 2003

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You are all forgetting even the most mundane tapes they find have resulted in their funniest episodes. The Osteoporosis Dance will always be my favourite. Saddest thing about that episode (other than the ladies who are likely dead by now) is the lovely American Flatulators video. Every goddamn time it takes the wind right out of the sails following the Osteoporosis Dance. I guess there isn't much you can follow with that though.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

quote:

American Flatulators... takes the wind out of their sails
:laugh:

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dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.
first of all, i hate eveyrone ITT

second, the wide shot of the discussion is undersaturated and the black level is too high. get your loving grading right.

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