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NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

anime was right posted:

im a left socialiberalist

I think the government not working to improve the lives of every person on earth (with of course a focus on its own citizens) is the result of moral failure.

I'm whatever that makes me.

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# ? May 25, 2024 02:35

Serf: May 5, 2011

Al! posted:

self-described progressives should really focus on making encounters with them less unpleasent

Keith Ellison seems like a pretty pleasant person to me idk

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:45

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Serf posted:

Keith Ellison seems like a pretty pleasant person to me idk

Yeah but Clinton tho.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:45

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

NumberLast posted:

I think the government not working to improve the lives of every person on earth (with of course a focus on its own citizens) is the result of moral failure.

I'm whatever that makes me.

i think that this is literally impossible under hierarchical power structures and what governments and pseudo-governments describe as parasitism, inefficiency and waste is better described as human happiness

so im whatever this makes me

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:47

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

NumberLast posted:

Yeah but Clinton tho.

the best part was when idpol capitalists adopted the term "progressive" and inverted the meaning for economic concerns

the elites love mangling language and chomsky is always right but nobody listens to him because everyone only thinks in 0.5 second bursts

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:48

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Al! posted:

i think that this is literally impossible under hierarchical power structures and what governments and pseudo-governments describe as parasitism, inefficiency and waste is better described as human happiness

so im whatever this makes me

It's... Impossible to try to do something?

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:48

Serf: May 5, 2011

NumberLast posted:

Yeah but Clinton tho.

I wouldn't describe Clinton as a progressive.

gently caress we really do need a common set of words lol

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:48

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Serf posted:

I wouldn't describe Clinton as a progressive.

gently caress we really do need a common set of words lol

_{civil rights socialist} :ssh:

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:49

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

i'm an energy voter

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:49

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Serf posted:

I wouldn't describe Clinton as a progressive.

gently caress we really do need a common set of words lol

I believe "self-described" was in there.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:49

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

NumberLast posted:

It's... Impossible to try to do something?

not with the current people in power no

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:50

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

we could try killing them all, but then a new ruling class would probably develop faster than you can say "as long as I get my rations, the kulaks can get hosed"

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:51

Serf: May 5, 2011

NumberLast posted:

I believe "self-described" was in there.

my bad

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:51

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Al! posted:

not with the current people in power no

Well, yeah. So we should try to change who the people in power are. Which you said is impossible?...

Friend, I'm really confused what your position is.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:54

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

The condemnation of "liberals" is hardly new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:54

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Al! posted:

we could try killing them all, but then a new ruling class would probably develop faster than you can say "as long as I get my rations, the kulaks can get hosed"

Oh.

"Everything is hopeless." Gotcha. :v:

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:55

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

Serf posted:

I wouldn't describe Clinton as a progressive.

gently caress we really do need a common set of words lol

Call your politics Patriot politics, use the gently caress out of American iconography. Fly flags instead of burning them, give Muslims star spangled head wraps, wave don't tread on me flags at rallies confuse gently caress out of everyone while you shout about eating the rich and implementing UHC.

Not even joking, red hammer and sickle flags are for dipshit college freshman, seize the definition of american and use it how you see fit.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:55

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

NumberLast posted:

Oh.

"Everything is hopeless." Gotcha.

yeah, i get it, you're a statist. whatever man

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:56

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Agean90 posted:

Call your politics Patriot politics, use the gently caress out of American iconography. Fly flags instead of burning them, give Muslims star spangled head wraps, wave don't tread on me flags at rallies confuse gently caress out of everyone while you shout about eating the rich and implementing UHC.

Not even joking, red hammer and sickle flags are for dipshit college freshman, seize the definition of american and use it how you see fit.

Uh...

, in principle!

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:56

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Al! posted:

we could try killing them all, but then a new ruling class would probably develop faster than you can say "as long as I get my rations, the kulaks can get hosed"

i, too, would rather wait for death instead of do basic things like "participate in governmental politics" to keep our democracy from stagnating any further into an oligarchy

Agean90 posted:

Call your politics Patriot politics, use the gently caress out of American iconography. Fly flags instead of burning them, give Muslims star spangled head wraps, wave don't tread on me flags at rallies confuse gently caress out of everyone while you shout about eating the rich and implementing UHC.

Not even joking, red hammer and sickle flags are for dipshit college freshman, seize the definition of american and use it how you see fit.

i might start a project of doing just this next year, unironically

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:56

Serf: May 5, 2011

Agean90 posted:

Call your politics Patriot politics, use the gently caress out of American iconography. Fly flags instead of burning them, give Muslims star spangled head wraps, wave don't tread on me flags at rallies confuse gently caress out of everyone while you shout about eating the rich and implementing UHC.

Not even joking, red hammer and sickle flags are for dipshit college freshman, seize the definition of american and use it how you see fit.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:57

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Al! posted:

yeah, i get it, you're a statist. whatever man

No...No, I'm not. The state is a tool, not an end.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:58

SHY NUDIST GRRL: Feb 15, 2011; Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

i might start a project of doing just this next year, unironically

Also work in how socialism is extremely Christian

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:58

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Also work in how socialism is extremely Christian

it's already pretty loving catholic and i know a lot of socialist catholics :getin:

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Peel: Dec 3, 2007

In Australia the 'Liberal Party' are the main conservative party.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:59

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Agean90 posted:

Call your politics Patriot politics, use the gently caress out of American iconography. Fly flags instead of burning them, give Muslims star spangled head wraps, wave don't tread on me flags at rallies confuse gently caress out of everyone while you shout about eating the rich and implementing UHC.

