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Still don't know the origin of red and mad and nude. Little help here? (it's me isn't it?)Sushi in Yiddish posted:Man I think these genius annotations are one of my favorite new internet things, sort of MST3k for utter poo poo articles/twitter meltdowns What's this one from? deadpan posted:That game theory twitter meltdown was one of the most GBS things I've read in ages and it's great Genius allows people to make FYAD mock threads on the fly. Link? Also saw this on Daily Kos  http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/3/1590834/-I-stopped-worrying-today
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Link? http://genius.com/a/eric-garland-s-tweet-tsunami-about-russian-influence-on-the-election
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Gaspar Lewis posted:...you realize the point was just charting the trends and policies that led to the state we're in, not that they were somehow orchestrated as part of a singular design... right? pretty much. there is a difference between a priori "there is a global conspiracy of bankers and bilderbergs and I will find information to support it" and what Curtis did, which is building a thesis from facts that are collected "The world seems to be in a bad place. Why is that?" followed by "Here are events and trends that I believe contributed, and here is my analysis of these things". edit: I do think it is important to take Curtis with a grain of salt, but I also think his documentaries are much better sourced then most agitator documentarians Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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My takeaway is that the world we live in is so complex and interconnected that even the people who are ostensibly 'in the know' have very little understanding of much of anything; that is, that actions taken for straightforward A--->B reasons can have thousands of consequences we can never predict or even fathom. This is bad because the facade of our sort of post-history society is built upon a slavish devotion to technocracy, and data. More than anything else, Curtis highlights how unpredictable and straight up insane human beings can be when placed into positions of tension, or when their logic fails. This isn't a new idea, really, but Curtis does a good job explaining it and showing it via analysis of history. I like Cormac McCarthy's take on it better, myself: “The truth about the world, he said, is that anything is possible. Had you not seen it all from birth and thereby bled it of its strangeness it would appear to you for what it is, a hat trick in a medicine show, a fevered dream, a trance bepopulate with chimeras having neither analogue nor precedent, an itinerant carnival, a migratory tentshow whose ultimate destination after many a pitch in many a mudded field is unspeakable and calamitous beyond reckoning. The universe is no narrow thing and the order within it is not constrained by any latitude in its conception to repeat what exists in one part in any other part. Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way. For existence has its own order and that no man's mind can compass, that mind itself being but a fact among others.”
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Ron Jeremy posted:I went and watched that Adam Curtis documentary like the good gray wolf I am and man was it some hot garbage. I had seen one of his earlier ones and I remembered it as being along the lines of loose change or other 9/11 truth poo poo. When I heard the Adam Curtis cold open to chapo a while back I assumed they were mocking him. And I honestly enjoy watching conspiracy poo poo going back to when i read illuminatus! back in high school. I heard the interview on chapo and he seemed like a reasonable not-crazy person. How he could have put that documentary together i do t understand. Adam Curtiss for the most part just rants without any point or direction, and uses images and music to give his diatribes an illusion of poignancy. He is only popular because he uses the right words that people on the left like, and you can basically turn off your brain and just let the wave of vaguely sympathetic gibberish hit you and give you a feeling that there are people who feel the same as you, maaan.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Still don't know the origin of red and mad and nude. Little help here? (it's me isn't it?)  ... and it quickly inspired the world: https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/614456344599334913 https://twitter.com/serious_account/status/667932675844538368 , etc.
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steinrokkan posted:Adam Curtiss for the most part just rants without any point or direction, and uses images and music to give his diatribes an illusion of poignancy. He is only popular because he uses the right words that people on the left like, and you can basically turn off your brain and just let the wave of vaguely sympathetic gibberish hit you and give you a feeling that there are people who feel the same as you, maaan. That's what I heard of him beforehand from people I trust. He'd figured out how to hit all the right spots in our lizard brain and we associate the incessant flashing images and music with pseudo-intellectual gibberish to fool us into thinking we've learned something. Despite that I think he seemed to have some kind of vague point when he was on the podcast, but it didn't really go anywhere or it completely flew over my head. He just kept talking about how "everyone knows something is wrong but can't put their finger on it" and that's what people thought in the USSR before it fell so  . IDK I guess it's cool they had someone big on the show but maybe next time get someone who has something to say.
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Gaspar Lewis posted:...you realize the point was just charting the trends and policies that led to the state we're in, not that they were somehow orchestrated as part of a singular design... right? you may have noticed that some posters itt (in this thread) are not particularly good at nuance
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steinrokkan posted:Adam Curtiss for the most part just rants without any point or direction, and uses images and music to give his diatribes an illusion of poignancy. He is only popular because he uses the right words that people on the left like, and you can basically turn off your brain and just let the wave of vaguely sympathetic gibberish hit you and give you a feeling that there are people who feel the same as you, maaan. observe how the primitive slavic mind is befuddled by complexity
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"What if, like, everything was connected, duuuude" - Jeremy Smith, greatest philosopher of 21st century
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Is HyperNormalisation really that disliked? I've never watched any of Adam Curtis's other films, but I thought it was a pretty fantastic doc and that Chapo interview was one of their best episodes yet. I keep returning to his closing comments when they asked him what real change might look like, it was real stirring. I'm definitely hoping to get a screening & discussion setup through our local DSA chapter soon!
