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Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Basebf555 posted:

Most people are perfectly capable of seeing a movie and deciding whether or not they personally liked it, and then separately from that, keeping tabs on various reviews out of curiosity about how the public at large is responding to it.

Okay, fair enough. I guess I just don't really find that that interesting. To me it seemed as if some people were coming across like they had some sort of vested interest in the public either liking or not liking the movie, like it's some sort of contest.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Cnut the Great posted:

Okay, fair enough. I guess I just don't really find that that interesting. To me it seemed as if some people were coming across like they had some sort of vested interest in the public either liking or not liking the movie, like it's some sort of contest.

I'm sure you're right, there's going to be some who just root against the movie from the beginning and are hunting around for proof that fits the narrative they want to happen.

Still, this is a new era of Star Wars. Watching it develop and seeing the reaction to each new movie is very interesting to me, even if I'm not a rabid fan the way I used to be.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
Woo, just scored a free iPic premiere showing. Gotta love vendors.

Cautiously optimistic. Is it true that they don't actually play "Sabotage" during the movie?

Forum Joe
Jun 8, 2001

Every day I'm shuffling!

Ask me about Tasmania!

Waffles Inc. posted:

people who have seen it, please tell me whether someone says "I've got a bad feeling about this"

Not directly, but it's played on in a nod to the fans.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Forum Joe posted:

Not directly, but it's played on in a nod to the fans.

Ah, so someone says they "have a good feeling" about something, but they're obviously joking because they're hosed and probably about to die.

Am I close?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Forum Joe posted:

a nod to the fans.

I have a bad feeling about this.

Forum Joe
Jun 8, 2001

Every day I'm shuffling!

Ask me about Tasmania!
Well, I came out of the midnight screening last night in Australia, and I loved it but I'm an old fan of war films. It paid tribute to the classics in that genre in all the right ways. Yes, it's a Star Wars film, so yes it recycles characters, tropes and locations (and the fact that it's a droid that provides the comic relief) but I don't think it does it too much. It's not really like any other Star Wars film we've seen. Way more fighting, more death, more emotion in a way that is only occasionally overplayed. When characters die you actually feel something because you care for them.

The film definitely has its flaws, with plenty of over-explaining of the plot. Those drat CGI characters are just jarring. I really wish they hadn't done that. Every time I see Tarkin it takes me out of the universe and reminds me I'm in a movie. Such a bad idea. Also, the pacing was a little strange in places. But it had heart, feels way less overproduced than TFA and actually paves new ground for a Star Wars film. I give it 4 stars.

Forum Joe fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Dec 14, 2016

Forum Joe
Jun 8, 2001

Every day I'm shuffling!

Ask me about Tasmania!

Basebf555 posted:

Ah, so someone says they "have a good feeling" about something, but they're obviously joking because they're hosed and probably about to die.

Am I close?

Not really.
someone starts to say it but is interrupted before finishing

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.
Saw it, and it was a bit odd. I like Force Awakens characters a lot more, but I enjoyed the story of this one better.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
I thought it was great. Good acting all-around and beautiful to look at. Finale is fantastic. The entire story felt a lot more plausible than TFA (which I liked quite a bit, mind you).

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

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Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.
The biggest positive about the movie, is that I feel like it does nostalgic pandering with a lot more finesse than TFA did. Rather than copying key scenes and story elements from the original with just swapping in new characters, Rogue One seems happier just using the universe you know. It still does the occasional "oh, I saw this 40 years ago" moment, but overall it stands better alone as new addition to the universe.

I especially enjoyed callbacks that were more about replicating some of the style of cinematography from the originals, rather than actual scenes.

My main issues are mostly just some of the characters feeling very flat, in a focus tested sort of way, and some of the CGI stuff is just terrible.

Attestant fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 14, 2016

Forum Joe
Jun 8, 2001

Every day I'm shuffling!

Ask me about Tasmania!

Attestant posted:

Saw it, and it was a bit odd. I like Force Awakens characters a lot more, but I enjoyed the story of this one better.

Yes, definitely. The lead characters are not this film's strongest point.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Now that's what I call a Star War.


I will watch this movie so many times it's going to hurt.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Attestant posted:

I especially enjoyed callbacks that were more about replicating some of the style of cinematography from the originals, rather than actual scenes.

This is good to hear.

SadisTech
Jun 26, 2013

Clem.
Holy crap. I saw this at last night's (Australian) midnight screening, and...

Everybody dies.

Like, EVERYBODY dies. Even the vast majority of the incidental, crowd scene background characters dies. If you don't specifically recognise them from Episode IV, yup, they're a gonner.


... it wasn't what I was expecting from a Disney Star Wars movie.

Enjoyed it immensely, though.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

SadisTech posted:

Holy crap. I saw this at last night's (Australian) midnight screening, and...

Everybody dies.

Like, EVERYBODY dies. Even the vast majority of the incidental, crowd scene background characters dies. If you don't specifically recognise them from Episode IV, yup, they're a gonner.


... it wasn't what I was expecting from a Disney Star Wars movie.

Enjoyed it immensely, though.

That... does not sound like focus grouped pandering lol

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Is it good or bad? Come on now, we have done this before, many times.

It cannot be established whether the movie is bad or not until a couple of things happen ITT. The Marxist/socialist themes must be uncovered and analyzed thoroughly and a verdict must be reached on whether the Empire or the Republic are the bad guys.

We should know by June or July 2017.

