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Skarner: Still a lot of fun.
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Dec 14, 2016 22:39
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Ulio posted:Lol I doubt it I got Morg mid which is terrible if u want to win games. Ok if you just wanna perma push with 0 lane interactions. Yeah I can see how an ungankable champ that can effortlessly push lane and then roam and get a pick with a 50 second root is bad for winning games.
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Dec 14, 2016 22:43
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gonna start banning camille on principle because in 10 games with one they've either fed constantly, been extremely toxic, or both.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:23
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You know I don't often go into a game thinking janna is going to be a really fun to play but when your opposing team is Top: Rammus Jungle: Lee Mid: Zed Bot: Morde and Voli You could say the pick really blew em away
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Dec 14, 2016 23:47
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I got a box off that game and rolled spirit guard udyr which is a dope skin don't get me wrong but jfc it's 2950 orange essence to unlock. That's over 6 disenchants from epic skin shards.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:51
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Kitfox88 posted:gonna start banning camille on principle because in 10 games with one they've either fed constantly, been extremely toxic, or both.
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Dec 15, 2016 00:04
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i'm not high enough level to play ranked yet  normals draft is suffering
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Dec 15, 2016 00:11
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Dec 15, 2016 00:21
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ArbitraryC posted:I got a box off that game and rolled spirit guard udyr which is a dope skin don't get me wrong but jfc it's 2950 orange essence to unlock. That's over 6 disenchants from epic skin shards. Definitely Not Udyr is a much better skin.
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Dec 15, 2016 00:36
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Max Coveri posted:Definitely Not Udyr is a much better skin. Yeah before Definitely Not Udyr it was all about that Spirit Guard. Now Spirit Guard is some useless poo poo.
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Dec 15, 2016 00:38
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Definitely Not Udyr is one of the rare skins I was like "man, they didn't charge more for this?"
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Dec 15, 2016 00:39
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Ulio posted:Lol I doubt it I got Morg mid which is terrible if u want to win games. Ok if you just wanna perma push with 0 lane interactions. morg is a really good ganker, has a good all-in, and is safer than most mids from jungle ganks bc of shield
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Sexpansion posted:I got Jhin mid so it seems that they didn't even account for role. It actually recommended that I start playing Jhin mid. My immediate thought was "uh yeah, no."
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Dec 15, 2016 01:21
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How did I cast E on twisted fate six times this season?
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Dec 15, 2016 02:29
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That's impressive.
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Dec 15, 2016 02:31
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kaschei posted:How did I cast E on twisted fate six times this season? there was a bug and they disabled TF for a bit that this is apparently related to
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Dec 15, 2016 02:33
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Radical posted:there was a bug and they disabled TF for a bit that this is apparently related to Riot's spaghetti code surprises me once again.
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Dec 15, 2016 02:51
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Crazy Larry posted:Yeah I can see how an ungankable champ that can effortlessly push lane and then roam and get a pick with a 50 second root is bad for winning games. Lol u can make urgot sound a god in one sentence it clearly doesn't mean its true. I wonder where all the Morg mids maybe I've seen 2-3 morg mid in last 2 seasons of playing mid mostly. I like the champion but its just not enough dmg compared to other mages. I will say though its pretty good into LB if u can time your e.
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Ulio posted:Lol u can make urgot sound a god in one sentence it clearly doesn't mean its true. I wonder where all the Morg mids maybe I've seen 2-3 morg mid in last 2 seasons of playing mid mostly. on the other hand when was the last time morg had a sub 50% win rate? champions like morgana and annie might not be exciting but i dont think either has literally had a sub 50% win rate mid in literally. literally years.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:02
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Morgana is definitely fine in mid, even if she's rather dull to play. She has solid waveclear with Soil, can set up a gank beautifully if she can land Q pre-6, and her ult gives her some nasty roaming potential (waddle down to bot lane, stand next to the duo, press R, you've won or gotten two free Flashes). The reason that people don't play her mid much is because she's mechanically uninteresting and can't pull off sick plays. She's just consistently good.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:05
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Vermain posted:Morgana is definitely fine in mid, even if she's rather dull to play. She has solid waveclear with Soil, can set up a gank beautifully if she can land Q pre-6, and her ult gives her some nasty roaming potential (waddle down to bot lane, stand next to the duo, press R, you've won or gotten two free Flashes). The reason that people don't play her mid much is because she's mechanically uninteresting and can't pull off sick plays. She's just consistently good. No, but see you're not actually allowed to do anything on Morgana mid except press W and then go wait under your tower.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:10
