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PantsBandit posted:You know what was awesome? The dude in wind waker who taught you sword fighting. At first he just gives you the basics of how to fight but you go back to him occasionally over the course of the game and every time the battles get more tense and exciting and he starts giving you knight's crests because he respects your warrior spirit and drive. Then you finally beat him for the last time and it feels like your relationship with him is super strong despite him being mostly a training bag. Orca for hyrule warriors 3 please
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I said come in! posted:I still don't understand what it is that is making MOBA's successful in the first place. What do people love about them? I don't understand League of Legends and its appeal. How is something so complex and with such a steep learning curve so popular? This isn't the whole story but here are a few good reasons: 
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In Training posted:I do that with fighting games where the matches last 60 seconds instead of an hour Different kinds of games. Different strokes. Some people are good at crazy fast on-the-fly thinking and muscle memory required for combo memorization and counters in fighting games. Some people prefer learning a specific role and working as part of a team as part of a longer, more management/rts-style war game, some people prefer just racing each other to see who can complete a game the fastest, and some people prefer games where the goal is to just get the most kills with whatever gun you have.
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PantsBandit posted:You know what was awesome? The dude in wind waker who taught you sword fighting. At first he just gives you the basics of how to fight but you go back to him occasionally over the course of the game and every time the battles get more tense and exciting and he starts giving you knight's crests because he respects your warrior spirit and drive. Then you finally beat him for the last time and it feels like your relationship with him is super strong despite him being mostly a training bag. Yeah, that dude owns. It was so satisfying beating his final challenge, hitting him 999 times without getting hit 3 times.
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Palpek posted:Because I don't play mobas, I dont really care how many they develop and release or how popular they are, I'm like outside the circle of interest on this. The only moba information I find interesting is when some new superexpensive moba fails while breaking another record for how short-lived a game can be and it's always amusing to read about that. Like when Infinite Crisis with the entire DC Universe brand power behind it was closed down after less than 6 months. I also don't play mobas, but it's interesting to me that basically everytime a new one comes out some friends of mine will try and play it, and will persevere for weeks as the rest of us get bored and drop off and then eventually they'll quit too because the real MOBA was the friendships we made along the way.
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FirstAidKite posted:It will also let you play as error, agahnim, sahasrahla, chris houlihan, blind, syrup, kaepora gaebora, the shopkeeper that kills you, will wright, saria, nabooru, twinrova, malon, anju, happy mask salesman, dampe, sakon, pierre, mikau, majora, the toilet hand, kamaro, kafei, darmani, keaton, guru-guru, igos du ikana, veran, ralph, fat impa, nayru, farore, din, rosa, onox, maple, ricky, moosh, dimitri, vaati, makar, beedle, ezlo, mutoh, malo, telma, yeta, postman, linebeck, jolene, chancellor cole, alfonzo, byrne, hilda, ravio, yuga, princess styla, sir combsly, gwonam, king harkinian, gaspra, pinkle, and barkle I can't believe my hyrule warriors 3 wishlist didn't have orca in it...wtf....
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Cavelcade posted:I also don't play mobas, but it's interesting to me that basically everytime a new one comes out some friends of mine will try and play it, and will persevere for weeks as the rest of us get bored and drop off and then eventually they'll quit too because the real MOBA was the friendships we made along the way. ive started doing this and its much better than stressing over losing mmr or w/e FirstAidKite posted:Different kinds of games. Different strokes. fwiw i stopped playing mobas to play fighting games more and i think im better for it it was much more satisfying to learn how to fadc combo with dudley in a live match vs. a huge five man ult or whatever for me
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I also feel like I can have more fun playing a moba casually than I can a fighting game where I don't have to worry about being good at inputs and my friends and I can all be on one team working together instead of just fighting 1 on 1 vs matches. Basically, fighting games and mobas are entirely separate things and I don't think it is fair to compare the two since they're so completely different in more or less every way except being multiplayer-oriented video games featuring large casts of unique characters with large communities dedicated to professional play.
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FirstAidKite posted:I can't believe my hyrule warriors 3 wishlist didn't have orca in it...wtf.... Well you got Ravio and Yuga at least  (and Majora if Skull Kid counts)
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Dec 15, 2016 17:01
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I stopped playing mobas to get a graduate degree and become employable
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Dec 15, 2016 17:07
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playing mobas to get a graduate degree doesn't seem plausible to begin with
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Dec 15, 2016 17:17
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I have a doctorate in pwning noobs
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Dec 15, 2016 17:19
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How many Dr. Video Games do we have left? 