Meander
Apr 1, 2010


Saw Rogue One at the midnight screening here in NZ.

It felt a bit different from the other films. I would rate it good, but not as good as TFA. The ending was rather intense and almost brutal, but I didn't feel as attached to the characters as I did with TFA so it wasn't as moving as it might have been.

I will probably go see it again.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

I don't know if the CG was a case of uncanny valley or something but that distracted me a little when it appears, other than that loved the film

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Lampsacus posted:

Now that's what I call a Star War.


I will watch this movie so many times it's going to hurt.

Just out of a midnight screening, And I second this. New star war is best star war

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


Saw it last night, enjoyed it quite a bit. Rewatching tonight in IMAX (two sets of friends got me two different tickets).

Best part of the film are the shots; they're really beautiful in many ways. Very stylish and well thought out, with some modern callbacks to old-timey shots, and the action is loud and clear. Also Donnie Yen and new robot character.

Worst are the CG'd characters. You'll know them when you see them. They look weird and jarring and, to my eye, they were moving at a higher fps than the other characters. Makes the uncanny valley even worse. And one of them appears throughout the film, pulling me out of it consistently.

Overall, I'd say it's worth a watch if you enjoy Star Wars or just action films in general. The story is pretty good, the characters are alright, the action is good and plentiful and well-shot. The tone is quite different from other Star Wars films though, which to me helps in its case.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Best costume I saw at the midnight: Guy dressed as Alderaan, followed by a line of green lasers held by ten guys in a row, followed by a guy dressed as the death star all walking down the street.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Probably the worst shot in the film is (no spoilers) a shuttle craft leaves the death star and the curvature of it (plus the size of the dish) makes it look only about 1 kilometer or so in diameter, or the shuttle is suddenly the size of an ISD. It only lasts about 3 seconds but it looks awful.

Other than that, all is good visually.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
Thought this was absolutely fantastic. Great visuals great story, characters... good enough and as has been said it was something a bit different as a Star Wars film. Will definitely see it again.

Only downside was the CG character. Very obvious and very distracting and just a little weird. The tech is not quite there yet to be used in this fashion. I did think Paul Walker was done well, but this... not a good choice and not strictly necessary either. And yet they were perfectly happy to cast a different lady as Mon Mothma?

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

drunkill posted:

Probably the worst shot in the film is (no spoilers) a shuttle craft leaves the death star and the curvature of it (plus the size of the dish) makes it look only about 1 kilometer or so in diameter, or the shuttle is suddenly the size of an ISD. It only lasts about 3 seconds but it looks awful.

Other than that, all is good visually.

That stuck out to me, too.

One of the CGI characters Tarkin felt noticeably off but also seemed really good at the same time?

I think it was an amazing film and puts TFA to shame. It was everything the old Star Wars fan in me wanted.

Mystery Steve
Nov 9, 2006
Fun Shoe
T-15's are obsolete.

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.

Milky Moor posted:

One of the CGI characters Tarkin felt noticeably off but also seemed really good at the same time?

You could make an entire movie out of characters animated like that, and it'd work fine. But when you put one CGI character like that in a scene with actual actors, it stands out really badly.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
In the Spoilers thread right now, there exists a video that, if you are keen on spoilers, you need to watch.

Nobody knows how long it's going to be available, so head on over there immediately. If you know people who are on the fence about this movie, this clip will change their minds.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Holy gently caress Rogue one was good. Better than Empire good.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Gonz posted:

In the Spoilers thread right now, there exists a video that, if you are keen on spoilers, you need to watch.

Nobody knows how long it's going to be available, so head on over there immediately. If you know people who are on the fence about this movie, this clip will change their minds.

Spoilers just for Rogue One?

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Wandle Cax posted:

Spoilers just for Rogue One?

Yes, specifically for Rogue One.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Gonz posted:

In the Spoilers thread right now, there exists a video that, if you are keen on spoilers, you need to watch.

Nobody knows how long it's going to be available, so head on over there immediately. If you know people who are on the fence about this movie, this clip will change their minds.

Pretty average. I'm less inclined to watch the movie now.

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.
I don't really get why people are so hype about that scene. It was a single decent scene, in a movie with a lot of other good ones too. :shrug:

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Pretty average. I'm less inclined to watch the movie now.

Prequel liker can't recognise something good. News at 11.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Milky Moor posted:

Prequel liker can't recognise something good. News at 11.

One, the prequels are louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.
Two, whenever the prequel discussion isn't on page, all the other posters should be asking, "what about the prequels?"
Three

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Pretty average. I'm less inclined to watch the movie now.

Go see it. Can't stress how good this is compared to other star wars movies.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Milky Moor posted:

Prequel liker can't recognise something good. News at 11.

Rogue One is a prequel. I don't particularly like the prequels, but I appreciate them. Maybe I'll just appreciate Rogue One a bit.


Raged posted:

Go see it. Can't stress how good this is compared to other star wars movies.

Okay, what's good about it? Is it finally a SW movie that approaches the level of The Hidden Fortress?

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Dec 15, 2016

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Raged posted:

Go see it. Can't stress how good this is compared to other star wars movies.
But is it better than Empire?

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Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Rogue One is a prequel. I don't particularly like the prequels, but I appreciate them. Maybe I'll just appreciate Rogue One a bit.


Okay, what's good about it? Is it finally a SW movie that approaches the level of The Hidden Fortress?

What's good about it? It's an fantastically enjoyable Star Wars movie with exciting scenes, and a funny droid.

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