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Ace of Baes posted:critique on where they were allocating resources was met with "there's people much smarter than you, with lots of data and algorithms, deciding these things". The year of the media complaining about people ignoring experts capstoned by a bunch of "experts" being outwitted by the white Don King and the racist who owns the right to Seinfeld
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Dec 14, 2016 18:25
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Majorian posted:Tbf, that's a lot of what Trump did with her too. That was definitely not what Trump's campaign was founded on.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:27
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Bushiz posted:It's interesting because the poo poo in Texas probably helped flip some pretty important seats in Harris County. We have a DA and sherrif that aren't basing their entire law enforcement style on "more homeless people in prison" now, which is cool. Hell of a way to spend 1.2 billion tho. Yea I wanna be really clear on this. Her plan of 'work on laying down game in Texas and other states like it' was actually really good. The Clinton campaign is basically why my county sucks a whole lot less in its criminal justice section now. Her strategy of 'sink EVERYTHING into Texas and other states like it, and ignore loving MICHIGAN' is what's stupid.
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lol any more info on this that isnt fox news Because 2016 spending its final days making GBS threads on Hillary is fukken great
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Dec 14, 2016 18:29
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docbeard posted:I actually am. Hillary Clinton is many things, but I never would have put "idiot" on the list. (Then again, I doubt she had much to do with direct campaign strategy, so "person who hires idiots" is probably more accurate.) I mean, not an idiot in the sense of a low IQ or anything. But in the sense of "terrible leader who surrounded herself with yes men who huffed their own farts"? Yeah. Also I don't get how people can look at how she populated and ran her campaigns and still think she would have been a good president. A big part of being an executive is being able to surround yourself with competent people. And she has consistently failed at that. Why would her presidency have been any different?
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Dec 14, 2016 18:31
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Thoguh posted:I mean, not an idiot in the sense of a low IQ or anything. But in the sense of "terrible leader who surrounded herself with yes men who huffed their own farts"? Yeah. Yea I'm probably the biggest HRC apologist left on these forums but this is about a fair assessment. I think she's a very intelligent person, but she ran one of the dumbest major campaigns of the modern election ages and yea that's an indictment on her as a leader if she signed off on poo poo like 'signs? gently caress OFF LADY THE COMPUTER SAYS NO SIGNS'
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Dec 14, 2016 18:34
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Agean90 posted:lol any more info on this that isnt fox news http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/
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Al! posted:the sig just got 400 pixels higher i half way want to add a new rule that says sigs must not be more than 10,000 pixels tall just to encourage everyone to get 9,999 pixel tall sigs but nooo i don't want to troll with forums rules lamo
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Credit to Tatum, you are absolutely not the biggest HRC apologist on these forums or even ITT half of D&D is still in "Clinton did nothing wrong and you are bad if you suggest she is flawed in any way" mode
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Dec 14, 2016 18:35
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Agean90 posted:lol any more info on this that isnt fox news "More votes than voters" in a growing city has been a fake voter fraud talking point for years, because it generally doesn't account for new registrations. That's why Fox and Friends gave it their 15-second "here's a thing to sow doubt in your mind and now we won't talk about it again" hit-and-run that they're really good at.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:36
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Thoguh posted:Also I don't get how people can look at how she populated and ran her campaigns and still think she would have been a good president. A big part of being an executive is being able to surround yourself with competent people. And she has consistently failed at that. Why would her presidency have been any different? Yeah, I'm definitely revising certain assessments in light of the evidence. (Still would rather have her in than Trump. I mean, obviously.)
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logikv9 posted:Excuse me she bleaches them, it is a very expensive process my favorite part about that trump line is someone pointed out that it means he at some point paid ALOT of money to wipe computers
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Dec 14, 2016 18:40
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loquacius posted:Credit to Tatum, you are absolutely not the biggest HRC apologist on these forums or even ITT link because i'm not going there
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Dec 14, 2016 18:40
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I joked when the first few articles about how Hillary hosed It All Up Jesus Christ came out that I could've run the campaign better. I'm not jokin' no more when I say I'm pretty sure I could've run the campaign better. Like, I'm pretty sure Baloogan could've run the campaign better.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:43
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rudatron posted:really? The more tempermental ones are oddly silent since the articles been spammed across threads. Still haven't figured out how it's proof of a joint Russia/alt-right campaign.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:44
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/13/watch_samantha_bee_dissect_the_democratic_party_s_crisis_of_leadership_video.html Samantha Bee Wants the Democratic Party to Embrace Identity Politics  
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Dec 14, 2016 18:46
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The only real problem I have with focusing on Hillary's campaign mistakes is that they legit weren't the only things going on in the election, and I don't want to see our folks who run in 2020 all proud that they're doing, you know, actual campaigning all over the country only to be taken by surprise by things like voter suppression and Donald Trump not actually being a complete pushover on the campaign trail.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:47
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The Politico piece reminded me of this Gawker article before it died I had forgotten about http://gawker.com/dont-blow-this-1775111772
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Dec 14, 2016 18:48
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/13/watch_samantha_bee_dissect_the_democratic_party_s_crisis_of_leadership_video.html I can't help but be reminded that Samantha Bee and her husband actually fought school integration in the Upper West Side whenever I see stories like this.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:49
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rudatron posted:really? I admit it's less about Clinton herself and more about clinging to third-way-ism, but this conversation from last week comes to mind I tried saying "hey maybe economic justice and social justice aren't actually opposing forces at all" and this is the kind of stuff I saw RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/13/watch_samantha_bee_dissect_the_democratic_party_s_crisis_of_leadership_video.html wait so what were they doing before
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/13/watch_samantha_bee_dissect_the_democratic_party_s_crisis_of_leadership_video.html In fairness, I do think that one of the smartest things that the economic justice wing of the left could do to get their point across is to start referring to class as an identity.