Not even joking, red hammer and sickle flags are for dipshit college freshman, seize the definition of american and use it how you see fit.

Are you aware the Patriot Party was literally a socialist organization? I wasn't until this post made me look it up.

"The Patriot Party was an American socialist organization of the late 1960s and early 1970s that organized poor, rural whites in the Appalachian South and Pacific Northwest. "

Close allies of the Black Panthers.

Destroyed by the FBI as part of COINTELPRO

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:59

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

NumberLast posted:

No...No, I'm not. The state is a tool, not an end.

Like, if your goal is to "elect good people" then be done with politics you've already failed.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 18:59

SHY NUDIST GRRL: Feb 15, 2011; Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

NumberLast posted:

No...No, I'm not. The state is a tool, not an end.

Nah man. It's like civ. The state coalesces into a cloud consciousness and harasses Raiden

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:00

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

GlyphGryph posted:

Are you aware the Patriot Party is literally a socialist organization? I wasn't until this post made me look it up.

"The Patriot Party was an American socialist organization of the late 1960s and early 1970s that organized poor, rural whites in the Appalachian South and Pacific Northwest. "

Cant say i was, and that is pretty much what the Democrat party should do in one sentence.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:00

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Like, look at this poo poo.

quote:

The Patriot Party was an American socialist organization of the late 1960s and early 1970s that organized poor, rural whites in the Appalachian South and Pacific Northwest. The party was formed after a split with the Young Patriots Organization. The YPO's membership was drawn from street gangs of Appalachian whites in the Uptown neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois; it became politicized after working with the Young Lords, an ethnic Puerto Rican gang; and the African-American Black Panther Party.

The Patriot Party was a member of the original Rainbow Coalition, formed by Fred Hampton of the Black Panther Party and others to create a broad-based, multi-racial political coalition. It formed after the United Front Against Fascism conference held in Oakland, California in 1969. The coalition included the Young Lords, the Brown Berets and I Wor Kuen. Hampton's intention was to have multi-ethnic gangs working together to accomplish peaceful solutions, rather than battling each other.

The Patriot Party borrowed strategies of community organizing from the Black Panthers, with whom they were especially close. For instance, they established a Free Breakfast for Children program. The Eugene, Oregon chapter, location of the University of Oregon, garnered much community support with their "Free Lumber" program. At this time in the Northwest, some poor people still relied on wood-stoves for cooking and heating, and cheap wood was hard to come by.

In 1970 the FBI arrested the entire central committee of the Patriot Party[who?] and charged them with various felonies. They later dropped the charges but, by the mid-1970s, the FBI's COINTELPRO program had effectively suppressed the organization.

In 1982 the civil rights activist Jesse Jackson adopted the name of "Rainbow Coalition" for organizing multi-ethnic groups to support and vote for liberal (generally Democratic) candidates for public office, in order to strengthen minority voices by acting in collaboration.

This is what happened to the loving Left in this country - they were intentionally killed, imprisoned, infiltrated and destroyed.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:00

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Agean90 posted:

Cant say i was, and that is pretty much what the Democrat party should do in one sentence.

Read my edit, they were intentionally targeted and destroyed by the FBI, and lol if you don't think it would happen again.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:01

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

GlyphGryph posted:

Destroyed by the FBI as part of COINTELPRO

while in the same breath arming the KKK because j. edgar hoover was an unabashed hitler fan

and people wonder why black people and european jews are so wary of the american government

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:01

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Like I am so loving pissed right now reading that poo poo. So loving pissed.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:02

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

GlyphGryph posted:

Read my edit, they were intentionally targeted and destroyed by the FBI, and lol if you don't think it would happen again.

hijack the DNC, see how hard the fbi can swing

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:02

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

GlyphGryph posted:

Like I am so loving pissed right now reading that poo poo. So loving pissed.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:03

comingafteryouall: Aug 2, 2011

GlyphGryph posted:

Are you aware the Patriot Party was literally a socialist organization? I wasn't until this post made me look it up.

"The Patriot Party was an American socialist organization of the late 1960s and early 1970s that organized poor, rural whites in the Appalachian South and Pacific Northwest. "

Close allies of the Black Panthers.

Destroyed by the FBI as part of COINTELPRO

sorry all use of Patriots is now reserved for the Nostradamus of our times, Hideo Kojima.

unless you're talking about creating a sentient AI group that enacts Socialism then OK.

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:03

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Why have socialists never been elected into power? /Smug

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:03

Serf: May 5, 2011

GlyphGryph posted:

Like, look at this poo poo.

This is what happened to the loving Left in this country - they were intentionally killed, imprisoned, infiltrated and destroyed.

jfc, we murdered Fred Hampton, who by all accounts was on track to be something special. killed him dead in a blatant assassination, loving poo poo

also I'm getting tired of American iconography being associated with right-wing politics. we can and should be working to take it back

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:03

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Is there anyone from that organization still alive?

Because hell yes we need to rebuild it.

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Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

so about obama putting up a right wing j. edgar hoover idolater into the director's chair of the FBI...

# ? Dec 16, 2016 19:04

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