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The book came out over ten years ago, but yeah it does seem like there's lot more stuff in the media about it this year. It's incredibly creepy both on the surface and when you think about the implications.
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Memento posted:The book came out over ten years ago, but yeah it does seem like there's lot more stuff in the media about it this year. The Simpsons did a creepy take on it last week.
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Dec 14, 2016 01:24
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It was a float in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade a few years ago. I don't know why I hate the whole idea of it so, but I do.
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Dec 14, 2016 02:14
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Has Pink Floyd ever recorded a song that would be considered happy or upbeat?
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Dec 14, 2016 02:33
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Mister Kingdom posted:Has Pink Floyd ever recorded a song that would be considered happy or upbeat? Time to plug one of my favorite underappreciated Floyd albums: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWhOd0ENVS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPSb5QjgjAc I guess the lyrics of Free Four might disqualify it. v Edit: Yeah most songs on The Piper at the Gates of Dawn are pretty upbeat and folky. Pink Floyd was a different band before Waters took most creative control and stuffed their music with depressing lyrics alluding to his dad dying in the War. 
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Dec 14, 2016 02:37
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Mister Kingdom posted:Has Pink Floyd ever recorded a song that would be considered happy or upbeat? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmW17QvUhRM
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Mister Kingdom posted:Has Pink Floyd ever recorded a song that would be considered happy or upbeat? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5uuhkS4j8
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Dec 14, 2016 02:47
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I have pretty sensitive eyes I guess? Basically in a cool breeze it probably looks like I'm crying, especially in winter. My eyes just water uncontrollably if the wind is in them when it's cold. Any particular glasses or anything I can wear to help cut this down? Sunglasses help but not completely. Squash glasses or something? Ski goggles? I don't know - don't want to look completely silly but want something to help
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Dec 14, 2016 05:30
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Get a good pair of good looking safety glasses/sunglasses. The sidewalls should help a lot.
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Dec 14, 2016 06:23
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Look for fishing sunglasses. They usually have a bit more coverage then fashion glasses and tend to look better then straight up safety glasses.
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Dec 14, 2016 15:01
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photomikey posted:It was a float in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade a few years ago. Sending kids the message "You are being constantly surveilled" is creepy as hell and an unfortunate approach to the holiday season, that's why. (And, I think, to parenting, but  )
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Dec 14, 2016 18:58
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Dogfish posted:Sending kids the message "You are being constantly surveilled" is creepy as hell and an unfortunate approach to the holiday season, that's why. I'm no Elf on the Shelf apologist but isn't this the basic message of the whole Santa mythology as its told to children in the first place? "he knows if you've been bad or good" "he's making a list", etc. not to mention the whole "there's an omniscient God watching your every move and if you don't do what He says, it's eternal torture" thing
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Dec 14, 2016 19:01
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Would Cain have killed Able if there was an elf watching?
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Foucalt's The Santapticon
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Dogfish posted:Sending kids the message "You are being constantly surveilled" is creepy as hell and an unfortunate approach to the holiday season, that's why. (And, I think, to parenting, but
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Dec 14, 2016 22:45
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Dogfish posted:Sending kids the message "You are being constantly surveilled" is creepy as hell and an unfortunate approach to the holiday season, that's why. (And, I think, to parenting, but
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Earwicker posted:I'm no Elf on the Shelf apologist but isn't this the basic message of the whole Santa mythology as its told to children in the first place? "he knows if you've been bad or good" "he's making a list", etc. I also think there's some creepy as hell stuff around Santa, especially the non-North American Santa equivalents. (Oh, Sinterklaas is going to take the bad little children to Spain and turn them into cookies that the good children can eat? That seems fine and not horrifying.) I do, however, think there's an extra layer of unfortunateness between "Santa will know if you belong on the naughty list or the nice list" (and also "God is everywhere and knows if you sin") and meticulously moving and posing a toy every night to make it appear, in a tangible way, as though it's alive and watching your child. Little kids don't do abstraction very well, so there's a very real difference between "Santa knows stuff" and "this toy, who is alive, is actively watching you." In fairness, I wasn't raised to believe that either Santa or God was real, and when my kid gets old enough to care I certainly don't plan to tell him either one is the case, so maybe it's just that I'm not acclimatized to it. edit: I'm not saying no kids should believe in Santa or God, because that's not how I feel. I do think there are redeeming elements to both a belief in Santa and a belief in God that the Elf of the Shelf lacks. Dogfish fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Dec 14, 2016 23:06
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Dogfish posted:I do, however, think there's an extra layer of unfortunateness between "Santa will know if you belong on the naughty list or the nice list" (and also "God is everywhere and knows if you sin") and meticulously moving and posing a toy every night to make it appear, in a tangible way, as though it's alive and watching your child. wait what? I thought it was just a decoration that you put on a shelf, with a bunch of fake "tradition" behind it. I didn't realize people tried to make their kids think it was actually alive.