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Odobenidae posted:That's what I heard of him beforehand from people I trust. He'd figured out how to hit all the right spots in our lizard brain and we associate the incessant flashing images and music with pseudo-intellectual gibberish to fool us into thinking we've learned something. It felt like the point, as you said, was that everyone can tell something is wrong, we're ALL feeling it, and trying to figure out collectively what to do about it (guillotine) is the path forward? I think a lot of us are better able to articulate why that feels weird and recognize that others find it weird too but there are probably many many more that think feeling that way is the exception and not the rule and this is normal or progress or "disruption" or whatever and don't bring it up. Teabag Dome Scandal fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Curtis docs are provocative entertainment, and I think people are right to be critical of them. Writing them off completely is a bit harsh though. Also, Chapo broke Patton. https://twitter.com/twitersgoodboy/status/809271588377993216
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steinrokkan posted:Adam Curtiss for the most part just rants without any point or direction, and uses images and music to give his diatribes an illusion of poignancy. He is only popular because he uses the right words that people on the left like, and you can basically turn off your brain and just let the wave of vaguely sympathetic gibberish hit you and give you a feeling that there are people who feel the same as you, maaan. I think I would have enjoyed it more had I been stoned. I liked the disaster movie montage with "Dream Baby Dream" played over it. I'm scanning over it again for my favorite part which was another montage that has Jane Fonda doing aerobics with the overlay saying something I found amusing.
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curtis's abstract "we're so totally hosed" tone is kinda perfect as a reaction to global media control imo
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brb changing the cover pic on my fb meme page
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Atrocious Joe posted:Curtis docs are provocative entertainment, and I think people are right to be critical of them. Writing them off completely is a bit harsh though. now he'll never pass the purity tests
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I've also never seen any of Curtis' other films but I thought HyperNormalisation was pretty good, a little scatterbrained, but good. He lost me a little bit with the "Zone" stuff but all of his points seemed plausible. There was no mention of The Bilderberg Group Presents: The Shadowy Globalist Cabal LIVE either which is a plus. It never crossed over into tin foil hat stuff.
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patton... buddy... rethink this
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my only real complaint about the documentary is the interview basically served as a summary of all his arguments to the point watching it was more or less redundant
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The Muppets On PCP posted:my only real complaint about the documentary is the interview basically served as a summary of all his arguments to the point watching it was more or less redundant He finds some great footage though and is very talented at scoring it with his 30 favourite songs
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o my https://twitter.com/KaryinBrooklyn/status/809402336972046336
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Thanks. Ive got two articles from the nude republic. This first one destroys/eviscerates/(insert buzzword here) pop culture liberalism. https://newrepublic.com/article/139279/year-faux-protests And I don't quite know what to make of this next one, it's got some interesting historical context but Jeet sort of white knights the CIA in the process. https://newrepublic.com/article/139348/trumps-war-cia-deep-right-wing-roots
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Another angle. Holy poo poo I hope they have more of this https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/809524486231957504
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The Muppets On PCP posted:my only real complaint about the documentary is the interview basically served as a summary of all his arguments to the point watching it was more or less redundant I had double this problem as a good chunk of the documentary is a rehash of the short film he did for Charlie Brooker in 2014. I'll give him credit for being even more correct now I suppose.
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What was the episode where they played Ben Shapiro "breaking down" a (c)rap song? I think it was an earlier one
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The Irish Times understands the horrors of family court.quote:Much of US political humour is delivered by people whose comedic tastes lie somewhere Dilbert cartoons and Greek puns. Chapo, on the other hand, treats the US political system like a hated ex-husband, attacking it with the bristling hatred of a first wife determined to get everything off him but the dog kennel.
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GNU Order posted:What was the episode where they played Ben Shapiro "breaking down" a (c)rap song? I think it was an earlier one Ah, just listened to that one. It's Episode 38: Elevator to heaven
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Eichenwald has some weird poo poo in his past journalism career. https://twitter.com/sebastianojones/status/809514313878794240 https://twitter.com/sebastianojones/status/809514599640956928 https://twitter.com/sebastianojones/status/809514945708756992 https://twitter.com/sebastianojones/status/809515918200016896 https://twitter.com/sebastianojones/status/809516420996403200
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lol I posted about that in USPol a couple months ago and
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GalacticAcid posted:lol I posted about that in USPol a couple months ago and I think I might be done with D&D for good now because I can only remember how in the election season whenever anyone brought up the Democratic Party's disconnect to the WWC numerous smug assholes would always come up with "  According to the math Democrats will never need white blue collar voters again".
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 I dunno if you can be jailed for assault by gif at least it's an alt-right gently caress who ends up in prison (I mean if this is even true). That would exactly be the gang's "Alt-righter meets actual Aryan Brotherhood members in prison' scenario
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https://twitter.com/rogerbellin/status/809622342175338496 also, pretty hosed that of all people an alt right shithead wouldn't have an actual ANIME gif to cause people to seizure. e:  https://twitter.com/neverputout/status/809631621167140864 Sushi in Yiddish fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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first adam curtis talks about the work of william gibson, and now kurt eichenwald gets flatlined by data he can't handle chapo boys at it again I see
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