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theflyingexecutive posted:how would she have generated positive news? I dunno. Held a press conference? Held a few more town halls with people who weren't rich donors? Found ways to communicate her ideas that didn't involve referencing her website or a two minute long wonkfest? Difficult work for a candidate to be sure, but going total recluse mode and spurning the press because of her bad history with them is not how you want to be doing things in a presidential election. Anime Schoolgirl posted:i still don't understand why "intersectionality" never applied to poors in d&d Being poor is an identity white people can claim, and white people are always bad, so its not one they give any thought to. Or, being poor is a choice, and a choice is not an identity. Ed: Balls. Am I doing this right?
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paranoid randroid posted:yeah great theres a disagreement about DNC leadership and the contest is between a guy who is good and a guy who is acceptable. its not like hes pushing Chuck Schumer or something. this is not really indicative of a guy who wants to drag the party backwards.
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Oh Snapple! posted:such selfishness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abYn58KepdM&t=37s
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Obama said on a donor call that he was going to be on the ground fighting against Trump after the inauguration. The guy was a community organizer and all
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Fiction posted:Obama said on a donor call that he was going to be on the ground fighting against Trump after the inauguration. The guy was a community organizer and all he was a community organizer for like2 years lol
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Not a Step posted:Being poor is an identity white people can claim, and white people are always bad, so its not one they give any thought to. also I have heard the latter, great i love it when people apply homophobia logic to class  ps you are doing it right but i like to put ed balls in random places myself
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Fiction posted:Obama said on a donor call that he was going to be on the ground fighting against Trump after the inauguration. The guy was a community organizer and all Will this be the ground at the Andrews golf course or the ground at his Hawaii retirement home
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im skeptical of how much headway Holder and Obamas anti-voter suppression project can make under a Trump administration but im they're at least trying
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CubsWoo posted:Will this be the ground at the Andrews golf course or the ground at his Hawaii retirement home gently caress if i know but he'll probably be useful somehow
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:he was a community organizer for like2 years lol More than you bitch!!!!!
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drat, thats some fake rear end fake news lyin media gently caress them lamo
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Her Policy was poo poo, and her accomplishments were riding coattails. It's funny to me that Hillary didn't want to marry Bill because she thought it was a bad career move, and in some kind of gay black Hitler universe, she's was probably right.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:More than you bitch!!!!! nope!
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:nope! poo poo! (Neat)
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Not a Step posted:I dunno. Held a press conference? She had a fuckton but they didn't get covered very well.
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Popular past Presidents are great but lets remember that both Bill and Barack couldn't drag Hillary across the finish line.
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Bushiz posted:It's funny to me that Hillary didn't want to marry Bill because she thought it was a bad career move, and in some kind of gay black Hitler universe, she's was probably right. Now I'm imagining the parallel universe where lifelong activist lawyer Hillary Rodham runs against Trump. Though I'm thinking more of the other parallel universe where Nobel Peace Prize winner Hillary Clinton and beloved philanthropist Donald J. Trump take one look at our timeline, destroy the Einstein-Rosen Bridge, and vow never to speak of it again.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:poo poo!
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Obama did work for Gamaliel though who are pretty dope
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:he was a community organizer for like2 years lol Wow only two years as an organizer and only eight in his last job? Yeah we need to kick this unqualified clown outta here! Can we just not cannibalize one leader on our side for at least a few years? Can we have just one positive symbolic figure that people can rally around even if he is, in fact, imperfect and sometimes Bad or even Wrong? Or we could burn everything down, I guess.
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There are some very talented leaders in the Democratic Party, but they have been suppressed by the current DNC. Once we get the current leaders pushed to the background, the talented ones will emerge.
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Tiny Deer posted:Can we just not cannibalize one leader on our side for at least a few years? Can we have just one positive symbolic figure that people can rally around even if he is, in fact, imperfect and sometimes Bad or even Wrong? Sure. Bernie Sanders. 
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Tiny Deer posted:Wow only two years as an organizer and only eight in his last job? Yeah we need to kick this unqualified clown outta here! or maybe we can have one president who doesn't get steamrolled his entire presidency because he falsely assumes the GOP will play nice really, uh, makes u think
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showbiz_liz posted:She had a fuckton but they didn't get covered very well. http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/media/clinton-presser/ posted:Hillary Clinton finally holds a press conference
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:or maybe we can have one president who doesn't get steamrolled his entire presidency because he falsely assumes the GOP will play nice We had two! They were FDR and Johnson, and they were dirty as gently caress.
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showbiz_liz posted:She had a fuckton but they didn't get covered very well. Like, actual real press conferences where reporters asked unvetted questions and she gave answers, or staged events where she gave non-answers and constantly referred people to her website? Cause I can see why no one would cover the later.
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Employee Rights Act posted:1. Secret Ballot Elections expected to be one of the first bills introduced this January, also expected to pass 
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Aurubin posted:We had two! They were FDR and Johnson, and they were dirty as gently caress. Please lets have more dirty as gently caress problematic hate machines as President so things get done.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:i think the thread will think much better of him if/when he starts promoting the progressives instead of give indications that he's paranoid about them loving up because they're going to lose the nonexistant reaganite vote is Perez not progressive? There seems to be a lot of anger from some people at him running but really that just turns the race from 'a progressive runs uncontested' to 'two progressive people run for a seat they both can do good in', no one's been actually able to articulate the problem other than he's 'establishment' with no real definition.
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theflyingexecutive posted:I still think the campaign was horribly mismanaged, HOWEVER: clinton has poo poo policies clinton has poo poo accomplishments clinton couldn't hold any large rallies without katy perry headlining because she generates zero enthusiasm for her bland platform clinton spent the campaign attacking trump instead of pushing any progressive platform. clinton's ad buys were overwhelmingly negative. clinton had a way higher proportion of negative attack ads than trump. much of the media coverage of trump was negative
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Segmentation Fault posted:
republicans: "a black man was elected president, so racism is over! that means you're not allowed to talk about race anymore!" democrats: "a black man was elected president, but racism didn't end immediately! that means you're not allowed to talk about race anymore!
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loquacius posted:Sure. Bernie Sanders.  why you gotta mess with me like that, I like Bernie.
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Not a Step posted:Like, actual real press conferences where reporters asked unvetted questions and she gave answers, or staged events where she gave non-answers and constantly referred people to her website? she had a lot of conferences dude, the reason there was 'controversy' was because she did poo poo like have one that was mostly with minority news outlets and we got to hear Very Serious Journalists explain how that's not a REAL press conference without saying 'those people'.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:is Perez not progressive?
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:he is a progressive union guy but his realpolitik positions like being pro-TPP and pro-DAPL are not helpful and promoting compromise is no longer an option in congress these days
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Tatum Girlparts posted:is Perez not progressive? I have said repeatedly that my main objection to Perez is that he hasn't had electoral experience since the Montgomery County Council and a Maryland DA run he was disqualified from. Ellison has been elected with increasing margins and vote shares, is a good fundraiser, and has the correct positions.
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paranoid randroid posted:in retrospect, the real take-away from Bills convention speech is that Hillary really, really should have stuck to her guns in college and told his sketchy rear end to take a freaking hike I legit wouldn't be surprised if this was the decision that ultimately held her back from being president.
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comedyblissoption posted:is it possible to be a progressive union guy and pro-TPP sure, if you're also pro-eating the rich
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:he is a progressive union guy but his realpolitik positions like being pro-TPP and pro-DAPL are not helpful and promoting compromise is no longer an option in congress these days I'll grant he was in a gross squishy place with TPP but what has he said/done about DAPL?
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