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bongwizzard posted:Would Cain have killed Able if there was an elf watching? Depends on what presents were on the line.
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Mak0rz posted:Time to plug one of my favorite underappreciated Floyd albums: Thanks (to all). I just never thought of them doing anything other than creating "Albums to Commit Suicide By".
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Trapick posted:We're all being constantly surveilled, wake up sheeple! It's not exactly untrue
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Earwicker posted:wait what? I thought it was just a decoration that you put on a shelf, with a bunch of fake "tradition" behind it. I didn't realize people tried to make their kids think it was actually alive. Yeah, that's the point - you move it each night so the kid thinks it's alive. And the kid's not allowed to touch the elf because its magic will disappear. It's pretty hosed up.
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Dogfish posted:I also think there's some creepy as hell stuff around Santa, especially the non-North American Santa equivalents. (Oh, Sinterklaas is going to take the bad little children to Spain and turn them into cookies that the good children can eat? That seems fine and not horrifying.) Have you ever read the original versions of most European fairy tales? They are gory and sadistic and cruel as gently caress. The versions we're familiar with today are sanitised and prettified to fit in with modern expectations of what is acceptable for children. This HuffPo article talks about them. Also here's some translations of original versions Helith fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Many of them seem to be to be actually scarier untranslated than translated - I found Grimm's much, er, grimmer in German than in any English version I've ever read. Something seems to get lost in translation. I think it's less that today's versions are "sanitized" and more that a story about a severed finger chasing a robber bridegroom around is more jarring when you live in the current era and don't see death everywhere all the time, so it makes less sense to tell to little children. Reams could be (and have been) written about how the emerging idealized idea of childhood affected the mythologies we are and aren't willing to share with small people, but I also think that it's just a matter of what resonates with one's daily experience. If you've had several siblings and maybe a parent die, a gruesome story isn't so shocking. If the scariest thing you've ever seen is a dead raccoon by the side of the road, a story about roasting to death the witch who's kidnapped you is a lot more shocking.
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There was also probably a bit of variance involved in the actual story telling. One family might only tell their kids a simpler and less violent version of a story similar to a lot of modern versions, another family might go full gore, and a third family might tell their younger kids the lighter versions and their older kids the gory versions.
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Also they weren't strictly children's stories originally either.
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Ariel never got her legs but you can see her in Copenhagen bay, the little match girl died (thanks again Hans) Cinderella's stepmother died from dancing in hot shoes. The less said about Pocahontas the better. And Jack, well, don't tell your kids the Jack stories.
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fishmech posted:There was also probably a bit of variance involved in the actual story telling. One family might only tell their kids a simpler and less violent version of a story similar to a lot of modern versions, another family might go full gore, and a third family might tell their younger kids the lighter versions and their older kids the gory versions. The old timey version of parents that let their kids watch HBO whenever vs the ones that just keep a few veggie tales DVDs around. Guess who's house everyone wants to go to for sleepovers?
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Since Christmas is coming up. Does anybody have suggestions for what to buy a 5 a year old girl that already has everything, within a reasonable price range. Difficulty: No Barbies or Legos allowed. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Dec 15, 2016 14:48
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My wife and I are buying a home and closing on December 30th. Our first mortgage payment won't be due until February 1. Are there any forms or information I will need to include or review when I file my 2016 taxes, even though we haven't made any payments yet?
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Assuming the death penalty is OK (let's not get into that), why aren't people simply executed with a massive overdose of the compounds used in general anesthesia? I see that anesthesia is almost always used in lethal injections, but I also see procurement problems of the actually "lethal" chemicals. Essentially, why not just go full GA and not act?
