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Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

i live right down the street from the huge REI that just opened in NoMa

it's me. i am the gentrifier

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1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

i want to move there

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

lbj was the ideas man. we wouldn't be on the moon without kennedy tho? like, good team effort.

lbj was a way better prez tho lol.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

an open, benevolent, community board that weighs the needs of the citizenry against the desires of real-estate developers.

:laffo:

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

zeal posted:

i want to move there

i dont like warm places, but it has tons of cool stuff to do and great food and you can sit outside at night in a t shirt and its the comfiest thing

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014
I grew up down the street from REIs headquarters.

Never went inside one until Thanksgiving 2016 though.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

anime was right posted:

lbj was the ideas man. we wouldn't be on the moon without kennedy tho? like, good team effort.

lbj was a way better prez tho lol.

Kennedy was the ideas man, LBJ got poo poo done. Its a real shame LBJ was such crap at foreign policy or he would be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.

But he was *real* bad at foreign policy.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

anime was right posted:

i dont like warm places, but it has tons of cool stuff to do and great food and you can sit outside at night in a t shirt and its the comfiest thing

are there jobs there tho

i'm not a computer janitor

Chwoka
Jan 27, 2008

I'm Abed, and I never watch TV.

Not a Step posted:

Kennedy was the ideas man, LBJ got poo poo done. Its a real shame LBJ was such crap at foreign policy or he would be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.

But he was *real* bad at foreign policy.

doesn't the moon count as foreign

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


who was the last good president

or have they all been poo poo

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

i sometimes imagine a world where rfk didn't get shot and then i get real sad

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

UHD posted:

who was the last good president

or have they all been poo poo

fdr

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

UHD posted:

who was the last good president

or have they all been poo poo

There are none who did not have some limitation or failure in office, unless we want to start making jokes about W.H. Harrison and Garfield.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

tho he probably would have a 1960s obama

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Captain_Maclaine posted:

There are none who did not have some limitation or failure in office, unless we want to start making jokes about W.H. Harrison and Garfield.

In four short years he met his every goal
He seized the whole Southwest from Mexico
Made sure the tariffs fell
And made the English sell
The Oregon Territory
He built an independent Treasury
Having done all this, he sought no second term

But precious few will mourning the passing of
Mr James K Polk, our eleventh President
Young Hickory, Napoleon of the stump
:911:

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

loquacius posted:

In four short years he met his every goal
He seized the whole Southwest from Mexico
Made sure the tariffs fell
And made the English sell
The Oregon Territory
He built an independent Treasury
Having done all this, he sought no second term

But precious few will mourning the passing of
Mr James K Polk, our eleventh President
Young Hickory, Napoleon of the stump
:911:

A friend of mine from grad school is obsessed with Polk. Like, "dedicating the dissertation I'll never finish to him" levels obsessed. She claims one of the best gifts she ever got was "Provisions and Politics: Recipes Honoring First Lady Sarah Childress Polk." Even by historian standards, it's a little weird.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Not a Step posted:

Kennedy was the ideas man, LBJ got poo poo done. Its a real shame LBJ was such crap at foreign policy or he would be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.

But he was *real* bad at foreign policy.

Tbf, if he had run again and won in '68 we probably would have been out of Vietnam faster than we were.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

UHD posted:

who was the last good president

or have they all been poo poo

Horrible human being or lovely president are the norm. Usually both. Did you read the "elections throughout history" thread we had here in CSPAM back in the day? I would highly recommend it!

There's like probably 3 or 4 at most a person would think are actually good, and which 3 or 4 probably changes depending on the person. And even the good ones were pretty terrible.

GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 20:45 on Dec 15, 2016

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

I like how that aspect is the most unbelievable part. lol people ruin everything.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
the moment you remove iowa from the "first primaries" list is the same time that whatever party promises to restore iowa to its first place position wins the state

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
yeah all iowa has is corn and the first primary

like that's the whole state

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

logikv9 posted:

the moment you remove iowa from the "first primaries" list is the same time that whatever party promises to restore iowa to its first place position wins the state

the first four primaries are pretty good and reflective of general demographics.

its the chunks right after that come in waves that could use a little tweaking.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Iowa's main function as a state is to basically be a job fair for presidential candidates

e: http://www.theonion.com/article/retreating-clinton-campaign-torches-iowa-town-slow-52261
http://www.theonion.com/article/clinton-ominously-tells-iowan-supporters-mark-fron-52265

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

anime was right posted:

the first four primaries are pretty good and reflective of general demographics.

its the chunks right after that come in waves that could use a little tweaking.

Corn, Cranks, Casinos, and Carolina

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

paranoid randroid posted:

Corn, Cranks, Casinos, and Carolina

america

mugrim
Mar 2, 2007

The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.

UHD posted:

who was the last good president

or have they all been poo poo

Carter

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRUc11fPAwk

Speaking of Iowa, anyone remember Iowa Trump?

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i wouldn't mind a complete randomization of the primary states done a year in advance or so. and probably iowa and NH can remain in their stupid little first place positions

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

logikv9 posted:

i wouldn't mind a complete randomization of the primary states done a year in advance or so. and probably iowa and NH can remain in their stupid little first place positions

Ok, but in exchange they all have to be caucuses.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Have the primaries in alphabetical order.

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Perez threw his hat in the ring. 12 state endorsements to Ellison's 15. I'm extremely biased, but this doesn't seem the best response to this question IMO.

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/809488198745419780

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Not a Step posted:

Ok, but in exchange they all have to be caucuses.

caucuses are ultra-gross and should be killed

unless you do that caucus/primary hybrid where you can still go and vote whenever you want (and also leave right after) but also has an event afterwards for a large party meeting

Serf
May 5, 2011


caucuses should be kept because it's a funny word

also go home tom perez

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Ace of Baes posted:

Have the primaries in alphabetical order.

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming

iowa passes new legislation renaming it Aaiowa

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
no one region/demo should dominate the early map (ie, no washington + montana + oregon + colorado as the second wave of states), and the biggest states should come as late as possible (like texas, cali, ny, and florida). this gives candidates with good ideas but little fundraising the chance to make it out. this should apply to both primaries. get rid of caucuses, allow anyone to switch registration (but not right back) and keep primaries closed. it doesn't have to be perfect, but something close to that i think would achieve what all parties would want. if you play spoiler, you can't pick your own candidate, and primary voting should be done by mail. nobody candidates get a better shake to make their ideas count, no one gets firewalled, and people with crossover appeal to other demos that might win a general election get influence, but the party gets to keep them for a bit and it minimizes spoiler votes.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Aurubin posted:

Perez threw his hat in the ring. 12 state endorsements to Ellison's 15. I'm extremely biased, but this doesn't seem the best response to this question IMO.

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/809488198745419780

lmao

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Here's his website.

https://www.tomperez.org/

I wonder if they had a Squarespace promo code.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

logikv9 posted:

caucuses are ultra-gross and should be killed

unless you do that caucus/primary hybrid where you can still go and vote whenever you want (and also leave right after) but also has an event afterwards for a large party meeting

I like that caucuses are paid for by the party holding them, unlike primaries which are state funded. Not that the structure of caucuses aren't a bit byzantine for those who just want to show up and vote.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I like that caucuses are paid for by the party holding them, unlike primaries which are state funded. Not that the structure of caucuses aren't a bit byzantine for those who just want to show up and vote.

caucuses are hilarious

also, they favor high energy candidates, which is probably good, but ehh.

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Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012
caucus enormous

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