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Dec 15, 2016 17:24
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I have this idea for a Nintendo moba featuring characters like Mario, Luigi, Waluigi, John Cena, and Tony Hawk
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Ostentatious posted:I have this idea for a Nintendo moba featuring characters like Mario, Luigi, Waluigi, John Cena, and Tony Hawk Tony Hawk is investing all his funds into finding the fabled fountain of youth, so he can still have a body that's able to do sick tricks and collect video tapes without giving out.
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Dec 15, 2016 17:33
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:Well you got Ravio and Yuga at least Nah when I say Majora I mean like, straight up gimme Majora's Wrath. I wanna be the buff mask monster.with the whips and the lashing. 
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Dec 15, 2016 17:50
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when talking about mobas with people who don't know about them, it's always fun to mention the chinese league of legends knockoff that stars such original Chinese characters as Shrek, Naruto, Ultraman, Illidan Stormrage, WALL-E, and many more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoOEaeHpejE&hd=1
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Dec 15, 2016 18:04
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Captain Invictus posted:when talking about mobas with people who don't know about them, it's always fun to mention the chinese league of legends knockoff that stars such original Chinese characters as Shrek, Naruto, Ultraman, Illidan Stormrage, WALL-E, and many more TBH that also seems like a good thing to mention to people who know about mobas.
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nice ta-tas
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you ever hear of the warcraft 3 knockoff, Dota 2
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oddium posted:you ever hear of the warcraft 3 knockoff, Dota 2 didn't famous electronic music maker Dead Mouse make a song about it?
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Dec 15, 2016 18:37
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Why is that Vault Dweller about to gently caress a horse?
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They're just two bros taking a bath together nothing sexual here
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Dec 15, 2016 18:42
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No, sir ... I don't like it.
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I said come in! posted:I still don't understand what it is that is making MOBA's successful in the first place. What do people love about them? I don't understand League of Legends and its appeal. How is something so complex and with such a steep learning curve so popular? It ticks a whole bunch of boxes for all kinds of different things all at once. Skill based action! But also watch RPG numbers go up! Team based multiplayer! Strategy! Do good and you get to feel more powerful than everyone else! Tons of characters! It's impressive how many different hooks they have and it's extremely satisfying when all those elements come together and on top of that they're free. I know it's uncool to like MOBAs but they're actually incredibly good as long as you remember the golden rule of mute all the pub players so you don't have to listen to dumb bullshit.
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Mobas contain too much waiting and boredom, and what I get out of them I could just as well get out of Diablo or a musou game with far less waiting and frustration and microtransactions.
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Ostentatious posted:didn't famous electronic music maker Dead Mouse make a song about it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTsaS1Tm-Ic
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chumbler posted:Mobas contain too much waiting and boredom, and what I get out of them I could just as well get out of Diablo or a musou game with far less waiting and frustration and microtransactions. Those games don't offer what you'd get out of a moba at all?
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Would like to see a dynasty warriors moba tho
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MMF Freeway posted:Those games don't offer what you'd get out of a moba at all? Yeah, for example when you're playing a single player game you don't have to deal with screaming children or adults who act like children
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Multiplayer is good.
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Why go on an internet forum and listen to people whine about how you're playing it wrong when you could skip the middleman and listen to it ingame!
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MMF Freeway posted:Would like to see a dynasty warriors moba tho it basically is one
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I recently got around to playing Read-Only Memories. hosed up most of the minigames, so I got ending 2. I feel really bad about how it turned out, so I want to play it again when the patch with the voice acting comes out. Also, I really love Oliver and
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Mikedawson posted:I recently got around to playing Read-Only Memories. hosed up most of the minigames, so I got ending 2. I feel really bad about how it turned out, so I want to play it again when the patch with the voice acting comes out. I haven't finished it but I know I goofed on the minigame where you had to control the traffic lights. I didn't quite understand the rules. So there are multiple endings and they are attached to how well you do the minigames, huh? Crumbs.
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SSX Linky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_L-x8YvSLs
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corn in the bible posted:it basically is one I'll bite, how?
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I don't like mobas but I do like tower defense games so I'm glad that the RTS genre split in two the way it did.Mikedawson posted:Read-Only Memories...the patch with the voice acting comes out. I had no idea this was a thing, I wonder how many gigabytes it's gong to take just for all of the the insufferable smug robot sidekick's dialogue 
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I played probably 200 hours of Dota back when it was still a WC3 custom map. The main appeal to mobas is that it is a team objective game but instead of being a first person shooter, you control your dude like a Warcraft 3 hero and level them up like an RPG and get them equipment. And there are like a hundred of them each with their own abilities and all the abilities look neat. And then you get into some big dumb argument with your friends and no one talks to each other for months because of "laning" or "jungling" or some stupid poo poo no sane person should get into a fight with their friends about.
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