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thrakkorzog posted:
What kind of cruel parents does this child have? A 5 year old girl can be hard to buy for because they change their minds so quick at that age as to what is "cool" and not. Something educational but still fun maybe? Something like this perhaps? Though that may be too advanced for a 5 year old still. But could be great for something a parent can do together with the child.
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Dec 15, 2016 16:38
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baquerd posted:Assuming the death penalty is OK (let's not get into that), why aren't people simply executed with a massive overdose of the compounds used in general anesthesia? I see that anesthesia is almost always used in lethal injections, but I also see procurement problems of the actually "lethal" chemicals. Essentially, why not just go full GA and not act? The idea with the current set of drugs they use is that it should kill the person a lot faster than waiting for a general anesthesia overdose to take effect. There's also that most of the states still doing lethal injection are pretty stubborn. If a state really cared about just killing someone the quickest and safest way, they'd all be using sealed chambers that you pump full of inert gas. It basically kills very quick with 0 pain, and you don't need to rely on medical suppliers to get access to argon and nitrogen.
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thrakkorzog posted:Since Christmas is coming up. Does anybody have suggestions for what to buy a 5 a year old girl that already has everything, within a reasonable price range. See if anything at FatBrainToys.com or Seedling.com appeals to you. They are good about specifying age ranges for their products. Most toy stores carry the plastic animal figurines by Schleich, which are beloved by little girls of my acquaintance and are very good quality. The Audobon Society makes (licenses, I suppose) these cute stuffed birds that play recordings of their songs when you press their stomachs. If you want to go with books, anything by Mo Willems is good. The Pigeon series is popular with that age. The Olivia books (forget the author; Olivia is a very headstrong pig) are widely beloved.
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baquerd posted:Assuming the death penalty is OK (let's not get into that), why aren't people simply executed with a massive overdose of the compounds used in general anesthesia? I see that anesthesia is almost always used in lethal injections, but I also see procurement problems of the actually "lethal" chemicals. Essentially, why not just go full GA and not act? Major drug companies prohibit the use of their products in executions and there are export restrictions on drugs used for execution, so there's great reluctance to use medications that are essential to patient care because of the risk of disrupting the supply chain. Missouri was planning to use propofol in its executions, but changed its mind after the US's largest supplier of the drug issued a warning that doing so might trigger export sanctions that would mean the drug wasn't available for legitimate medical use. People also have unpredictable adverse reactions to anaesthetics and particularly to overdoses. It would be a bit rough if you intended to painlessly kill someone and instead ended up with someone hallucinating and vomiting uncontrollably while not being dead. It can take a long time for them to die, too: up to a couple of hours for someone to die from, say, a barbiturate overdose, which is unappealing for obvious reasons. edit: I looked it up, and apparently some states like Georgia and Missouri do use a large dose of a single drug now. I couldn't find out more information; many states now zealously guard the secret of who supplies them with their lethal injection drugs. second edit: The more I read, the crazier it gets. Because of drug shortages, apparently some states have passed legislation governing what to do if you can't get lethal injection drugs but you have someone who needs to be executed. Oklahoma now allows for inhalation of nitrogen gas (painless and effective), but Utah went in the opposite direction and legislated a FIRING SQUAD as their plan B. Dogfish fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Yeah, capital punishment is generally regarded as barbaric by the places that produce the drugs used in capital punishment so a lot of shady practices go into getting the drugs. If any of the legitimate suppliers find out what their drugs are being used for, they basically start an embargo. There was a great More Perfect episode about this a couple of months ago. I really recommend it if you're at all interested.
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I'm super interested now, and will check out that link. Thanks!
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Do people in Gibraltar or the Falklands have an accent or use now-archaic British phrases?
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I was in the Falklands for two weeks in late 1999 and the locals were basically "rural Englishman" accent to me. I mostly spent time with soldiers though, and they just had whatever English accent they grew up with. Gibraltar is a tourist hub and gets more than ten million visitors a year, so I doubt very much they speak in any way archaic.
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Can anyone explain the meme 'hosed up tiny horse'? I have seen it around the forums and tried googling the phrase but didn't find anything useful.
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