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/13/watch_samantha_bee_dissect_the_democratic_party_s_crisis_of_leadership_video.html Also for her school to be whites only
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Dec 14, 2016 18:51
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Ace of Baes posted:There's still a lot of Hillary supporters in denial, my network of volunteers/friends I made during the campaign basically split in the week following the election, one side recognizing that we lost because of bad campaign/msg/party, the other half still believing (or at least claiming), that Hillary only lost because racism/sexism/Russia/Comey. hell even in cspam people refuse to admit that there were many, many reasons why hillary lost
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Yeah I think the quieting down of the Hillarymen and the increased bravado of the farther left itt has a lot to do with the fact that every 48 hours we get a new article that says "remember that incredibly dumb thing the Clinton campaign did that we wrote a 2,000 word article about, 48 hours ago? The thing that made you think 'Jesus Christ there's nothing they could have done that was worse and dumber than this?' well guess what!"
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/13/watch_samantha_bee_dissect_the_democratic_party_s_crisis_of_leadership_video.html I agree we shouldn't abandon 'identity politics' and functionally let the right win in their campaign of pretending that stuff is inherently bad. Can we maybe get this opinion from someone not literally fighting school integration?
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Dec 14, 2016 18:53
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docbeard posted:The only real problem I have with focusing on Hillary's campaign mistakes is that they legit weren't the only things going on in the election, and I don't want to see our folks who run in 2020 all proud that they're doing, you know, actual campaigning all over the country only to be taken by surprise by things like voter suppression and Donald Trump not actually being a complete pushover on the campaign trail. It's really more about shaming the centerists into taking the backseat. We're all aware that voter suppression is a very realll thing the needs to be vehemently faught against, but it can't be done if the do-nothing whiners are still making decisions.
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Bushiz posted:Yeah I think the quieting down of the Hillarymen and the increased bravado of the farther left itt has a lot to do with the fact that every 48 hours we get a new article that says "remember that incredibly dumb thing the Clinton campaign did that we wrote a 2,000 word article about, 48 hours ago? The thing that made you think 'Jesus Christ there's nothing they could have done that was worse and dumber than this?' well guess what!" Yeah the election's gone from a surprise to an inevitability after articles just keep coming out about how loving terrible that campaign was.
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Al! posted:hell even in cspam people refuse to admit that there were many, many reasons why hillary lost While of course the various external factors are a matter of concern and any future Dem candidate will have to contend with some variation on most of them, none of them were insurmountable had Hillary been a better candidate and if her campaign bothered to do, apparently, anything at all.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:While of course the various external factors are a matter of concern and any future Dem candidate will have to contend with some variation on most of them, none of them were insurmountable had Hillary been a better candidate and if her campaign bothered to do, apparently, anything at all. they mailed me a magnet once
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Bushiz posted:Yeah she is going to emerge from the woods with podesta in tow talking about how losing this year gives them the unique experience needed to defeat the Trump reelection as she has more experience than anyone running against Donald trump, and she is the only choice for 2020. Either that or promising young female Democrats are going to start getting murdered. The only clue is a message scrawled in the victim's blood at every scene; "If I can't be the first female president, no one can!"
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Hillary Clinton lost because the mods closed the USPol thread.
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/13/watch_samantha_bee_dissect_the_democratic_party_s_crisis_of_leadership_video.html Every time somebody posts something about Samantha Bee or John Oliver I'm reminded of that Woody Allen bit Goetta posted a couple of days ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptxkVhDYog8
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loquacius posted:"You don't tell your abuela how to court the electorate!" -- Hillary, upon hearing a suggestion that maybe they should send some people to Michigan Similar to her freaking out about same-sex couples adopting children.
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docbeard posted:In fairness, I do think that one of the smartest things that the economic justice wing of the left could do to get their point across is to start referring to class as an identity. Yeah they need to stop drawing a line between the two as if they're mutually exclusive. It's a pretty tight relationship
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Serf posted:I tried to get a Clinton lawn sign but they were like $25 on her website and jfc I ain't got time for that So in the 08 campaign our motto was that campaign signs don't get votes, but not having them can lose them.
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Did that article just link to another article proclaiming a victory for identity politics because of McCrory losing in North Carolina An election he lost in part due to doubling down on his identity politics focused bathroom bill that cost North Carolina millions of dollars, outraging people who care about the state's economy Do my eyes deceive me
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new kind of cat posted:Yeah they need to stop drawing a line between the two as if they're mutually exclusive. It's a pretty tight relationship Tell that to the ceterists. They're the ones who think corporations are now the bastions for social justice.
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