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paranoid randroid posted:hes not even talking about loving women in that verse moron The Muppets On PCP posted:ghostwriting on rap songs is really common that's what I was going on Rodatose fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:ghostwriting on rap songs is really common well yeah there rumors about Jay, but its still pretty dumb to just assume ghostwriting. its a pretty big deal when it comes out.
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Rodatose posted:kanye's previous verse about putting pussies in sarcophogi this is what we call a "joke" because the egyptians buried people with cats because hes talking about having sex with pharaohs did you also get mad about his line "keep it 300 like the romans"
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choke a south park writer with a fish stick
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paranoid randroid posted:this is what we call a "joke" perhaps the guy who voted for trump and who defended cosby is, perhaps, at least a little sincere when they "joke"
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"look, it's only a joke," I said to the HR board, regarding my alleged sexual harassment
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You might also call it "locker room talk."
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jesus loving christ dude
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weird hills to die on
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Rodatose posted:kanye has too many "jokes" where the punchline is how forceful they are in sex are you tipper gore? also  if you only find mbdtf rapey the point and artistic thrust of that album you
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Well this conversation got dumb. There are tacos in the food fridge. Not much but they're tacos. Also cookies, a tub of limes, and a thing of cilantro. I was told by the swing shift person to finish both cilantro and limes.
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stone cold posted:the point and artistic thrust of that album quote:insert that quote from Jarhead about anti-war movies being actually pro-war here
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yeah I guess art is basically a fake idea if youre dumb as poo poo
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paranoid randroid posted:yeah I guess art is basically a fake idea if youre dumb as poo poo a lot of people are dumb as poo poo
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But jarhead is also art Me am confuse
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paranoid randroid posted:yeah I guess art is basically a fake idea if youre dumb as poo poo you don't get to be subtle if you have a mass audience unfortunately the way people engage with art is they naturally sympathize with a protagonist they're following based on how they're first revealed, and then if there's a twist or less favorable subtext that's gotten through further reading, only some of the people will reevaluate their overall perceptions. tyler durden is looked on favorably as a cool edgy antihero by lots of people even though the point of fight club is that that kind of machismo is self-destructive and to be avoided. however, it's not revealed until late on so a person who doesn't think about it too much might come away with a positive impression since they had positive feelings toward them for most of the movie. if you want to prevent that you have to basically say "this is bad!" right off the bat which dulls the entertainment value. Rodatose fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Rodatose posted:you don't get to be subtle if you have a mass audience unfortunately  it's pretty funny you kvetch about Kanye when palahniuk has an intense seething hatred for women. it's almost as funny as you bemoan audience stupidity while wholesale failing to get Kanye at all. pick up chuck's newest book or don't
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Mustached Demon posted:Well this conversation got dumb. Your mistake was not bringing tequila
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I didn't like fight club
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Hollismason posted:Your mistake was not bringing tequila Does denatured ethanol work? Same thing if both end in me vomiting, right?
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wait, tyler durden was bad?
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rorshach is also bad, and lolita is about how the narrator is a piece of poo poo those are the two other big examples i can remember
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my favorite chuck palahniuk character is the rape victim that hates trans women and then sexually assaults her with her fellow survivors makes you think whole lotta subtext
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Rodatose posted:rorshach is also bad, and lolita is about how the narrator is a piece of poo poo John Gardner's Grendel is not meant to be a role model
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Gin and Juche posted:Considering that every model, poll, and conventional wisdom has said it was a lock for the better part of a year I'm not sure I can blame them tbh. all those polls, models, etc. made the reasonable assumption that she'd campaign for votes
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paranoid randroid posted:yeah I guess art is basically a fake idea if youre dumb as poo poo Cease to Hope posted:a lot of people are dumb as poo poo poo poo! I guess I'm actually wasting my life after all
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merry exmarx posted:all those polls, models, etc. made the reasonable assumption that she'd campaign for votes And theoretically she didn't at least in part to the favorable polls
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stone cold posted:my favorite chuck palahniuk character is the rape victim that hates trans women can someone who embraces a male gender role ever divorce themselves enough from the aggressive aspects of that role enough to Make Art that has a beneficial effect on gender relations? a lot of female writers and readers complain of how a male writing a "strong female" will end up creating someone who is physically female but has stereotypical male behaviors and biases. even writing about the downsides of machismo/power for males keeps focus and sympathy on the oppressor.
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Rodatose posted:can someone who embraces a male gender role ever divorce themselves enough from the aggressive aspects of that role enough to Make Art that has a beneficial effect on gender relations? i really thought palahniuk's book, beautiful you had great meaning for gender relations i also thought his book pygmy was a boon to the East Asian community
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nice, nice, this delusional mccarthyist stuff won't lead to anything ba- https://twitter.com/cdenizok/status/809090917617594368
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stone cold posted:i really thought palahniuk's book, beautiful you had great meaning for gender relations i didn't read any more chunk palaniuk after fight club because it was bad, and expected other books to be bad
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merry exmarx posted:nice, nice, this delusional mccarthyist stuff won't lead to anything ba- we're Migrant Sex Attacks and this is a song about a whale!
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Rodatose posted:i didn't read any more chunk palaniuk after fight club because it was bad, and expected other books to be bad that's kind of a shame because you are the platonic ideal of a palahniuk fan
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stone cold posted:that's kind of a shame because you are the platonic ideal of a palahniuk fan yeah, me the person who is bemoaning machismo and sexual violence
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Rodatose posted:yeah, me the person who is bemoaning machismo and sexual violence would you like a medal for the lowest effort feminism Rodatose posted:kanye west is bad i'm glad you refuse to acknowledge the weird race dynamics you have going on, particularly when you referred to kanye as having "middle class frustration with women" e: Rodatose posted:you don't get to be subtle if you have a mass audience unfortunately bemoaning machismo, while praising fight club?
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