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Its true these easy champs tend to have high winrates but Annie is different to Morg because I would wager her playrate is a lot higher than Morg among all elos. Even if Morgs winrate is high it is because the ridiculously low pickrate. Meaning its one tricks playing her which leads to better winrates or people pick her in very situational cases. Which is what I think she does well. Good vs certain ap comps or if you want to make it a farm lane mid. Annie is a great champ to climb though because her playstyle works so well in soloq but sucks in competitive. Can playmake even if its simple flash ult and has roaming/diving potential thanks to Tibbers. I guess you can burst people with Morg q w but Annie is really good because its braindead. Just get your stun and throw your bear one shot someone. 1 skill shot and she has poo poo tons of dmg which is why Annie has always been a soloq favorite. I like both just don't think if your grinding soloq Morg is a good option to climb. Just in some matchups, Annie is better but higher you go the less she is good.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:10
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Morg has a wave clear spell that can one shot caster minions at sub 5 ranks with just a dorans ring as well as pretty good itemization since she can take an armor item, an mr item, or a cdr item while in lane and they're all viable. i think she's been pretty underrated for being a strong champ to climb on for awhile now. you are right that she is pretty high up there for average games played by the player base but she has a very high win rate for people with very little experience on her, she's not vlad or anything. edit: seriously being able to clear the casters from infinity far away during lane means you will basically never be bad in lane
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Dec 15, 2016 04:14
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The only downside to choosing Morg to climb is that she's one of the more consistently chosen supports (usually hovering at around 10-11%), so I'd find a backup mid that you're also good with just in case.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:16
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Morgana really seems to fall into the category of "is not bad but there are better people" combined with having a low impact playstyle which means people looking to make sweet LCS big play videos are less interested in her than more involved characters. She is reliable enough and can certainly do well but gets overshadowed.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:21
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Morg is an immobile mage who is more about her crowd control than her burst damage. Her team fight presence isn't press buttons -> delete carry but rather press r -> use hourglass -> rely on teammates. Annie can do crazy burst damage if she's ahead. Morg really doesn't; she has a poo poo load more utility but not as much flash. Crowd control, and the prevention of it, are some of the most underrated abilities in the game. Morg has one of the few "gently caress LITERALLY ALL OF YOUR STUNS" abilities in the game. Black shield is a crazy, crazy powerful ability. However, it's pure utility; it does no damage and can't make big, flashy plays.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:27
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What are you folks playing top lane this patch? Someone sell me on something fun to spam in these super messy early season games.
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Tales of Woe posted:What are you folks playing top lane this patch? Someone sell me on something fun to spam in these super messy early season games. even with courage of the colossus nerfs i find naut to be extremely easy and a lot of fun. his split push is loving atrocious but i usually just go first item zz'rot and just go roam around the map being a huge piece of poo poo
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Try the most powerful naut build, try force dead mans, AKA "DARK HECARIM"
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Vermain posted:Morgana is definitely fine in mid, even if she's rather dull to play. She has solid waveclear with Soil, can set up a gank beautifully if she can land Q pre-6, and her ult gives her some nasty roaming potential (waddle down to bot lane, stand next to the duo, press R, you've won or gotten two free Flashes). The reason that people don't play her mid much is because she's mechanically uninteresting and can't pull off sick plays. She's just consistently good.
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The best Morg play is flash R and NO ONE DOES IT IN MY GAMES also this event is confusing, I miss the "win one game and get an icon"
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Morgana does a lot of damage, just not as much as some mages. If you do your full combo you can apply something like a 200% AP ratio on Q W R. There is also a lot more nuance to her than you might think but that comes with playing her enough. Itemization has never been better on her either, you can easily cap CDR going Morello -> Zhonya's -> Abyssal and then cap off with Deathcap + Void Staff and you can absolutely destroy a squishy with Q + R alone. - Me, the guy that played Morgana the most this year according to Riot edit: Also Morgana is a fantastic flex pick for top as well if your idiot teammate took Zed mid or some garbage. She has one of the best TP ganks in the game.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Morg is an immobile mage who is more about her crowd control than her burst damage. Her team fight presence isn't press buttons -> delete carry but rather press r -> use hourglass -> rely on teammates. her teamfight presence is hit someone when you are sieging or being sieged with q and instantly turn the game into a 4v5.
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This is how I also catch a lot of idiots off guard in solo queue, they assume a level 6 Morgana won't just walk into them, hit R, flash after them and then hit the guaranteed Q + W to just 100-0 them, because "Morgana doesn't do damage" she does damage guys, it's just not all up-front in a literal second like Viktor or Ahri
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Also just hit e on your most fed damage dealer if a tank goes in on them, like of all the weakpoints of morg I think you could talk about the 5v5 is certainly not one of them. I''d say her biggest issue is she's not really a 1 man snowball like some solos, even if you're ahead for the most part all you can do is consistently force your opponent out of lane you're not gonna be the dude who gets first blood off a jungle gank then goes up 4 kills before anyone else has a chance to control their lane.
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Dec 15, 2016 04:57
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the fact that the music gets cutoff during champion select in poroking is weirding me out
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Elentor posted:
Ahahaha if those are your besties you're hanging with a pretty bad crowd
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Elentor posted:
I think that is Riot's way of saying that you're an objectively bad person.
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